Why Tea Partiers Should Despise Georg...

Why Tea Partiers Should Despise George W. Bush

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#1 Jan 6, 2011
A Little History Before the Kowtowing


The desirability of dictatorship

President Bush commented shortly before 9/11,“A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier; there’s no question about it.”
He used the same phrase to tout dictatorships as paragons of efficiency a month before taking office. He always seemed oblivious to why dictatorships drag nations to ruin.

Bush declared in 2002,“I’m the commander see, I don’t need to explain…. That’s the interesting thing about being president…. I don’t feel like I owe anybody an explanation.”
And his prerogative extended at least in his own mind to giving marching orders to hundreds of millions of Americans.

In an October 29, 2003, speech, he declared,“A president must set great goals worthy of a great nation. We’re a great nation. Therefore, a president must set big goals.”
But most Americans were not seeking someone to impose goals upon them.

More Americans recited the Pledge of Allegiance after Bush was elected but fewer Americans seemed concerned about government’s trampling their rights. More Americans had U.S. flag decals on their autos but fewer Americans supported the right of people to publicly oppose government policies.
At least after 9/11, more Americans revered the president but fewer Americans seemed to recall the Founding Fathers’ warnings about the corrupting nature of political power.

Perhaps Bush’s most important legacy is his embrace of torture.
In a June 2010 speech in Grand Rapids, Michigan, he declared,“Yeah, we water-boarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. I’d do it again to save lives.”
There is no independent evidence that Bush-era torture saved any American lives.
And I wonder just what those great goals for our nation was?
I personally have not seen any manifestation of such.

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#2 Jan 7, 2011

What is your opinion of the Patriot act? Good? Or bad?

Hackettstown, NJ

#3 Jan 7, 2011
Jeff Phillips wrote:
What is your opinion of the Patriot act? Good? Or bad?
I don't have a "good" or "bad" opinion about it, other than some aspects are open to debate....something that wasn't really afforded in passing it.

Basically my opinion about it is that of a typical overly paranoid state.

The Patriot Act is a rather large (bloated?) document covering many aspects of various things.

Do you have issues with anything in particular?

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#4 Jan 8, 2011
So you know Obama has made the Patriot Act Permanent.

I have a number of issues. The main thing is 41 CZARS making decisions that should be left up to Cabinet Secretaries and therefore bypassing Gongressional review. Bush had Czars too, and I also disliked him having them. The People (Congress) have the right to review Presidential appointments.

I have a great deal of trouble with the number of avowed Socialists, Marxists, Maoists and Communists in the Obama administration. These aren't my words, these are the very words of the Czars themselves. They are on record calling themselves these very things.

I have issues with Howard Dean saying the Constitution doesn't matter, we must have a single payer system. I have issues with Congressmen on record saying they ignore the Constitution when passing bills. On BOTH sides of the aisle!

I have issues with the President of the United States firing the Head of General Motors and installing his political donors in his place. Unprecedented in American history! I have issues with The US Government taking ownership of private corporations. The last time that was done was in Germany in the 30s.

I have a major issue with our Government (BOTH parties) going on a spending spree with money it doesn't have, and borrowing from China to finance it. We are paying China $5,000,000,000 (billion) a WEEK in interest payments. We are funding the Chinese Military!

Recently a Chinese submarine surfaced within one mile of a US Carrier fleet. It could have taken out a Carrier. And we didn't know it was there!
A month back there were news reports of a contrail off the coast of california. The Government explained it away as a vapor from an aircraft. But Jaynes said there were no aircraft in the area at that time. And the contrail had every marking of a missle launch from a submarine 30 miles off the coast of California. It headed west toward China. That submarine again?

All done with our money.

Now China has us by the short hairs and they are wanting some collateral. So although GM issued stock, the Government still owns 31% of the company and is negotiating with China to sell them the rest of the stock. China could be the biggest shareholder in General Motors!

I am a firm believer in a Balanced Budget Ammendment to the US Constitution. If it had been done in 1994 when it was proposed, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in today. But BOTH parties screwed up, and here we are.

Hackettstown, NJ

#5 Jan 9, 2011
Jeff Phillips wrote:
So you know Obama has made the Patriot Act Permanent.
I am a firm believer in a Balanced Budget Ammendment to the US Constitution. If it had been done in 1994 when it was proposed, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in today. But BOTH parties screwed up, and here we are.
I'll address 2 of the comments...

Comment one doesn't surprise me.

If you'd read other posts I've made, it's not just the political parties, but Big Financial capitalism putting us in these positions.

Unfortunately, a balanced budget Amendment, while not a bad idea on it's face, would probably be worded in such a way as to not make it binding.

Ok, I'll take one more having to do with Chinese subs...
ask yourself three questions:

1. how many countries has China invaded not withstanding Tibet in the 20th century?

2. how many countries does China have military bases in?

3. how many countries does the US have military bases in?

Your answers may make things more readily apparent.

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