ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#1 Feb 25, 2012
Got a mailing from the Flanagan camp today pushing "Best candidate for the Pro-Life movement". I support his right to personal thoughts but not when it comes to making decisions for the public based on his backers and personal religious beliefs. We not only have freedon OF religion but freedom FROM religion.
Citizen

Laceys Spring, AL

#2 Feb 26, 2012
What are you talking about Thomas? Why do you need freedom from religion? I dont see anywhere on the flyer that says Hugh will be coming to your house to preach to you. Why do you have such a problem with religion and religious people?

Are you a bigot? Are you a hypocrit? You want your freedom from religion which is your right but according to you religious people shouldnt have the right to express their views.

You were bashing the people that wanted prayer at the Arab football games if my memory serves me right. So why are you so against religion?

How can someone saying they are pro-life be considered in any shape, form or fashion a statement about religion?

I am going to go out on a limb here and say you are an atheist right? Or do you believe in God but think the church is full of hypocrits? Either way what does it matter? If you dont like our "religion" than keep your mouth shut as I doubt anyone forced you to church today.

Since when does the minority of people get to dictate what the rest of the country does or is allowed to do? If you are a christian and you let people like Thomas and the other anti-christians have thier way and you dont stand up to them when they say that our "religion" infringes on their rights then one day christians will be the minority.
Citizen

Laceys Spring, AL

#3 Feb 26, 2012
I seriously want to hear why you think you need freedom from our religion Thomas. Has someone forced you to go to church or forced religion on you? I mean geez we say a prayer before a ball game, or a nascar race, and you dont like it?

Dont you people see what thee people are doing? If christians were a minority would we get our way if we did the things the people like Thomas and the others that want freedome from religion does things? No we wouldnt they would say that we are just a few people, zealots that want to force our views onto them. But when just one person complains that a prayer at a ball game bothers them then those 1200 or more people have to stop having their prayer just to keep 1 person "safe" from our religion thats not right is it?
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#4 Feb 27, 2012
Citizen wrote:
What are you talking about Thomas? Why do you need freedom from religion? I dont see anywhere on the flyer that says Hugh will be coming to your house to preach to you. Why do you have such a problem with religion and religious people?
Are you a bigot? Are you a hypocrit? You want your freedom from religion which is your right but according to you religious people shouldnt have the right to express their views.
You were bashing the people that wanted prayer at the Arab football games if my memory serves me right. So why are you so against religion?
How can someone saying they are pro-life be considered in any shape, form or fashion a statement about religion?
I am going to go out on a limb here and say you are an atheist right? Or do you believe in God but think the church is full of hypocrits? Either way what does it matter? If you dont like our "religion" than keep your mouth shut as I doubt anyone forced you to church today.
Since when does the minority of people get to dictate what the rest of the country does or is allowed to do? If you are a christian and you let people like Thomas and the other anti-christians have thier way and you dont stand up to them when they say that our "religion" infringes on their rights then one day christians will be the minority.
Every person has a right to his beliefs. We all choose our churches based on our personal choices too. I am a Baptist and your accusation of being anti-Christian is but a feeble attempt to overshadow your self righteousness. A person running for a positition such as a judge can have his personal beliefs for himself and his family BUT when he is sitting on the bench, he is a judge of all the people of all religions and beliefs and should make his decisions based on the merits of each and ever case and not have a pre-determined agenda. To come out and try to lure the vote of the Pro-Life or Anti-Choice or whattever you call it is an attempt to polorize the vote. Can you not see that or is that too much to fathom?
Citizen

Laceys Spring, AL

#5 Feb 27, 2012
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> Every person has a right to his beliefs. We all choose our churches based on our personal choices too. I am a Baptist and your accusation of being anti-Christian is but a feeble attempt to overshadow your self righteousness. A person running for a positition such as a judge can have his personal beliefs for himself and his family BUT when he is sitting on the bench, he is a judge of all the people of all religions and beliefs and should make his decisions based on the merits of each and ever case and not have a pre-determined agenda. To come out and try to lure the vote of the Pro-Life or Anti-Choice or whattever you call it is an attempt to polorize the vote. Can you not see that or is that too much to fathom?
You can interpret Mr Flanagans campaign how ever you want but I dont see how Hugh being pro-life has anything to do with him being a judge. I would say 99% of all Republicans are pro-life. Are you saying that Hugh shouldnt say he is pro-life? If thats the case its his campaign and he can say what ever he likes, all politicians tell the people what ever they want to hear.

As far as me being self righteous, you are taking a big step out on a small limb with that one. Hugh isnt polarizing anything. I doubt he can be beat in the election even if he was pro abortion.

And if you are a Christian how in the world can you be for abortion? But lets keep the abortion debate limited here as I believe there is already a topic on here for the abortion debate.
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#6 Feb 27, 2012
Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>You can interpret Mr Flanagans campaign how ever you want but I dont see how Hugh being pro-life has anything to do with him being a judge. I would say 99% of all Republicans are pro-life. Are you saying that Hugh shouldnt say he is pro-life? If thats the case its his campaign and he can say what ever he likes, all politicians tell the people what ever they want to hear.
As far as me being self righteous, you are taking a big step out on a small limb with that one. Hugh isnt polarizing anything. I doubt he can be beat in the election even if he was pro abortion.
And if you are a Christian how in the world can you be for abortion? But lets keep the abortion debate limited here as I believe there is already a topic on here for the abortion debate.
Since you brought it up,that is another issue that people try to confuse. We can be Pro-Life for ourselves but we do not have the right to force that belief on others. Roe v Wade gives adults the right to make that decision without interference from someone not involved with their lives. To make laws to make people live the way we want them to is just plain wrong! Then you have the folks that preach for no abortions EXCEPT in certain cases. Now just who on this earth is qualified to make that"certain case" call on another person? Should it be a politician or a religious figure. Should it be an elected position or a nominated one. Should in be in line with Biblical teachings and applied to the general public regardless of their beliefs? There is more questions than answers. The Anti-Choice movement is clearly an attack on poor women. Women of financial means will travel to another city or state and have their procedure done while the poor women will be forced to either use an unsafe back alley clinic or a nanny woman with a crochet hook. If they are forced into having the baby, there goes another poor child back to the projects for a life of poverty and abuse and for the taxpayers to raise. Then the cycle starts over.
jan Cook

Birmingham, AL

#7 Feb 27, 2012
The Alabama bill is worse! It requires the doctor to describe, in detail, what is in the image. There are no exclusions for rape victims, ectopic pregnancies, or miscarriages (where the fetus is dead). Oh yes, the chairman of the House Health committee which passed the bill (Greg Reed) is VP of the company that provides most of the ultrasound equipment in the Southeastern region.
jan Cook

Birmingham, AL

#8 Feb 27, 2012
The Alabama bill is worse than that! It requires the doctor to describe, in detail, what is in the image. There are no exclusions for rape victims, ectopic pregnancies, or miscarriages (where the fetus is dead). Oh yes, the chairman of the House Health committee which passed the bill (Greg Reed) is VP of the company that provides most of the ultrasound equipment in the Southeastern region.
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#9 Feb 27, 2012
jan Cook wrote:
The Alabama bill is worse than that! It requires the doctor to describe, in detail, what is in the image. There are no exclusions for rape victims, ectopic pregnancies, or miscarriages (where the fetus is dead). Oh yes, the chairman of the House Health committee which passed the bill (Greg Reed) is VP of the company that provides most of the ultrasound equipment in the Southeastern region.
It's also a matter of a control fetish with some zealots. No matter what the rights,feelings,or moral guidelines dictate, there are "those" who feel their way is the only way. Thats why Roe V Wade was finally passed, to prevent the hodgepodge of local and state laws from infringing on the rights of individuals. Good fences make good neighbors. You stay on your side of the fence and I will stay on mine and I don't want to see your ugly face up on that fence telling me how to run my life!!!!!
Citizen

Laceys Spring, AL

#10 Feb 28, 2012
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> It's also a matter of a control fetish with some zealots. No matter what the rights,feelings,or moral guidelines dictate, there are "those" who feel their way is the only way. Thats why Roe V Wade was finally passed, to prevent the hodgepodge of local and state laws from infringing on the rights of individuals. Good fences make good neighbors. You stay on your side of the fence and I will stay on mine and I don't want to see your ugly face up on that fence telling me how to run my life!!!!!
I agree with you Thomas that good fences do make good neighbors dont they! I alson like the part where you dont want people telling you how to live your life, thats a winner in my book. Now follow yout own advice and let me pray at the high school football games over the loud speaker if I want. Since nobody in the crowd will be holding a gun to you making you listen or participate you can simply look around at all the "zealots" with that have their heads bowed and you can keep on thinking you are better and smarter than the rest of us. So again follow your own advice and dont tell everyone else how to live and we wont make you pray when we do.
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#11 Feb 28, 2012
Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you Thomas that good fences do make good neighbors dont they! I alson like the part where you dont want people telling you how to live your life, thats a winner in my book. Now follow yout own advice and let me pray at the high school football games over the loud speaker if I want. Since nobody in the crowd will be holding a gun to you making you listen or participate you can simply look around at all the "zealots" with that have their heads bowed and you can keep on thinking you are better and smarter than the rest of us. So again follow your own advice and dont tell everyone else how to live and we wont make you pray when we do.
Then allow other religions equal times. When you are in a public facility,you shouldn't be pushing one religion over another. In days of old in small podunk towns in the South, everyone was pretty well raised in one of the many variations of the Christian church. Not so today. That's why these arguments come up when a group tells another group in a public gathering that it's our way or nothing. Same with prayer in schools. How do you set forth rules to implement and regulate a state ordered prayer? How do you require Jewish,Catholic, Morman or agnostic teachers to lead prayers that are against their teachings. Here again, there's more questions than answers.
Citizen

Laceys Spring, AL

#12 Feb 28, 2012
Thomas the last time I checked the Catholics, Jews, Mormons and Baptists all prayed to the same God. Just goes to show that you are not truelly a christian but a liberal pro-death(pro-abortion), atheist hiding under the guise of a Christian. So everything you say is skewed and outright lies.

Do the muslims let us have christian prayers at their events? No. So like I said if you dont like prayer in public dont pray when everyone else is. Why do the majority of people have to give up their rights when one or two people dont want prayers in public? Can anyone tell me that?

What if Christians were the minority and there were onyl two christians in a stadium of 1200 people would all those atheists let us have our way, you know to be fair like you are wanting the christians to be with the atheists? I dont think so, they would say the majority rules.
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#13 Feb 28, 2012
Citizen wrote:
Thomas the last time I checked the Catholics, Jews, Mormons and Baptists all prayed to the same God. Just goes to show that you are not truelly a christian but a liberal pro-death(pro-abortion), atheist hiding under the guise of a Christian. So everything you say is skewed and outright lies.
Do the muslims let us have christian prayers at their events? No. So like I said if you dont like prayer in public dont pray when everyone else is. Why do the majority of people have to give up their rights when one or two people dont want prayers in public? Can anyone tell me that?
What if Christians were the minority and there were onyl two christians in a stadium of 1200 people would all those atheists let us have our way, you know to be fair like you are wanting the christians to be with the atheists? I dont think so, they would say the majority rules.
Your assumptions show you tend to grab at anything. I was raised in a Baptist church in a farm community where it was the only church around for many miles. You got christened,baptized,married,li ved your life and got buried out back when your time came. The school teachers were also your Sunday school teachers. The principal was the head deacon. We lived in our own little world until young people ventured out in the real world where other people shared other thoughts and religions. It was a hard lesson to believe that others had a difference of opinion other than what I was raised on. That's where we are today. There are still those with the "my way or nothing" mentality that are intollerant of any other people around them that don't meet their standards. Sound familiar?
Citizen

Laceys Spring, AL

#14 Feb 29, 2012
That doesnt sound familiar to me. Sorry you didnt like living in your little town or what ever has mad you into the bitter person you are. The fact is you want to have things your way and not let others do the same. I am finished with you on this topic as you never answer any of my rebutals with anything other than spin, lies or a flat out seg way into how you were an oppressed child.
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#15 Feb 29, 2012
Citizen wrote:
That doesnt sound familiar to me. Sorry you didnt like living in your little town or what ever has mad you into the bitter person you are. The fact is you want to have things your way and not let others do the same. I am finished with you on this topic as you never answer any of my rebutals with anything other than spin, lies or a flat out seg way into how you were an oppressed child.
The world will change around you whether you like it or not. Blue laws are abolished,towns go wet,politicians are held responsible for their actions, and Roe v Wade takes control of woman's bodies out of the hands of people who no right to be involved in whatever decision is made. We can all look at the days of The Waltons, Ozzie & Harriet,Leave It To Beaver,Father Knows Best,and Andy Griffith, but those days of the perfect life never really existed even though some people still try to live in that make believe world. Good Night John-Boy!
ThomasAhole

Laceys Spring, AL

#16 Feb 29, 2012
My name is Thomas and all I do is go blah, blah, blah. I dont know how to debate I can only hurl made up statistics and names at people. I also get mad when I cant win an argument and I will change the topic of conversation to something that is totally differant just so I can rant. Good night John-Boy!
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#17 Feb 29, 2012
ThomasAhole wrote:
My name is Thomas and all I do is go blah, blah, blah. I dont know how to debate I can only hurl made up statistics and names at people. I also get mad when I cant win an argument and I will change the topic of conversation to something that is totally differant just so I can rant. Good night John-Boy!
Statistics? What statistics? Quell your rambling and explain.

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