Letters to the Editor - Editorials

Letters to the Editor - Editorials

There are 136 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Feb 6, 2009, titled Letters to the Editor - Editorials. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

The incident at Koko Head illustrates the need for our legislators and governor to pass Senate Bill 327, related to concealed carry.

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dargent77

Smithville, TN

#1 Feb 6, 2009
Yeah, let's all carry concealed weapons.
To church, restaurants, bars, beaches, laundromats, schools. Arm teachers and priests and waiters. Lifeguards too. What an imbicilic letter.
willie

Plymouth, MI

#2 Feb 6, 2009
"'Flyover' will destroy beautiful views forever"

And an elevated train (20 miles worth) won't?
Lord HawHaw

Dublin, Ireland

#3 Feb 6, 2009
Yep, these flyovers are blighting Hawai'i, oh to have seen it as the ancestors once saw it, when people belonged to the 'aina and the 'aina did not belong to people. Now it is all kala instead of the traditional kalo, this brings out the worst parts of the human psyche, envy, materialism, competition, and greed. If this state of affairs continues unabated malihini will on those said aircraft themselves "flyover" Hawai'i without stopping. Let us keep Hawai'i green and not place it all under tarmac, for the keiki of the future to enjoy, as the ancestors showed by the great legacy they displayed in malama ka 'aina.-Aloha.
Bob

AOL

#4 Feb 6, 2009
more accurate to call ODAMA a leftist with a socialist agenda. He will ruin our country if allowed to
Old Time Justice

Honolulu, HI

#5 Feb 6, 2009
dargent77 wrote:
Yeah, let's all carry concealed weapons.
To church, restaurants, bars, beaches, laundromats, schools. Arm teachers and priests and waiters. Lifeguards too. What an imbicilic letter.
Dargent, you're very quick with sarcasm and name calling but you do not offer any alternatives for self defense. Obviously, you haven't noticed the rising crime rate with home invasions, robberies and assaults. Concealed carry states have not seen a rise in the crime rate and in most cases, the crime rate has actually fallen. They do not have gunfights in the streets with people legally carrying firearms as those who oppose concealeed carry like to allude to. So, what is your solution for regular citizens to defend themselves against crime?
informed

Sierra Vista, AZ

#6 Feb 6, 2009
Old Time Justice wrote:
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Dargent, you're very quick with sarcasm and name calling but you do not offer any alternatives for self defense. Obviously, you haven't noticed the rising crime rate with home invasions, robberies and assaults. Concealed carry states have not seen a rise in the crime rate and in most cases, the crime rate has actually fallen. They do not have gunfights in the streets with people legally carrying firearms as those who oppose concealeed carry like to allude to. So, what is your solution for regular citizens to defend themselves against crime?
Exactly!! Until these people have been a victim of a crime (let's hope not) they may never change their mind. When I was a victim of a crime, I am THANKFUL I had my gun to protect me if needed...fortunately the home invaders never found me in the closet or they would have met my new best friend. I also am going to get my CC here in AZ. If criminals have an inkling as to you might be carrying, they may think twice and if they are still that stupid, well, that is THEIR fault NOT the one defending themself!
The American Way

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#7 Feb 6, 2009
I have had death threats made to me. I often have to go into dangerous places and interact with dangerous people.

And even though I'm an officer in the military with more government and civilian training in the proper use of firearms than 90% of police officers, I cannot carry my firearem for protection.

If cops, who are rarely the victims of violent crimes, need them, then why don't I?
dargent77

Smithville, TN

#8 Feb 6, 2009
My God people...more guns? That's the best your salt water craniums can come up with?
So, let's say you shoot a perp...he/she has family.
THEY will come after you. And how about the court system? You may get off, or found guilty. Costing thousands in lawyer fees and then mark the X in the "Felony" box. How about "guilt"? You just capped a punk, but orphaned his kids. I'd say think, but that is a stretch for the NRA. Go, go arm yourselves. Kill all the aggressive behavior.
Wonder why America is the most violent country on Earth...and in Hawai'i?
Suzanne

Honolulu, HI

#9 Feb 6, 2009
informed wrote:
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Exactly!! Until these people have been a victim of a crime (let's hope not) they may never change their mind. When I was a victim of a crime, I am THANKFUL I had my gun to protect me if needed...fortunately the home invaders never found me in the closet or they would have met my new best friend. I also am going to get my CC here in AZ. If criminals have an inkling as to you might be carrying, they may think twice and if they are still that stupid, well, that is THEIR fault NOT the one defending themself!
FYI:
About 15 or 20 years ago there was a study that showed that when criminals encountered a potential victim with a gun, in most cases the criminal was able to disarm the victim and use the weapon against the victim. Unless you are a crack shot AND a martial arts expert, you run the risk of providing the criminal with a weapon he might not have had which he can kill you with. Guns frequently offer a false sense of security.

By the way, I was the victim of crime not once, but twice, and I still do not have a weapon in my house or carry one on my person. However, I regularly stand up to (potential) criminals who are abusing their wives and children on the street. I have found they are basically cowards at heart who back down when they are publicly embarrassed by a petite, 60ish woman. And you? Have you ever deliberately confronted someone in the process of committing a crime without your gun in hand?
Pau

Phoenix, AZ

#10 Feb 6, 2009
dargent77 wrote:
My God people...more guns? That's the best your salt water craniums can come up with?
So, let's say you shoot a perp...he/she has family.
THEY will come after you. And how about the court system? You may get off, or found guilty. Costing thousands in lawyer fees and then mark the X in the "Felony" box. How about "guilt"? You just capped a ****, but orphaned his kids. I'd say think, but that is a stretch for the NRA. Go, go arm yourselves. Kill all the aggressive behavior.
Wonder why America is the most violent country on Earth...and in Hawai'i?
Why should the sentimental value of a "Perps" family have ANY significance? If they commit the crime then they have what's coming to them. End of discussion.
manini

Kapaau, HI

#11 Feb 6, 2009
David Fisher must be another of those benefiting from Act 221. Only those that are benefiting have anything nice to say about it. To the rest of the population it is a tax shelter for the wealthy which leaves a bigger tax bill for the rest of us. And please don't lecture me about working hard to be wealthy.
willie

Plymouth, MI

#12 Feb 6, 2009
Suzanne wrote:
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FYI:
About 15 or 20 years ago there was a study that showed that when criminals encountered a potential victim with a gun, in most cases the criminal was able to disarm the victim and use the weapon against the victim. Unless you are a crack shot AND a martial arts expert, you run the risk of providing the criminal with a weapon he might not have had which he can kill you with. Guns frequently offer a false sense of security.
By the way, I was the victim of crime not once, but twice, and I still do not have a weapon in my house or carry one on my person. However, I regularly stand up to (potential) criminals who are abusing their wives and children on the street. I have found they are basically cowards at heart who back down when they are publicly embarrassed by a petite, 60ish woman. And you? Have you ever deliberately confronted someone in the process of committing a crime without your gun in hand?
About 15 years ago two different towns enacted two different laws. One passed a law banning guns within the city limits. One passed a law saying everyone within the city limits had to own a gun.

Take a really wild guess as to which town had their crime rate shoot through the roof and which had it drop like a stone.

I will give you two chances in case you get it wrong the first time.

Just because you don't want to carry a gun does not mean you have the right to tell others they can't either.
mark

United States

#13 Feb 6, 2009
dargent77 wrote:
My God people...more guns? That's the best your salt water craniums can come up with?
So, let's say you shoot a perp...he/she has family.
THEY will come after you. And how about the court system? You may get off, or found guilty. Costing thousands in lawyer fees and then mark the X in the "Felony" box. How about "guilt"? You just capped a ****, but orphaned his kids. I'd say think, but that is a stretch for the NRA. Go, go arm yourselves. Kill all the aggressive behavior.
Wonder why America is the most violent country on Earth...and in Hawai'i?
...and your ideas for how to balance public safety with rising violent crime would be what?

Since: Feb 08

Santa Maria, CA

#14 Feb 6, 2009
dargent77 wrote:
Yeah, let's all carry concealed weapons.
To church, restaurants, bars, beaches, laundromats, schools. Arm teachers and priests and waiters. Lifeguards too. What an imbicilic letter.
What a great idea! We should all arm ourselves! I would except that I live in California which has almost the same stupid anti-gun laws that Hawaii has! I would have already ditched California except for the wife not wanting to leave her grandchildren. I am working on that by the way! It is stupid laws like that that make criminals of normally law abiding citizens who only want the ability to protect themselves from those same criminals who have no problem breaking the law and harming other people. Talk about imbeciles! What an idiot! Don't ask the police to protect you either! They will only be there to make out the report and call the coroner! I have no patience with stupidity!
Disgusted

Wahiawa, HI

#15 Feb 6, 2009
How many people are killed by owners of registered guns? How effective are the police and courts in protecting us from criminals? Why is it wrong to shoot someone who breaks into your home or threatens your life? How many criminals purchase weapons from an authorized dealer, submit to a background check and register their weapons with the police? Is self defense no longer a right?
wendell

United States

#16 Feb 6, 2009
willie wrote:
<quoted text>
About 15 years ago two different towns enacted two different laws. One passed a law banning guns within the city limits. One passed a law saying everyone within the city limits had to own a gun.
Take a really wild guess as to which town had their crime rate shoot through the roof and which had it drop like a stone.
I will give you two chances in case you get it wrong the first time.
Just because you don't want to carry a gun does not mean you have the right to tell others they can't either.
Was the one banning guns called Washington, D.C.?
Done

Pahoa, HI

#17 Feb 6, 2009
Bob wrote:
more accurate to call ODAMA a leftist with a socialist agenda. He will ruin our country if allowed to
Don't worry about our country ruining our country--Bush has already done that!
wendell

United States

#18 Feb 6, 2009
ExWaianae wrote:
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What a great idea! We should all arm ourselves! I would except that I live in California which has almost the same stupid anti-gun laws that Hawaii has! I would have already ditched California except for the wife not wanting to leave her grandchildren. I am working on that by the way! It is stupid laws like that that make criminals of normally law abiding citizens who only want the ability to protect themselves from those same criminals who have no problem breaking the law and harming other people. Talk about imbeciles! What an idiot! Don't ask the police to protect you either! They will only be there to make out the report and call the coroner! I have no patience with stupidity!
I heard Oregon's gun laws are pretty liberal. You need only to take a few courses and you can get a concealed carry permit.

And the state is a beautiful place to live...not to mention 20% lower COL than California.
The American Way

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#19 Feb 6, 2009
Suzanne wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI:
About 15 or 20 years ago there was a study that showed that when criminals encountered a potential victim with a gun, in most cases the criminal was able to disarm the victim and use the weapon against the victim. Unless you are a crack shot AND a martial arts expert, you run the risk of providing the criminal with a weapon he might not have had which he can kill you with. Guns frequently offer a false sense of security.
I looked for this and couldn't find it anywhere, but I would be very interested in seeing it. Source?
BTW, I have confronted criminals without a gun because that's the right thing to do. Still, I would prefer to do it with a gun, especially when my wife and children are nearby and the criminal is not alone.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#20 Feb 6, 2009
Bob wrote:
more accurate to call ODAMA a leftist with a socialist agenda. He will ruin our country if allowed to
I guess you feel we're really prosperous now?

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