New pain meds law
peewee

Elizabethtown, KY

#22 Dec 12, 2012
in pain and pissed wrote:
Is anyone else been treated like shit and effected by this new law. I showed for normal check up to get my refills and was turn away because i had surgey and was put under and sent home with post op meds quantity of 12. Then a month later had dental surgery and received two scripts qnty 5 and 8. The post op and dental meds is not even the same meds I normally receive. I have to lay in pain now until I can find another Dr. that will help. What do they expect people to do when their daily routine depends on medication. They are sure not handing out SSI.
Its called TYLENOL and IBUPROFEN!! most people are unaware that all of the narcotic pain meds Kill your liver and kidneys quick!! we are going to be a society of the young who are dead because their kidneys and liver failed them from pain pill abuse at age 40. If your smart you won't ever take anything more than a tylenol and take them no longer than you have to. EVERYTHING you put in your body that contains chemicals is destroying something in your body!!
jacksonnow

Elizabethtown, KY

#23 Dec 12, 2012
Linda wrote:
Most of the pill heads don't work and are on the gold card, insurance paid for by the taxpayer.
They show up complaining of pain and when the get a prescription for pain pills they can sell it on the s treet for cash.
So a 3 hour visit at the ER is not only paid for by the taxpayer, but so are the pills they get to sell.
They can't do it anymore!! they can't even give it at the dentist, i had an extraction and was prescribed 800mg ibuprofen which works just fine for me, im alergic to the narcotic drugs anyway, they make me vomit!! so guess there will be a bunch of grumpy junkies around!! lol im happy they finally did something about it! about time!
brockval

Walled Lake, MI

#24 Feb 13, 2013
I have never wished the chronic pain I experience on anyone before today. I pray you suffer one-fifth of the pain I suffer every single minute of every day.
Inpain

United States

#26 Feb 15, 2013
Stupid wrote:
The doctors are aware of drug seekers and so forth. Everytime you are prescribed a pain medication your name goes into a data base. And if you "doctor shop" they see that. Also when your doctor checks your urine for your pain pills for your "severe pain" and nothing comes back...that looks suspicious and they will stop prescribing them or lessen your prescription. This is not to you OP this is just a general statement. I'm sorry for your pain but I'm glad for the new laws. Doctors are constantly ruining into this bs and I don't blame them. People always ruin it for others, I know. I too have been there and not got the pain medication I feel thAt I needed. Might as well make the same rules apply to everyone unless of course you have a documented reason.
After reading some of these posts, I had to speak up. I've had chronic pain for years. I dealt with as long as I could. Now I have to drive 200 miles round trip in order to get minimum relief. My pain keeps me awake most nights. My condition is going to progressively become worse and more pain is guaranteed. Several specialists have said so.

My point? A lot of the "pill problem" is coming into the state in quantities.of thousands, not scripts with 90 pills of 5 mg. nothing. People like myself are the ones penalized. Not those who roll in here with suitcases full of pills, and people OD ing off stuff they shouldn't mix and take. My family Dr
won't give me squat yet has my medical file. The Gov. just bankrupted those who legit. need, and making out of state mules rich in kentucky.
glad

Greensburg, KY

#27 Feb 16, 2013
Inpain wrote:
<quoted text> After reading some of these posts, I had to speak up. I've had chronic pain for years. I dealt with as long as I could. Now I have to drive 200 miles round trip in order to get minimum relief. My pain keeps me awake most nights. My condition is going to progressively become worse and more pain is guaranteed. Several specialists have said so.
My point? A lot of the "pill problem" is coming into the state in quantities.of thousands, not scripts with 90 pills of 5 mg. nothing. People like myself are the ones penalized. Not those who roll in here with suitcases full of pills, and people OD ing off stuff they shouldn't mix and take. My family Dr
won't give me squat yet has my medical file. The Gov. just bankrupted those who legit. need, and making out of state mules rich in kentucky.
im glad my brother is a doctor!he knows my condition of back pain for years and i can still get my meds...
You make no sense

Sag Harbor, NY

#28 Apr 10, 2013
I suffer wrote:
I suffer from chronic pain and understand the frustration so many of us are facing. I have severe IBS and massive scar tissue, run fevers a majority of the time. My treating physicians do not even know if that is what is truly wrong. All I know is that I am in pain, and it has severely limited my quality of life. My pain started six years after my last son was born, and I am assuming the scar tissue is caused by the C-section I had with him. My periods became worse and worse, the pain was unbelievable and it aggravated whatever is wrong with me. I was denied pain medication besides Motrin base ones, which played havoc on my stomach. I eventually went on line and found Tylonal with codeine myself. The alternative is being in pain. I was on Medi-cal and I was discriminated against at the doctors, ER, and refused pain medication. It is a nightmare. Once I had an HMO plan this condition had worsened. I have been hospitalized for unknown stomach issues. Still, my doctor was hesitant to give me pain medication. My primary referred me to a pain specialist, who was and is a nightmare. I was treated poorly, refused pain medication for break through pain, and ended up admitted to the hospital, because of the pain. If I have break through pain, I have to go to the ER. Even though I do not see the pain specialist anymore, she has banned me from getting any medication from outside sources, even medication to prevent nausea. I find it easier to get the dose of pain medication from the internet. It is not worth dealing with a horrid pain management doctor who refuses to manage my pain adequately. Even after I was hospitalized and in horrid pain, my PSD refused to give me something for the agonizing pain I am in. I am fortunate that I can take a low dose of tylonal 3 and do not have to take any other narcotics. After dealing and reading some of the horror stories, I would never go to a PSD. The laws are horrible and wrong. Pain meds help to normalize your life so your not stuck in bed. Just a small amount of codeine brings my blood pressure down, helps me to function. It is sad that the DEA has nothing better to do. More people with find alternatives such as going to Mexico or getting the medication they need from a drug dealer.


First off I don't even understand Y exactly u need pain meds,#1 u have ibs so of of course the dr is hesitant to give u pain meds bc they cz constipation duhhh n ur BMs r already out of wack.#2 funny that Motrin bothers ur stomach but narcotic pain meds don't??? Wow u have a real funny stomach.#3 u should be worrying about psych meds if ur ibs is soo bad #3 the pain for ibs is treated w antispasmodics like bentyl #4 my periods are horrible I hemorrhage, vomit, n cannot walk come to find out I have endometriosis n fibroids yet if i even I take anything it's Motrin #5 my mother has degenerative disc disease, carpal tunnel, bursitis, n RA ...she cant walk @ times yet she works her ass off w her business which is physical n she had been a single mom yet has never recvd social services or medicaid....she still Has 2 Vicodin from a script from march of 2010!!!#6 FUNNY THAT EVERYONE "PHYSICIANS", THE PAIN MNGTMENT DR, UR PRIMARY, N THE ER DRS ALL DO NOT WANT TO MEDICATE U...HINT HINT TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR. WHAT R THE CHANCES ALL OF THESE DRS SOME OF WHO DONT NO EACHOTHER, ALL REFUSE U PAIN MEDS!! N WAT NORMAL PERSON WOULD RATHER GO TO A DRUG DEALER????WHAT NORMAL LAW ABIDING CITIZEN WOULD EVEN THINK THAT ?!?!? FUNNY HOW UR TOO GOOD TO SIT IN THE ER FOR 8hrs but UR NOT TOO GOOD TO MEET A DEALER??? U have issues, ur the reason this 75 y/o man cannot get his meds....WHY ELSE DO U THINK U CAN'T GET PAIN MEDS...IT'S IS PPL LIKE U THAT A DR WOULD LOOSE HIS LICENSE FOR GIVING A SCRIPT...N WHAT THE HELL R U TALKING ABOUT THE DEA HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO?!?! HAVE U TURNED ON THE DAMN NEWS?? Or r u busy meeting dealers?? Or drug shopping online? THERE IS A DRUG EPIDEMIC U ASS IT'S ALL OVER
FYI

Newburgh, IN

#29 Apr 10, 2013
The State Legislature has changed the pill mill bill.

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/13RS/HB217.htm
DUMB ASSES

Washington, DC

#30 Apr 16, 2013
Compassionate wrote:
<quoted text>
These prescriptions have been passed out like candy for so long that the medical community has been careless with the regulation of narcotic pain meds. Thus contributing to the addictions out there.'Junkies' don't always become junkies because they are looking for a high. I know many good, honest people who have been fighting narcotic pain killer addictions for many years because they've grown dependent thanks to over-medicating Docs and lack of proper regulation. I think it's great that we are looking at ways to balance the amount of scripts being written so unsuspecting patients don't fall victim to the misunderstood dangers of these meds. I'm not sure if this is the perfect solution but it's a step in the right direction. Mis-use typically begins with a harmless script to relieve pain. It's an easy fix, as opposed to non-narcotic non-addictive options which are typically only prescribed if specifically requested. Weird, right?
Don't even get me started on rehab programs. A little research would lead you to believe the govt funded and only affordable options are designed to keep you dependent on something that feeds the state's pocket. Although, I'm not surprised.
Dealing with chronic pain is a terrible thing to experience and/or watch. At some point you have to decide the lesser of the two evils- Constant misery or dependancy. It's a sad situation.
I like that there is more focus on this growing problem that is killing people and destroying lies every day. I just hope we find a balance so those who need pain relief are not left to suffer.
What's wrong with being dependent on a med diabetic people are dependent on there meds or they get sick rite so what's wrong with someone in pain like me being dependent on there meds if your stupid enough to abuse your meds or take something thats not prescribed to you then you deserve everything that happens to you because of you DUMB ASSESS I have to suffer after I sign a contract pass all my urine screens I don't think its fair DUMB ASSESS FUCK IT UP AND GET BABYING AWWWW POOR YOU YOUR ADDICTED NO THROW THEM IN JAIL FUCKIN DUMB ASSESS
DUMB ASSES

Washington, DC

#31 Apr 16, 2013
peewee wrote:
<quoted text> Its called TYLENOL and IBUPROFEN!! most people are unaware that all of the narcotic pain meds Kill your liver and kidneys quick!! we are going to be a society of the young who are dead because their kidneys and liver failed them from pain pill abuse at age 40. If your smart you won't ever take anything more than a tylenol and take them no longer than you have to. EVERYTHING you put in your body that contains chemicals is destroying something in your body!!
you need to do some research opiates do not harm any organs in the human body unlike TYLENOL and other NSAIDS which are extremely harmful to your liver and NSAIDS cause heart attacks and strokes
Exactly

United States

#32 Apr 16, 2013
You need to learn a thing or two. Tylenol will kill your liver. Take Tylenol after a night of drinking to prevent a headache and you could easily be dead by morning by doing it just one time. People in true pain really do need meds and they slowly build up a resistance to them so they keep having to be prescribed stronger meds. Most people don't want to take them and never asked to be in the situation that they are in. They keep working, the pay taxes, and they are now being lumped in and treated like the losers that are creating the problems by taking bucket fulls of the medicine or selling them. SO..don't be so quick to judge.
jfinenurse

Nicholasville, KY

#33 Apr 21, 2013
Compassionate wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm so sorry to hear that you are going through this. You have just given a prime example of the lack of intelligent discretion and balance in the extreme regulation I mentioned. I am glad this issue is getting focus and attention, but I hope legislators take a look at patient needs such as yours and take all factors in consideration when amending changes to these laws. There are two different types of people being heavily affected... One being the people who should be affected and the other being patients such as yourself who are using the medications as intended. Best of luck to you...
I just moved to Kentucky from FL. I have among other things Rheumatoid Arthritis. I am also a chronic pain patient. I moved here to help with the arthritis.

After either trying or refusing every pain medication available( I wasn't going to be one of "those people") my doctor in FL finally came up with a solution. Methadone. I thought he was out of his mind, but it worked. I was functional and could actually enjoy my life as long as I didn't do too much repetitive motion with my right arm.

I came to KY for the milder and much less humid summers. I am a VA patient and I signed up here for continuation of care. WHOA, hold the phone. We aren't going to give you methadone. Actually we aren't going to give you anything. You need to take Neurontin and have a sympathectomy. Alergic to Neurontin and more recently to it's stronger cousin Lyrica and have already had 2 sympathectomies. They let me go through withdrawal. That wasn't so bad as I only take a low dose of methadone, but the fact that I had to do it at all boggles the mind.

Then the pain ramped back up. Instead of being outside planting a garden and riding a bike, I am sitting on my couch crying in pain all day. I could have done the same thing in the FL summers, without the pain.

The people here are idiots. The drug problem here doesn't come from here. It comes from pill mills in south FL. Instead of painting everyone with the same "drug addict, drug seeker, junkie" brush, maybe they should put some pressure on FL to shut down the pill mills in the south.

They are an open secret. There have been at least 2 documentaries done on them. The DEA knows about them, the state knows about them, hell, the whole country knows about them.

But no. People who have not even seen me know I am a drug addict. I am not any drug addict. I am drug dependent, just like a patient who has to take insulin for diabetes to be able to function.

I may actually have to pack up and move back to FL so I can have a non-functional life there. My doctor is the one who told me to move out of FL in the first place.
Goodness goodness

Fort Knox, KY

#34 Apr 21, 2013
hey jfinenurse!

You just moved here. KY has a big drug problem. Started in Eastern KY and moved west.

There must be a reason the VA, a federal system, isn't giving you pain meds. Would love to know what that is. Hmmm...
haha

Elizabethtown, KY

#35 Apr 22, 2013
I love it. When did people start moving to Kentucky for arthritis. I've heard it all now. People move to Florida cause they hate the cold weather and it helps their arthritis. And now they move to Kentucky for 100 degree mild summer for arthritis. One thing for sure they should flood the streets with the pills till the pill heads drop off one by one overdosing. All the meth heads as well pump them with more than they ever had and end it. Weak minded individuals causing the rest of us not to be able to enjoy the benefits of a pain killer used the correct way.
Mandy

United States

#36 Apr 22, 2013
My mother is hooked on pain pills. She's had a doctor for years who will prescribe her whatever she wants & now she can't even function. She sounds stoned when you talk to her & I will never allow her to watch my daughter or be alone with her because I can't trust her. I hope these new laws will help.
Observer

Grapeland, TX

#37 Apr 29, 2013
Actually, Drew- heroin is the next drug.
When these were taken off the streets, IV use took it's place.
Seems to me it would have been easier to treat a pill problem versus a herion problem.
tryingharder

Tucker, GA

#38 Apr 29, 2013
I've been in pain for years for being the victim of a lot of car wrecks. I need the pain meds but I do without because I can't afford Dr visits and bottles of Medicine every month. Sometimes Tylenol, excedrin, Ib profrin doesn't always cut it. There's people who need the pills, and people who just want the pills. And there's so many that just want them, that it makes it harder for those who need them to get them. It's sad, but it's true. And it will always be. Don't belittle those who need them just cause you know a few junkies. Not everyone makes the same bad decisions as others.
FYI

Newburgh, IN

#39 Apr 30, 2013
I agree those who really need them should be able to get them without humiliation from the drs office. Law breakers ruin it for honest people. We suffer because we are honest.
everyone will see

United States

#40 Oct 14, 2013
Only thing this will do, and already has, is increase the use and popularity of heroin. Watch and see, it happens every where the law cracks down on opiates such as a lortab.Then heroin arrest and overdose SOAR.
flint hill bandit

United States

#41 Oct 14, 2013
Yea ive broke my back not once but twice and i caint get shit.the ones of us that need it is the ones suffering from this new law.i think its bullshit myself.
aka the count

Kingsport, TN

#42 Dec 11, 2013
i think people that need the medication people are really need meds. can not get their meds because of the people that abuse them, it shoudnt be that people have to suffer because of the young people that abuse them. you cant get meds you need now they tell you they dont have them but they do .they save the good people they know. cvs will do that to you. they save the medication for the ones they want to have. they put so much shit in cigarettse he quiet due to mr. obama he used to smoke since he dont smoke any more they tax of them then they put all kinds of very rough cheminals in them what about beer and liquar nothing is done woder why

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