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Officials at Guntersville State Park Disagree about Removing Trees

There are 33 comments on the WHNT News 19 story from Sep 22, 2010, titled Officials at Guntersville State Park Disagree about Removing Trees. In it, WHNT News 19 reports that:

A disagreement between state park officials and Marshall County legislators and citizens appears to have a resolution.

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ThomasA

Leeds, AL

#21 Sep 24, 2010
muddin_ wrote:
most people who use atvs take care of the area they ride. its the idiots who dont care about anyone elses property that ruins it for everyone. i agree that atvs should not be in state parks due to the wildlife but they do not cause that much damage. horses cause just as much damage and the state offers a trail for them.
Take care of the area my foot! It's not the ATV or the bike that does the damage. It's the riders who seem to go brain- dead when they crank up that cause the damage. Hikers and horses don't dig long ruts like knobby tires do ordo they see who can act the most obnoxious while in public. Damage and bad behavior is why more private property owners are saying NO to using their land. Keep them out the parks.
Rexy----you have no idea

Coudersport, PA

#22 Sep 28, 2010
Rex the Grinch wrote:
<quoted text>Have you driven through the park? I doubt you have. True they might have logged only a portion of the 6000 acres but a great deal of the 6000 acres isnt visible unless you go hiking. With that being said the loggin that was done was done for one reason and that was for money. They person that ran Lake Guntersville has bankrupt every park he has ever been in charge of. He needs to go.
I been through the park more times that you can count. However, you probably can't count very high. You obvioulsy have no idea how things work in state parks. If anybody has any sense they know that it was not done for the money. The brush clearing and dead tree removal will cut into any money that could be made. The park isn't getting any money out of this situation. If the loggers came in, cut trees, and left, then the park could make some money. But they are cleaning up after themselves. The majority of folks like the new thinned out wooded areas. I bet you would have liked to have stayed in one of the chalets and see the sunset over the river. BUT, they stopped it and now you will only be able to see the dead trees off the poarch. How do you bankrupt a state park anyway? What parks has he bankrupted? Do you even know the person that runs the park? Why don't you get off the computer and go hiking and you can see the areas that were left untouched. You have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm sure you could do a better job. You should run for office.
Stan and Kyle

Knoxville, TN

#23 Sep 28, 2010
muddin_ wrote:
most people who use atvs take care of the area they ride. its the idiots who dont care about anyone elses property that ruins it for everyone. i agree that atvs should not be in state parks due to the wildlife but they do not cause that much damage. horses cause just as much damage and the state offers a trail for them.
I agree with your comments. I hope some day the state of Alabama will use the Hatfield and McCoy trail system as a model. It's the world's largest ATV and dirt bike trail system. You buy permits to ride which pay for the up keep and educate the stupid on how to preserve nature and a place to ride. It has been an economic boom for the area. The local riding clubs volunteer uncounted hours to help the state of West Virgina maintain and preserving the trails. No loud bikes are allowed and spark arrestor are mandated with very serious fines imposed to violators. The electric off road motorcycle segment is exploding. This might be a good opportunity to have an electric off road and bicycle trail system. The trail system also aids in fighting forest fires and allows for scenic fire breaks. Alabama could lead the nation in out door preservation and FUN.
Bright Eyes

United States

#26 Sep 28, 2010
You, Harley-driver from Denmark are a piece of work. Stan & kyle is one person and no boy, so be careful what you wish for. Stay on your side of the pond and not worry about what's going on here. Unless, there is a terrorist attack in Denmark, where thousands of people are killed and injured, no one is interested in what you have to say.
Stan and Kyle

Knoxville, TN

#27 Sep 28, 2010
Bright Eyes wrote:
You, Harley-driver from Denmark are a piece of work. Stan & kyle is one person and no boy, so be careful what you wish for. Stay on your side of the pond and not worry about what's going on here. Unless, there is a terrorist attack in Denmark, where thousands of people are killed and injured, no one is interested in what you have to say.
Thanks Bright Eyes. I missed the rude remarks.I am one person. My screen name is based on my favorite South Park cartoon characters. At the end of each episode they are the voice of reason. I don't pretend to be the voice of reason. Just representing mine and my generation opinion.
Bright Eyes

United States

#28 Sep 28, 2010
Stan & Kyle: Sorry if I gave you away. All this time I had the feeling that you were one person but I do feel no one has the right to respond to your comment that way.
Park Friend

Albertville, AL

#29 Sep 28, 2010
If they want to stop the logging, ok. But let's get the park usage fee going. It cost to keep the park looking as good as it does, $5.00 per vehicle is a small price to pay to visit this wonderful area.
ThomasA

Leeds, AL

#30 Sep 29, 2010
Park Friend wrote:
If they want to stop the logging, ok. But let's get the park usage fee going. It cost to keep the park looking as good as it does,$5.00 per vehicle is a small price to pay to visit this wonderful area.
Good idea but.... how much is it going to cost to have someone at the main gate taking up the money 7 days a week, two shifts a day, state retirement,insurance,salary,be nefits. I can see a fee for the beach and camping area where there is already an attendant but not for the entire park. For the tree huggers who don't want logging, please don't bother screaming "do something" when the next invasion of pine bark beetles come in, and they will be back. Live with the problem you are creating.
Big Earl florabama

Guntersville, AL

#31 Sep 29, 2010
lawdog wrote:
<quoted text>big earl,you're a goob.
Thank yoy, Mrs.Mclaughlin!
phil mcavitee

Kimbolton, OH

#32 Sep 29, 2010
instead of removing trees,please remove rikki klaus!!

she s been messing with peoples husbands.

and her breath is RANCID!!!!!
Bob

Madison, AL

#33 Oct 3, 2010
Park Friend wrote:
If they want to stop the logging, ok. But let's get the park usage fee going. It cost to keep the park looking as good as it does,$5.00 per vehicle is a small price to pay to visit this wonderful area.
I totally agree. Usage fees are the way to go. They could dig a humongus mud hole and charge rednecks $10 a pop to try and get their trucks and ATV's stuck in it. Maybe even offer a prize for the loudest engine. They could even host "muddin" festivals and sell rebel flags, tatoos, and snuff. This might even fill up the lodge and campground in the off-season and be a major windfall.
MaxShelby

Harpersville, AL

#34 Oct 7, 2010
To Thomas A:

"Live with the problem you are creating."

What the heck does that mean exactly? It's been my experience that pro business types always blame the conservationists for the problems THEY create.

As for the salary of an employee, how about we take some of the 250-500 million plus a year that comes into the state coffers from the oil and gas revenues and use it for something that does not involve pork--like these endless roads and developments that are nothing more than corporate welfare and political paybacks?

There has to be a middle ground Thomas, and in this state with anti-preservation Riley at the helm, it has been a disaster.

Of the 100% of the 0&G revenues, 65% goes into the ripe for pet projects and misappropriation General Fund (I know, I know there are needed expenditures from the fund) only 10% goes to Forever Wild and that is set expire in 2012.

That kind of makes it clear from where I sit.

And no, I am not anti-business or anti-development. What I am is anti-corruption and pro business interests running everything in this state.

That's wrongheaded.
ThomasA

Leeds, AL

#35 Oct 7, 2010
MaxShelby wrote:
To Thomas A:
"Live with the problem you are creating."
What the heck does that mean exactly? It's been my experience that pro business types always blame the conservationists for the problems THEY create.
As for the salary of an employee, how about we take some of the 250-500 million plus a year that comes into the state coffers from the oil and gas revenues and use it for something that does not involve pork--like these endless roads and developments that are nothing more than corporate welfare and political paybacks?
There has to be a middle ground Thomas, and in this state with anti-preservation Riley at the helm, it has been a disaster.
Of the 100% of the 0&G revenues, 65% goes into the ripe for pet projects and misappropriation General Fund (I know, I know there are needed expenditures from the fund) only 10% goes to Forever Wild and that is set expire in 2012.
That kind of makes it clear from where I sit.
And no, I am not anti-business or anti-development. What I am is anti-corruption and pro business interests running everything in this state.
That's wrongheaded.
You seem to have a short sighted memory of the major problem in the park when the pine bark beetle came in several years back. You had the do and do not cut people battling back and forth while the infested areas were dangerous to the visitors of the park due to falling dead trees and dead limbs. Now the tree huggers want no more cutting? Good, then no more cutting when there is another infestation. Post signs that say DANGER FALLING TREES & LIMBS HAVE A NICE DAY.

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