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believe a cracker

Bedias, TX

#1 Jun 25, 2013
I have thought about this for a long time. I am a gun rights advocate , and I believe in the second amendment ,but you never have the right to shoot someone simply because you are getting your a$$ kicked (if they not an unwelcome guest in your house).
I also think it is completely appalling that a defense attorney would make idiotic "knock knock" jokes in his opening statements! I am surprised his father kept his composure , I don't think I could have .
this was never a racial issue ,and the media should be ashamed of themselves for reporting it that way in the beginning. its just simply a people issue.
hey

Elizabethtown, IN

#2 Jun 25, 2013
I don't agree with him killing him but he was within the law of Florida he stood his ground if anything comes of this change the law but Zimmermann did not break the law
believe a cracker

Bedias, TX

#4 Jun 25, 2013
hey wrote:
I don't agree with him killing him but he was within the law of Florida he stood his ground if anything comes of this change the law but Zimmermann did not break the law
this is simply my opinion (that's what topix is for) his duty to not retreat stems from his older male pride ,of getting his a$$ kicked by a much younger man. I don't mean to sound simplistic ,but that is just the way I see it. I think the jury will also. the 911 tapes are making this evident.
anywho

Elizabethtown, KY

#5 Jun 26, 2013
Who cares I see it like this it's one less ni***r in the world he should be given an medal not on trial. But it's not appropriate in this politically correct farce of a country
Mason

Elizabethtown, KY

#6 Jun 26, 2013
If if Zimmerman could have retreated what makes you think Martin would have let him retreat. Should Zimmerman have just waited until he was inconcious of the ground before defending himself. People get beat to death all the time....and besides that what right does Martin have to attack anyone. Zimmerman did not break the law by following Martin....but Martin broke the law by attacking Zimmerman. If I was in Zimmermans shoes I probably would have done the same thing. No one is going to beat me up especially if I'm armed

“YEEHAW!”

Since: Apr 13

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#7 Jun 26, 2013
You racist, illiterate, inbred rednecks are EXACTLY what's wrong with this country! You're the reason the rest of the world hates us... George Zimmerman was instructed to STOP FOLLOWING Trayvon Martin by the 911 dispatcher. His neighborhood watch training instructed him NOT TO FOLLOW people he deemed suspicious, but to call the police instead. Taking those two facts into consideration, Trayvon Martin is the one who was standing HIS ground.
bumblebee

United States

#8 Jun 26, 2013
Giggitty wrote:
You racist, illiterate, inbred rednecks are EXACTLY what's wrong with this country! You're the reason the rest of the world hates us... George Zimmerman was instructed to STOP FOLLOWING Trayvon Martin by the 911 dispatcher. His neighborhood watch training instructed him NOT TO FOLLOW people he deemed suspicious, but to call the police instead. Taking those two facts into consideration, Trayvon Martin is the one who was standing HIS ground.
At least some body knows what they are talking about
whiteamerica

Elizabethtown, KY

#9 Jun 26, 2013
Giggitty wrote:
You racist, illiterate, inbred rednecks are EXACTLY what's wrong with this country! You're the reason the rest of the world hates us... George Zimmerman was instructed to STOP FOLLOWING Trayvon Martin by the 911 dispatcher. His neighborhood watch training instructed him NOT TO FOLLOW people he deemed suspicious, but to call the police instead. Taking those two facts into consideration, Trayvon Martin is the one who was standing HIS ground.
no you black pieces of crap are whats wrong you all should have chains on your legs plowing my field. But i forgot most of your kind are in prison so i guess you like them chains. You know that boy was causing problems if George Zimmerman was black and shot a white kid it would have be ok no charges at all. It is because this country kisses your peoples a**

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#10 Jun 26, 2013
First there were white slaves to plowing fields to so you need to get that out of your head that it was all blacks that were doing it and it started out in Georgia when they need to get rid of all the white prisoner they had in England so you all need to get caught up on your education.
whiteamerica

Elizabethtown, KY

#11 Jun 26, 2013
thatonekid15 wrote:
First there were white slaves to plowing fields to so you need to get that out of your head that it was all blacks that were doing it and it started out in Georgia when they need to get rid of all the white prisoner they had in England so you all need to get caught up on your education.
true your right the point I am making is you need to know you place. And that there is a double standard as far as black and white relations
Mason

Elizabethtown, KY

#12 Jun 26, 2013
To not follow Martin was not a lawful order.....Zimmerman did not break ANY LAW by following Martin....just because some dispatcher told him not to follow this person .....What LAW did Zimmerman break???? Treyon Martin Attacked George Zimmerman....so what if he was being followed by Zimmerman....following some one is NOT AGAINST THE LAW. Hitting some one with a cinder block is against law.....
Hawk67

Lexington, KY

#13 Jun 26, 2013
believe a cracker wrote:
I have thought about this for a long time. I am a gun rights advocate , and I believe in the second amendment ,but you never have the right to shoot someone simply because you are getting your a$$ kicked (if they not an unwelcome guest in your house).
I also think it is completely appalling that a defense attorney would make idiotic "knock knock" jokes in his opening statements! I am surprised his father kept his composure , I don't think I could have .
this was never a racial issue ,and the media should be ashamed of themselves for reporting it that way in the beginning. its just simply a people issue.
I use to own a condo. Four buildings surrounding a pool which created a "court yard." Signs were posted PRIVATE PROPERTY NO TRESPASSING -- Yet every young person choose to disregard the signs we posted and cut right thru our courtyard ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT. Disregarding the signs saved these young people about 30 extra steps to cut thru the private property and avoid the public sidewalks. Simply put the youths were showing us " I'm going to do what I want; when I want regardless of the NO transpassing signs."

Questions:
I haven't seen yet WHY Travon was in the area of the sidewalk running between the two rows of condos where his body was found. I don't believe he lived at the condos -- how close was his home and why was this his (routine?) chosen path to take to get to the store?

After black youths were arrested at the condos for break-ins WHY continue to cut through at night wearing a hoodie-- did his parents or anyone advise him to avoid the cut thru at least for a time being?

NO I do not believe in shooting someone because they are preceived to be "part of a group"; color of their skin, etc. I'm just asking WHY was he choose purposely to continue to walk this route after the recent break ins?
Heh

Elizabethtown, KY

#14 Jun 26, 2013
whiteamerica wrote:
<quoted text> true your right the point I am making is you need to know you place. And that there is a double standard as far as black and white relations
please keep your racist bigoted comments to yourself. You're in the minority with this OMG IM WHITE IM BETTER THAN YOU mentality.

/not black
Fairchild

Vine Grove, KY

#17 Jun 26, 2013
Trayvon was staying the weekend at his father's . His father lived with a girlfriend who owned the condo in the complex. He was returning from the grocery and took the direct route. He was not trespassing.

Wearing a hoodie is not a sign of being a criminal. They are worn by millions of teens and adults throughout the world.

Being black is also not a sign of being a criminal or a reason to be followed.

He had a candy bar and bottle of tea. Real dangerous!
whiteamerica

Elizabethtown, KY

#18 Jun 26, 2013
Heh wrote:
<quoted text>
please keep your racist bigoted comments to yourself. You're in the minority with this OMG IM WHITE IM BETTER THAN YOU mentality.
/not black
your just an n***er lover who breeds these half breed pieces of garbage!

“YEEHAW!”

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#19 Jun 26, 2013
whiteamerica wrote:
<quoted text> no you black pieces of crap are whats wrong you all should have chains on your legs plowing my field. But i forgot most of your kind are in prison so i guess you like them chains. You know that boy was causing problems if George Zimmerman was black and shot a white kid it would have be ok no charges at all. It is because this country kisses your peoples a**
Hey Cletus, I AM WHITE, you idiot! I just don't believe that I'm any better than anyone else is, simply because of my skin color. Nor do I believe that anyone is any less of a human than I am, because the pigmentation of their skin happens to be a darker shade than mine... You wanna talk about stereotypes? Let's have a discussion about all of the uneducated, toothless, meth addicted, cousin loving, kid touching, WHITE wonders out there (like yourself, I'm assuming.) How about the fact that the majority of the serial killers/mass murders/pedophiles in this country just so happen to be WHITE. Or the fact that the most disgustingly heinous crimes are typically committed by WHITE men... You're also leaving out one very important point as to why so many black people are in prison. It's because racism is still rampant in this country, you fool! When a white person gets caught with drugs, etc. their dope is confiscated, they get a ticket, and they're sent on their merry way. When a black person is caught with drugs, etc. it's "go directly to jail; do not pass go, do not collect $200." It really is THAT simple... You're an embarrassment and a disgrace to the fine, upstanding people of this country! Do us all a favor and go count mufflers on the nearest highway! ;)

“YEEHAW!”

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#20 Jun 26, 2013
Mason wrote:
To not follow Martin was not a lawful order.....Zimmerman did not break ANY LAW by following Martin....just because some dispatcher told him not to follow this person .....What LAW did Zimmerman break???? Treyon Martin Attacked George Zimmerman....so what if he was being followed by Zimmerman....following some one is NOT AGAINST THE LAW. Hitting some one with a cinder block is against law.....
You certainly aren't a law professor, Mason, and it's painfully obvious! George Zimmerman pursued Trayvon Martin, not the other way around. And in the state of Florida that gave Trayvon the right (by law) to stand his ground... Even if nobody had told Zimmerman to stop following the kid, the stand your ground law would still have applied to Trayvon, because he had felt threatened. The fact that George was advised, by a number of higher ranking officials, NOT to follow Trayvon or any other suspicious person(s)- is just icing on the cake and will lead to his undoing... Trayvon wasn't doing anything unlawful that night, and for whatever reason, George targeted and proceeded to stalk him. Anyone would have fought back.

Also, no one was hit with a cinder block... Do some research, before you spew such crap!
Kelly

Rochester, NY

#21 Jun 26, 2013
hey wrote:
I don't agree with him killing him but he was within the law of Florida he stood his ground if anything comes of this change the law but Zimmermann did not break the law
He stood his ground after following him with a loaded gun. Sorry, but it seems he went out of his way for a confrontation and an unarmed teenager died. But then again, this is Florida and one big reason I would never want to live there.
Mason

Leitchfield, KY

#22 Jun 27, 2013
http://www.bubblews.com/news/710795-trayvon-m... did use a concrete block
Giggitty wrote:
<quoted text>
You certainly aren't a law professor, Mason, and it's painfully obvious! George Zimmerman pursued Trayvon Martin, not the other way around. And in the state of Florida that gave Trayvon the right (by law) to stand his ground... Even if nobody had told Zimmerman to stop following the kid, the stand your ground law would still have applied to Trayvon, because he had felt threatened. The fact that George was advised, by a number of higher ranking officials, NOT to follow Trayvon or any other suspicious person(s)- is just icing on the cake and will lead to his undoing... Trayvon wasn't doing anything unlawful that night, and for whatever reason, George targeted and proceeded to stalk him. Anyone would have fought back.
Also, no one was hit with a cinder block... Do some research, before you spew such crap!
Mason

Leitchfield, KY

#23 Jun 27, 2013
IT'S NOT AGAINST THE LAW TO FOLLOW SOMEONE....the dispatcher is not an official, not a law officer..and him telling not to follow WAS NOT A LAWFUL ORDER....It's obvious you no nothing of the LAW
Giggitty wrote:
<quoted text>
You certainly aren't a law professor, Mason, and it's painfully obvious! George Zimmerman pursued Trayvon Martin, not the other way around. And in the state of Florida that gave Trayvon the right (by law) to stand his ground... Even if nobody had told Zimmerman to stop following the kid, the stand your ground law would still have applied to Trayvon, because he had felt threatened. The fact that George was advised, by a number of higher ranking officials, NOT to follow Trayvon or any other suspicious person(s)- is just icing on the cake and will lead to his undoing... Trayvon wasn't doing anything unlawful that night, and for whatever reason, George targeted and proceeded to stalk him. Anyone would have fought back.
Also, no one was hit with a cinder block... Do some research, before you spew such crap!

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