Mississippi judge jails attorney for not reciting Pledge of Allegiance

A Mississippi judge jailed a lawyer for several hours for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, ordering the attorney to "purge himself" of contempt by standing and repeating the oath like the rest of the courtroom. Full Story

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#1930 Apr 1, 2013
anon wrote:
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War machines never are built to help people.
Surely you can't be so myopic! War machines always help those who built them and exploit them!! Always has....and always will. Your "self proclaimed wisdom of the world" won't change that fact, son. Sorry....I just doesn't work that way. The world doesn't look through your prism.....even if you think it would be better if they did. Wise up!
Takwanzah Miller

Shreveport, LA

#1931 Apr 5, 2013
I have to go poop. I ate some enchiladas now I have bad tummy aches and gas that would kill a dog!
finder

Tupelo, MS

#1932 Apr 5, 2013
mentul_autocrat wrote:
<quoted text> i love the "one nation under god" and people scream that this country wasn't founded on Christian beliefs.
It was added in the 1950's during the cold war. Our founders were not all Christians. Like Jefferson and Thomas Paine many disagreed with religion and banned it from government.

It is public school that brainwashed the children with myths like Thanksgiving that created a belief that the U.S. is Christian.

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

George County, MS. USA

#1933 Apr 5, 2013
We hear liberals trumpet the “establishment” clause of the Constitution, which reads,“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” This is their defense for why no state can establish a religion.

But what is “Congress”? When you head down to your state’s capitol building, do you say you’re going to Congress? If you do, you’re using the word incorrectly.“Congress” only ever refers to the federal legislature, not to those of states. The “establishment” clause says only that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, and says nothing about the states. If the Founders did not want states establishing religions, this “establishment” clause probably would have been the place to say it, perhaps with the words,“Neither Congress nor the states….”

Still, many people, Republicans included, deny the fact that only the federal government is prohibited from establishing a religion. They act as if a state religion would mean you are not allowed to be whatever religion you want, that it’s not just a formal respect of a region’s heritage. But you don’t have to like the “establishment” clause to acknowledge that it actually does say what it says.

Read more: http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/04/why-north...
O Ye of Little Thought

Booneville, MS

#1934 Apr 5, 2013
Definition of Congress as provided by every last entry on Google that defines congress : https://www.google.com/search...

Looks like your precept is wrong.

Let me ask you, if those who trumpet the establishment clause of the Constitution are liberal idiots... what does that make the people who put that clause in the Constitution?

As far as states being allowed to make a state sponsored religion, I disagree with you on the grounds of Engel v. Vitale in 1962, Abington Township v. Schempp in 1963, Wallace v. Jaffree in 1986, Lee v. Weisman in 1990, Santa Fe Independent School Dist. v. Doe in 2000, Glassroth v. Moore in 2003, Allegheny County v. Greater Pittsburgh ACLU in 1989, McCreary County v. ACLU of Kentucky in 2005, and many more. The Supreme Court and many, many other high ranking courts have repeatedly ruled that any state trying to promote any religious affiliation or respect is unconstitutional.

In what is obviously your limited understanding of the United States governmental process, you cite Congress but fail to cite the other two branches of the US Government system. While Congress can pass literally anything they want, there's another branch called the Judicial branch that can strike them down willy nilly as well. The judicial branch of the US Government has repeatedly said that it is not legal for a state to promote religion, so your incessant rambling about Congress is only half true and intentionally withholding the full picture in order to paint a lie as a truth.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#1935 Apr 5, 2013
Scoop wrote:
Its the law, attorneys must obey the law. And the Judge runs his/her courtroom the way he/she sees fit to a point. The Pledge of allegiance is the most important thing we must have as it is the last chance we get before outlawing that.
Actually, the Pledge of Allegiance, is the gift of progressive socialists, Like Obama. If you're a conservative, you're against the pledge...if you're a conservative and you're for the pledge, then either you're wrong, or you just simply don't know that you're a progressive socialist.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#1936 Apr 5, 2013
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/w...

"It’s probably too much to ask politicians to reflect a little before they lunge for a political hot-button issue. But any conservatives so inclined should think about what they’re defending. What’s so conservative about the Pledge?

Very little, as it turns out. From its inception, in 1892, the Pledge has been a slavish ritual of devotion to the state, wholly inappropriate for a free people. It was written by Francis Bellamy, a Christian Socialist pushed out of his post as a Baptist minister for delivering pulpit-pounding sermons on such topics as “Jesus the Socialist.” Bellamy was devoted to the ideas of his more-famous cousin Edward Bellamy, author of the 1888 utopian novel Looking Backward. Looking Backward describes the future United States as a regimented worker’s paradise where everyone has equal incomes, and men are drafted into the country’s “industrial army” at the age of 21, serving in the jobs assigned them by the state. Bellamy’s novel was extremely popular, selling more copies than other any 19th century American novel except Uncle Tom’s Cabin. Bellamy’s book inspired a movement of “Nationalist Clubs,” whose members campaigned for a government takeover of the economy. A few years before he wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, Francis Bellamy became a founding member of Boston’s first Nationalist Club."
maestro

Tupelo, MS

#1937 Apr 6, 2013
" War machines always help those who built them and exploit them!! "
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There are no winners in war only one loses more than th other. Freedom is almost always lost.
korre

Booneville, MS

#1938 Apr 6, 2013
I have to disagree, maestro. Every war I know of had a winner other than the Korean war of the 1950s, and the only reason that didn't have a winner is because that war is still ongoing. A cease fire was called but the war was not declared over.

Otherwise, every war in history I've ever heard of had a winner and a loser.

As well, I'm not sure how freedom is almost always lost when more wars are fought to obtain freedom than for any other reason. Please elaborate.
maestro

Tupelo, MS

#1939 Apr 6, 2013
" Please elaborate"
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Tell those that died what they won and tell those that had to follow orders about their freedom.
korre

Booneville, MS

#1940 Apr 6, 2013
It's impossible to tell people who are dead anything, so I'll ignore that bit of silliness.

Those who had to follow orders were free to make the choice to follow someone else's orders. There's no draft, and our army is volunteer. So, I'm not following you about how they lost freedom.

Again, please elaborate, and this time do so without rampant silliness.
maestro

Tupelo, MS

#1941 Apr 6, 2013
"Those who had to follow orders were free to make the choice to follow someone else's orders. "
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No such freedom is in he military. You are punished. History shows war has one loser more than the other.
korre

Booneville, MS

#1942 Apr 6, 2013
You're free to join the military or not join the military in the first place. Before you join, you accept that you're going to follow someone else's orders. You willingly give that up. It's not forced upon you.

If you believe that any time you take an order from someone else you are losing your freedoms, are you saying that you are intentionally unemployed, maestro?
maestro

Tupelo, MS

#1943 Apr 6, 2013
Jobs are for slaves. Being independent you do not slave for a boss. Surviving does not need a job or government support and control.

All you need is to be creative. It also helps to be educated. You can get a fantastic education for free at the library.
Rod Knox

Tupelo, MS

#1944 Apr 6, 2013
Apparently your military career was as a REMF, korre. Good for you. You can tell all the mothers and fathers and wives and children of those who came home somewhat less than they left, or came home in a bag, that their family member knew what they were signing up for. Wave your flag korre.

And some of us didn't volunteer but found ourselves following orders.
korre

Booneville, MS

#1945 Apr 6, 2013
Maestro - I have little use for discussion with someone who intentionally is unemployed, did not serve in the military, and bitches about the whole thing while sitting at the library because he can't afford the proper equipment and services to bitch from home. Good day.

Rod Knox - I am sorry that you experienced what you did almost 40 years ago. I too think it was terrible that our government forced young men and women to die for a war that was never intended to be won.

If you'll excuse me, I need to do the physical therapy stuff they told me to do when I lost my leg in the sandbox. That whole REMF thing seems to have not helped me much. Here I thought that being REMF meant I'd never see action. Turns out that it means I'd have to be point man over and over.

Well, you know, that or it's just that you're dead wrong.
Rod Knox

Tupelo, MS

#1946 Apr 6, 2013
The bluster sometimes fades with time, korre. And the VA's support often fades with Republican War Hawks protecting themselves and their friends and letting their promises to veterans fade. I won't be here in 40 years but if the Republicans have their way the rats will own all the VA hospitals when you look back on that many years. Good luck.
misc fyi

Toronto, Canada

#1947 Apr 6, 2013
maestro

Tupelo, MS

#1948 Apr 7, 2013
"Well, you know, that or it's just that you're dead wrong."

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And you are so sure you did the best thing? Who do you think pays for your VA treatments us unemployed that make our own living without the need of a boss. There are many more ways of contributing to the economy without being employed for someone else. Sorry you had such poor government schooling that you never opened your eyes to the real world that sees the manipulation. Yes it is painful to see your own lack of education was your own doing.
Staying at home locks you away from the other ideas. What makes you think I can not afford anything? I learned how to have much more value than the military could provide.

If you lived during the Vietnam days you would of thought twice about believing the Government cares about you.
korre

Booneville, MS

#1949 Apr 7, 2013
Conspiracy nutter, Maestro?

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