Letters

There are 18 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from May 22, 2008, titled Letters. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

I have heard from people who have been in prison that prison life is more relaxing than outside of prison.

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Bongo Fury

San Antonio, TX

#3 May 22, 2008
StopStopRailNow
kitty

Kapolei, HI

#4 May 22, 2008
do what instead?
Carole

Wadsworth, NV

#5 May 22, 2008
Kalli wrote:
stoprailnow.com
Seems the Muffinman has money earmarked for his cronies on his train to nowhere project.... but the CITY has to BEG for lei donations to honor men and women who gave their lives for this country?(Those politicos should be ashamed!)

Maybe somebody should start a 'Lei Union' and get in on the corruption there in Hawaii..
Great socialist state

Honolulu, HI

#6 May 22, 2008
Stop VOG now.
Kailuaresident

Kaneohe, HI

#7 May 22, 2008
Paaul M - What would you have the governemnt not do? Get spcific. I suspect you simply think there is a way to make money if the government would only get out of the way.
And Frank is wrong - steel on steel was recomemded by the expert panel and becomes the deafult choice if the Council doesnt act otherwise. Its steel or nothing at this point.
Frugal Reformist

Honolulu, HI

#8 May 22, 2008
For decades the state and local governments and their leaders have spent and will continue to spend our tax money on everything to keep the status quo mentality in place. They never learned nor lived the concept of saving during the boom years. Well it's better late than never..so get use to living frugally during the lean years ahead.
Alan

Honolulu, HI

#9 May 22, 2008
STOPRAILNOW.COM

Before back control from King ( Dictator ) Muffi

Before it is to late
Pablo

Wahiawa, HI

#10 May 22, 2008
Imagine roads without potholes.
New prison where killers are incarcearated instead of being paroled to kill "Good Samaratins".
Children beiing sent to clean well run private/charter schools that a handful of DOE employees send out voucher check to support.
Limited government is what the Constitition is all about but we seem to have lost our way.
Pulog

Huntley, IL

#11 May 22, 2008
Kailuaresident wrote:
Frank is wrong - steel on steel was recomemded by the expert panel and becomes the deafult choice if the Council doesnt act otherwise. Its steel or nothing at this point.
What expert panel? Five of the six so-called panel of experts were equivalent to only one in both experience and expertise - steel on steel. There were tantamount to only 2 instead of six members in the panel. The five were birds of the same feather and all bureaucrats. There was no architect nor any specialist in urban and development planning in that panel capable of independent, innovative and original thinking. What is now going on in regards to rail transit in Oahu is just the ineptness of politicians and bureaucrats in the city government.
Busted

Honolulu, HI

#12 May 22, 2008
Kailuaresident wrote:
Paaul M - What would you have the governemnt not do? Get spcific. I suspect you simply think there is a way to make money if the government would only get out of the way.
And Frank is wrong - steel on steel was recomemded by the expert panel and becomes the deafult choice if the Council doesnt act otherwise. Its steel or nothing at this point.
Frank is right!
The city council did not approve or select steel rail yet.
The last transit votes at the hale were all a 4-4 tie,
except two recent bills that passed 5-4 when Marshall returned.(maglev & rubbertire)

The bills are pending, needing a full vote by all 9 on council.
The RFP process 90 clock started by mufi is wrong.

The transit panels recomendation was just that. Council still reserves its right to decide technology (bills are pending)
The panel recomends, the council decides. No tie vote by council reached a final steel rail only approval.

THEN after council decides, mufi can issue the RFP for bids.

Mufi broke the law if he did not read the language of the bill and forced out an RFP for bids to start before a technology choice decession was made by our city council.
They have the right to decide, mufi does not.
Kailuaresident, do you work for mufis PR hacks to spread pro-rail propaganda? You should stop and get true facts.


Kahala Girl

Houston, TX

#13 May 22, 2008
Busted wrote:
<quoted text>
Frank is right!
The city council did not approve or select steel rail yet.
The last transit votes at the hale were all a 4-4 tie,
except two recent bills that passed 5-4 when Marshall returned.(maglev & rubbertire)
The bills are pending, needing a full vote by all 9 on council.
The RFP process 90 clock started by mufi is wrong.
The transit panels recomendation was just that. Council still reserves its right to decide technology (bills are pending)
The panel recomends, the council decides. No tie vote by council reached a final steel rail only approval.
THEN after council decides, mufi can issue the RFP for bids.
Mufi broke the law if he did not read the language of the bill and forced out an RFP for bids to start before a technology choice decession was made by our city council.
They have the right to decide, mufi does not.
Kailuaresident, do you work for mufis PR hacks to spread pro-rail propaganda? You should stop and get true facts.
You guys better take over MUFi's office he is such a loser, paying back his boys with YOUR MONEY!
Stuart Mori

Roseville, CA

#14 May 22, 2008
For once and for all, mag-lev is not a proven technology. There is no operational mag-lev train system in the world today. Yes, there are experimental systems in Europe and Japan, but the technology is not yet viable. Frank, wake up, there are no mag-lev system suppliers for your dream train.
Thank you guys

Ewa Beach, HI

#15 May 23, 2008
Re: Prisoners should pay their own way.

"YOU HIT THE ISSUE RIGHT ON THE HEAD MS. FORD !!!
Those very people (mostly repeat offenders,) who have been in prison agree prison life is more relaxing than outside of prison and will do anything to go back. Your right something is wrong they have more rights then you and I for one bring locked up.

They cry over the food, bedding, conditons, well if they never do the crime they would not be in there to begine don't care about saving money, they're paid in subsidies to provide locking them up, so why save when the money is *Free*(per-say). The State makes money on those in lock down, why stop a good thing; That's the mentaility of the situation -(GREEDY GOVERMENT).

I strongly agree that each should have responsibilities, they're in OCCC. We should have those criminals pay their own way by cleaning public bathrooms, freeways, parks. Many State Tax Paying Citizens would rather see criminals giving back to society than doing nothing except taking from it.

We as many other States need tougher laws, but Hawaii is so relaxed in giving and serving time it's amost a holiday for these men and woman and while in they cost more then it's honestly worth - Who did the crime? If they had a bootcamp agenda up at dawn and worked till sunset 7 days a week maybe these offenders would think twice about wanting to return to thier cozy cell away from home, it's like grown men acting like young tough boys yet thier adults forgetting it's time to grow up.

Let them rack the parks, clean the streets, roadways, build housing for the homeless,(D) ALL THE ABOVE, and pay for the use of their water and lights by doing so.

I see no harm in hard labor for what Hawaii's criminals are getting slapped on the okole for, they should be doing this and more, returning to a hot meal and shower so tired they knock out yet before they can close thier eyes the lights are back on and time to go to work fella's.

Work them to the point they beg for early release and come back reformed and willing to give back to society not steal, kill, and disrupt our beautiful State as we have allowed them to do for far too long.
Alan Cummings

Ewa Beach, HI

#16 May 23, 2008
Alan Cummings wrote:
Ms. Ford,
Are you and Francis Ibara serious?!! Can you actually think that anyone of sound mind would want to stay in a tiny room for half of his or her life and take the chance of getting killed for saying the wrong thing to the wrong person? Prison would be the last place a sane person would want to be. What could possibly be relaxing about having every second of your life regimented and being watched 24/7? Sorry, if I want to go someplace relaxing, it surely won't be the state pen.
You sir are really a pain in the Okole to read daily with your self absorbed opinions. Here's a thought to ponder,(Write too your own local paper and share your stupidity,) Ms. Ford is correct, but you would not know this as you live in the boonies in Washington State, Not Hawaii !!!

You seem to have an answer for everything and yet pay your taxes to Washington State, Not Hawaii!!!

Please, bug the Seattle Post for a while or did they (BAN) you due to your excessive stupidity and lack of inteligents?
So true

Ewa Beach, HI

#17 May 23, 2008
Thank you guys wrote:
Re: Prisoners should pay their own way.
"YOU HIT THE ISSUE RIGHT ON THE HEAD MS. FORD !!!
Those very people (mostly repeat offenders,) who have been in prison agree prison life is more relaxing than outside of prison and will do anything to go back. Your right something is wrong they have more rights then you and I for one bring locked up.
They cry over the food, bedding, conditons, well if they never do the crime they would not be in there to begine don't care about saving money, they're paid in subsidies to provide locking them up, so why save when the money is *Free*(per-say). The State makes money on those in lock down, why stop a good thing; That's the mentaility of the situation -(GREEDY GOVERMENT).
I strongly agree that each should have responsibilities, they're in OCCC. We should have those criminals pay their own way by cleaning public bathrooms, freeways, parks. Many State Tax Paying Citizens would rather see criminals giving back to society than doing nothing except taking from it.
We as many other States need tougher laws, but Hawaii is so relaxed in giving and serving time it's amost a holiday for these men and woman and while in they cost more then it's honestly worth - Who did the crime? If they had a bootcamp agenda up at dawn and worked till sunset 7 days a week maybe these offenders would think twice about wanting to return to thier cozy cell away from home, it's like grown men acting like young tough boys yet thier adults forgetting it's time to grow up.
Let them rack the parks, clean the streets, roadways, build housing for the homeless,(D) ALL THE ABOVE, and pay for the use of their water and lights by doing so.
I see no harm in hard labor for what Hawaii's criminals are getting slapped on the okole for, they should be doing this and more, returning to a hot meal and shower so tired they knock out yet before they can close thier eyes the lights are back on and time to go to work fella's.
Work them to the point they beg for early release and come back reformed and willing to give back to society not steal, kill, and disrupt our beautiful State as we have allowed them to do for far too long.
Absoluly make them work to live in an AC filled cell eating three meals a day and no bills to pay other then for cigaretts. Get the lazy bums out of their cells in strips and chains and hand them each a mop or broom they know how to use it.

There is no FREE ride in life and should not be in a prison system either, Hawaii makes our locked up seem like a day at the beach compared to other state systems - it's time HAWAII make the changes to the laws and we start seeing chain gangs cleaning curb side.

Humiliate the stupid for doing the crime and maybe they wont return to thier AC filled nest so quickly. We all understand it's easier then working and the food must be good they all weigh 200+ pounds and lay around all day.

Make the bums pay for they're meals, lights and water to bath ... the tax payers do and were not locked up or did any crimes to be incarcerated.

Local mentality is so messed up - it's KOOL-LEE-OO'S to be in Prison, get inked and talk story of how bad the AC filled confinment is ... poor tings my Okole, send um out in the sun and work a day in thier lives ...
Port Angeles WA

Ewa Beach, HI

#18 May 23, 2008
Mr. Cummings,

Port Angeles Washington must be the pit of the earth for someone like you, spending day after day online *Ranting* in a Hawaiian news paper with your igorance and dull-wit; go pull some weeds or something at home, just stay off the internet and out of (Hawaiian COMMENTS) being told your a pain in the Okole is an understatement, your a real pain in the next and A**... write to your own local paper not one 2000 miles away.
Frank Genadio

Hilo, HI

#19 May 23, 2008
Stuart Mori wrote:
For once and for all, mag-lev is not a proven technology. There is no operational mag-lev train system in the world today. Yes, there are experimental systems in Europe and Japan, but the technology is not yet viable. Frank, wake up, there are no mag-lev system suppliers for your dream train.
I presume that it is OK for the original letter writer to respond to a blog. Mr. Mori: The city of Honolulu has received presentations and an intention to bid the HSST mag-lev system from Mitsubishi-Itochu. FYI, the HSST has been in revenue service for more than three years with a reliability record of 99 percent plus. The supplier is not asking for any special favors, just a chance to compete its mag-lev. If steel wheels systems are so great, why would the city be afraid to expand the competition? The eventual winners will be the taxpayers and commuters, who will get the best system at the best price.
cougar

Hilo, HI

#20 May 24, 2008
Frank Genadio wrote:
<quoted text>
I presume that it is OK for the original letter writer to respond to a blog. Mr. Mori: The city of Honolulu has received presentations and an intention to bid the HSST mag-lev system from Mitsubishi-Itochu. FYI, the HSST has been in revenue service for more than three years

with a reliability record of 99 percent plus. The supplier is not asking for any special favors, just a chance to compete its mag-lev. If steel wheels systems are so great, why would the city be afraid to expand the competition? The eventual winners will be the taxpayers and commuters, who will get the best system at the best price.
Frank is right!

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