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Campbellsville, KY

#1 Mar 19, 2013
I heard they are in e-town picking up mexicans that have been deported and came back has anyone else heard about this?
CMON

Albany, KY

#2 Mar 19, 2013
Who gives a damn... GET THEM ILLEGAL FELON BEANERS THE F*CK OUT OF HERE!!!
really

United States

#3 Mar 20, 2013
CMON wrote:
Who gives a damn... GET THEM ILLEGAL FELON BEANERS THE F*CK OUT OF HERE!!!
yeah and if they try to come back shoot first then ask questions
really m

United States

#4 Mar 20, 2013
While they are at it let's deport camel jockeys deport blacks back to the ghetto

“Faith. Folk. Family.”

Since: Feb 13

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#6 Apr 11, 2013
Obama wants to legalize 25 million immigrants.

F_cking white genocide.
believe a cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#7 Apr 11, 2013
northern wind wrote:
Obama wants to legalize 25 million immigrants.
F_cking white genocide.
to be fair,its also establishment republicans as well,but what an amazing thing to do while unemployment is so high already. when legalized,they will qualify for every ounce of government assistance this country has to offer.
economic genocide my friend.
you have to ask yourself why are these things going on? it doesnt add up. i dont think thats a "conspiracy theory" ,but just plain common sense!
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#8 Apr 11, 2013
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>to be fair,its also establishment republicans as well,but what an amazing thing to do while unemployment is so high already. when legalized,they will qualify for every ounce of government assistance this country has to offer.
economic genocide my friend.
you have to ask yourself why are these things going on? it doesnt add up. i dont think thats a "conspiracy theory" ,but just plain common sense!
Labor costs. Business doesn't care if workers are whites, Mexicans, Indians, or Asians (most new immigrants are actually Asian these days). Bring them all in and let them compete to see who will work the cheapest. The market doesn't care about who is on Government assistance because, through tax loopholes and low tax lobbyists, businesses generally let the workers pay for their non-working neighbors anyway. Not a conspiracy at all. Corporations own this country, and they just let you live in it. Like I always tell you, Cracker, if you don't like that then don't elect politicians who are in the pocket of corporations. But, of course, you'll just call me a freedom-hating Socialist or OWS member for stating the obvious. You'll end up telling me that immigration restrictions are just unnecessary business regulation, and you'll be waiving the Mexican flag about 10 paragraphs from now.
believe a cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#9 Apr 11, 2013
The Point wrote:
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Labor costs. Business doesn't care if workers are whites, Mexicans, Indians, or Asians (most new immigrants are actually Asian these days). Bring them all in and let them compete to see who will work the cheapest. The market doesn't care about who is on Government assistance because, through tax loopholes and low tax lobbyists, businesses generally let the workers pay for their non-working neighbors anyway. Not a conspiracy at all. Corporations own this country, and they just let you live in it. Like I always tell you, Cracker, if you don't like that then don't elect politicians who are in the pocket of corporations. But, of course, you'll just call me a freedom-hating Socialist or OWS member for stating the obvious. You'll end up telling me that immigration restrictions are just unnecessary business regulation, and you'll be waiving the Mexican flag about 10 paragraphs from now.
you seem to have voted,or agreed with obama in alot of our conversations. is he not in the "hip pocket" of alot of corporations? so what is your obvious? who is going to control your "big business" regulation? third party ? perhaps we may agree
Point and Cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#10 Apr 11, 2013
If you both work in Hardin county or live in Hardin county, what impact has illegal immigration had on Hardin County as a whole? Much or not much? That is when you think about other more influencing circumstances directly related to Hardin County in general.
super freeek

United States

#11 Apr 11, 2013
Pure politics people! Come on! There are a record # of people on some kind of govt aid. These people have voted Obama into office twice now. Take a looke at the blue states and the correlation of people on govt aid is a direct reflection of those population bases that voted dem. Promises of more free stuff and legalization of illegals will almost guarentee another democratic president in 2016. Unless the GOP gets on board with this same BS. On the current direction, our country will almost certainly fail. We cannot sustain the current ratio of takers vs. givers and continue to operate. The govt officials see this but they dont care, as staying in office is more important to them than the state of our union.
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#12 Apr 11, 2013
Point and Cracker wrote:
If you both work in Hardin county or live in Hardin county, what impact has illegal immigration had on Hardin County as a whole? Much or not much? That is when you think about other more influencing circumstances directly related to Hardin County in general.
I don't personally think we have many illegal immigrants here in Hardin County, mainly because we don't have extremely large industrial farms to draw them here. Most of those you think you see here are probably H1 (temp worker visas) connected through retail and hospitality businesses. Maybe a few landscape companies have illegals, but I'd suspect they get close enough scrutiny to keep their paperwork in order. I'm not too close to the ground on the matter, but I suspect that most all the larger employers here (the auto suppliers) have only legal workers. I could be wrong...really don't know.
Anonymous

Payson, AZ

#13 Apr 11, 2013
"A good illegal alien is a dead illegal alien". No crime, no filth, no anchor babies. Toxins loose in America.
The are the scum of south and central America. Deport them all including Asians and Europeans.
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#14 Apr 11, 2013
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>you seem to have voted,or agreed with obama in alot of our conversations. is he not in the "hip pocket" of alot of corporations? so what is your obvious? who is going to control your "big business" regulation? third party ? perhaps we may agree
Yes, both Democrats and Republicans are controlled by corporate interests. That's the way the system was designed, and that's the way it works. That's why your arguments about socialism and all that are ridiculous...no corporation is going to pay a politician to kill Capitalism. So Democrats get more money from Insurers, while Republicans get more from Pharma. Thus Obamacare while the Dems are in control. So the Repubs get money from gun manufacturers (to sell more guns), while the Dems get money from Insurers (to reduce the claims they have to pay on shootings)...again, nothing to do with any evil agenda. The corporate interest that pays enough money to get their people elected control the agenda at that time. That is Capitalism. Now, all corporations agree that immigration is good because (1) it drives down labor costs through employee competition, and (2) it expands the employee tax base so that employers have to pick up less of the tab. So you think it sucks because you have to compete harder for a job and get paid less. Yeah, well, unless you're willing to fund a campaign at the same level as corporate interests (and campaign in a media controlled by essentially six corporations), get over it.
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#15 Apr 11, 2013
super freeek wrote:
Take a looke at the blue states and the correlation of people on govt aid is a direct reflection of those population bases that voted dem. Promises of more free stuff and legalization of illegals will almost guarentee another democratic president in 2016.
That talking point is a little tired, don't you think? Yes, blue states have much higher populations, so they have more people on assistance. They also pay a lot more in taxes. In fact, it's mostly a case of population makes a state Red or Blue. Urban dwellers tend to vote Democrat (because of their ethnic and religious diversity), Rural dwellers tend to vote Republican because of their homogeneity. The more urban areas you have, the more likely your state is to be blue. Yes, Hispanics mostly voted for Obama, but so did most every one else other than older white male Baptists from the South. I'm really glad we have all these hard working makers here in Kentucky to pay for all those poor Jews in NY and FL, Asian/Indian scientists in CA, Irish bankers in MA/RI/NH/CT, and Methodist farmers in IA/MI/WI/MN/IL/OH...and every woman under 60 in every state /sarc.

“Faith. Folk. Family.”

Since: Feb 13

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#16 Apr 11, 2013
The Point wrote:
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I don't personally think we have many illegal immigrants here in Hardin County, mainly because we don't have extremely large industrial farms to draw them here. Most of those you think you see here are probably H1 (temp worker visas) connected through retail and hospitality businesses. Maybe a few landscape companies have illegals, but I'd suspect they get close enough scrutiny to keep their paperwork in order. I'm not too close to the ground on the matter, but I suspect that most all the larger employers here (the auto suppliers) have only legal workers. I could be wrong...really don't know.
No, you are perfectly right. There are few places that hire these kind of workers. Though you may see a restaurant or two with illegal workers, we are in a pretty good place to live.
The problem is. If the policies continue, it will be a temporary state of affairs.
believe a cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#17 Apr 12, 2013
The Point wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, both Democrats and Republicans are controlled by corporate interests. That's the way the system was designed, and that's the way it works. That's why your arguments about socialism and all that are ridiculous...no corporation is going to pay a politician to kill Capitalism. So Democrats get more money from Insurers, while Republicans get more from Pharma. Thus Obamacare while the Dems are in control. So the Repubs get money from gun manufacturers (to sell more guns), while the Dems get money from Insurers (to reduce the claims they have to pay on shootings)...again, nothing to do with any evil agenda. The corporate interest that pays enough money to get their people elected control the agenda at that time. That is Capitalism. Now, all corporations agree that immigration is good because (1) it drives down labor costs through employee competition, and (2) it expands the employee tax base so that employers have to pick up less of the tab. So you think it sucks because you have to compete harder for a job and get paid less. Yeah, well, unless you're willing to fund a campaign at the same level as corporate interests (and campaign in a media controlled by essentially six corporations), get over it.
you know full well i think american politics is a dog and pony show. i agree with you to a point,but i think capitalism can still work if lobbyist stay out of washington,also no more bailouts for companies or banks(bad run on sentence) so many politicians have gotten filthy rich just by passing laws to convenience corporations on both sides of the isle,no doubt about that.
i like capitalism,and i want it to work,but that would mean politicians would have to pass laws against filling their own wallet. you have to remember that its not always the biggest campaign spender that wins elections. if people were truly educated about who they voted for, these 30 second adds wouldnt matter. people know more about their favorite sports player than they do the guy they voted for.
o my God, we are close to agreeing, this a topix milestone.
believe a cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#18 Apr 12, 2013
Point and Cracker wrote:
If you both work in Hardin county or live in Hardin county, what impact has illegal immigration had on Hardin County as a whole? Much or not much? That is when you think about other more influencing circumstances directly related to Hardin County in general.
i honestly dont think it has impacted hardin county much,not in my line of work.
in louisville alot of my friends say it is hard to get entry level jobs, or service oriented jobs because of illegals.
i will admit this though, mexican immigrants are hard to compete with in a hiring environment. most take their work very serious,at any level,most have very low debt,and pay cash for everything,and most live very simple. we native americans could learn a valuable lesson from the way they live.
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#19 Apr 12, 2013
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>you know full well i think american politics is a dog and pony show. i agree with you to a point,but i think capitalism can still work if lobbyist stay out of washington,also no more bailouts for companies or banks(bad run on sentence) so many politicians have gotten filthy rich just by passing laws to convenience corporations on both sides of the isle,no doubt about that.
i like capitalism,and i want it to work,but that would mean politicians would have to pass laws against filling their own wallet. you have to remember that its not always the biggest campaign spender that wins elections. if people were truly educated about who they voted for, these 30 second adds wouldnt matter. people know more about their favorite sports player than they do the guy they voted for.
o my God, we are close to agreeing, this a topix milestone.
Our government works exactly as designed: as a compromise of competing interests. In the modern world, that means that the best Marketer usually wins. But don't be fooled into thinking that business somehow took over America; rich guys founded and designed this country for their benefit, not yours. Did you know that most people in the South prior to the Civil War likely DID NOT support slavery and likely DID NOT want to secede from the Union? But, of course, the plantation owners controlled the politicians who, in turn, would jail anyone who refused to fight their war. Today, poor Southerners display their Confederate flags and talk about how their great grandpappy proudly fought the Yanks to defend THEIR rights. That, my friend, is some quality marketing that even Karl Rove must envy.

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Since: Feb 13

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#20 Apr 12, 2013
The Point, while your defeatist, wishy-washy attitude is nauseating I will have to agree on some of the general points you are trying to make. This does not mean you accept what is going on, especially if it is harmful...which it IS. Obama talks about wanting to bring in the "best and brightest" from all over the world. This is his marketing point in trying to sell his mass immigration policies. In my opinion, that was a pretty big mistake. Many of his own supporters balked because even when you are talking to an indoctrinated mass of people, this was just the wrong time to say that kind of thing. I don't think there will need to be a corporate interests level campaign.

I'm a pre-law student, and young, so I might have a little more fire in my belly than old cracker up there. I think you'll find that marketing ideas and appealing to big-wigs is not the only kind of genius that can make change in our government.

One of the beauties of our Constitution is that our founders entrusted usówe the people, and only we the peopleówith the responsibility to repair the imperfections that any man-made charter would inevitably develop. And as imperfections came to light, we the people did our best to fix them, so far with twenty-seven amendments.

Cracker aint far off. It's as simple as finding a way to see the enabling policies eliminated. It's happened before, it can happen again. The moral high ground is one of the best marketing points, if you want to look at it that way.

Also, man. I think you should read up on your Civil War. While slavery was not supported by many southerners(even Robert E. Lee), and there was a general dissent at the idea of disunion...this point meant nothing the last few years that led to the Civil War. The Southerners felt that they were being discriminated against(look up info about federal tariffs and southern fears of being a bullied minority)
You'll find that while slavery and plantation owners did indeed push the scales for sucession, and there was a LOT of southerners that did not support slavery. The southern states would not have declared disunion if they had not been irritated and repressed for years.
believe a cracker

Campbellsville, KY

#21 Apr 12, 2013
The Point wrote:
<quoted text>
Our government works exactly as designed: as a compromise of competing interests. In the modern world, that means that the best Marketer usually wins. But don't be fooled into thinking that business somehow took over America; rich guys founded and designed this country for their benefit, not yours. Did you know that most people in the South prior to the Civil War likely DID NOT support slavery and likely DID NOT want to secede from the Union? But, of course, the plantation owners controlled the politicians who, in turn, would jail anyone who refused to fight their war. Today, poor Southerners display their Confederate flags and talk about how their great grandpappy proudly fought the Yanks to defend THEIR rights. That, my friend, is some quality marketing that even Karl Rove must envy.
my God have you have turned into a conspiracy theorist?
northern wind is correct in his version of civil war history,and its not an opinion. i will also add that licoln trampled the constitution in those years,but gets revered like a hero.(this is not a racial statement,just a fact) its a shame i have to even make a disclaimer.
practicing the art of self governance is the key issue into solving this problem. using the constitution,and demanding accountability from elected officials,the FREE market can still survive.
look, i dont pretend to have the education that northern wind or you have,but we three have had better discussions,and covered more ground than the people who represent us in washington. we the people dont need marketers,politicians,expert think tanks...ect to run our lives or government. we simply need to practice the art of self governance by having an interest in things that are important.

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