Guilford Votes To Borrow $15.5 Million To Buy Tidal Marsh

Jan 29, 2009 Read more: Hartford Courant 19
A well-organized effort to get out the vote by the Guilford Land Conservation Trust and others paid off: The measure passed 2,645 to 486. Read more
FAV

East Hartford, CT

#1 Jan 29, 2009
Cheers to the citizens of Guilford for saving this choice piece of shoreland for future generations. That they would vote so overwhelmingly during these hard times for such a costly purchase is remarkable. May I feign a thank you as spokesman for the wildlife that will continue to enjoy that land for a long time.
Get real

Pawcatuck, CT

#2 Jan 29, 2009
And the Goss family got possession of this land from whom and when?
Mrs Smith

New Hartford, CT

#3 Jan 29, 2009
Awesome, forward-thinking act on the part of the townspeople of Guilford.

The predators who sold the land, however, were willing to burden their neighbors with 100 homes and the tax burdens that go with such development. A couple of million was not enough.

Nice people. Not.

Take your blood money and get the helll out of town.
John

Guilford, CT

#4 Jan 29, 2009
Some of the fact are a little off but this is the gist of what happened. The impact on tax bills won't begin for at least 2 years, maybe longer. In addition to land owned by Audubon to the south, the land trust significant land to the north. Guilford residents should be proud of what they accomplished. This was the best outcome there could have been - fiscally and environmentally. Smart town.
Uncle Buck

United States

#5 Jan 29, 2009
Outstanding - we used to swim in the East river as kids. We would jump off a section of I-95 (Madison) into the river and horrify people driving by on the inter-state!
Uncle Buck

United States

#6 Jan 29, 2009
Get real
Canton, CT
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And the Goss family got possession of this land from whom and when?

Probably from the Hammonassett Indians in exchange for the parking revenues at Hammonasset Park State Beach. For once the Indians won!
Voiceover

Colchester, CT

#7 Jan 29, 2009
Mrs Smith wrote:
Awesome, forward-thinking act on the part of the townspeople of Guilford.
The predators who sold the land, however, were willing to burden their neighbors with 100 homes and the tax burdens that go with such development. A couple of million was not enough.
Nice people. Not.
Take your blood money and get the helll out of town.
Shame on you! It is their property and they have the right to do as they please. This was a business transaction not a charity case - they didn't owe the town a thing. Let's applaud the sellers for doing the right thing. And perhaps you should stay in New Hartford.

Since: Jul 08

Southington

#8 Jan 29, 2009
I guess times are not as tough as everyone thinks. fifteen million dollars. More debt strapped to the taxpayer.
John

Guilford, CT

#9 Jan 29, 2009
It's funny what some people think they understand about economics. Keeping open space for a town's recreational use and environmental quality makes the town a nicer place to live. When people want to live in your town, the value of your house goes up. Even if you don't watch birds, your house value goes up. This is smart planning for the long term.
JKA Guilford CT

Boston, MA

#10 Jan 29, 2009
The town and the local land trust have been very proactive about acquiring open space. It is one of the reasons I live here.
Dale Carson

AOL

#11 Jan 29, 2009
It would be nice to see the citizens of next door neighbor to Guilford in Madison develop such a wise, thoughtful plan to save
the tidal marshes and sacred land of the former Griswold Airport.
a reader

Brooklyn, NY

#12 Jan 29, 2009
Voiceover wrote:
<quoted text>
Shame on you! It is their property and they have the right to do as they please. This was a business transaction not a charity case - they didn't owe the town a thing. Let's applaud the sellers for doing the right thing. And perhaps you should stay in New Hartford.
Shame on you. You are back in some ignorant time warp when people started to ignore their community and get whatever they could out of everything... when Entitlement rose up as an "American" value. You are a "charity case" of a different sort.
Gottamention

Hamden, CT

#13 Jan 29, 2009
Congrats. Great save! We need to do more save what is left of CT from the McMansions, unnecessary subdivisions and rampant retail sprawl.
doityourselfweat her com

East Berlin, CT

#14 Jan 29, 2009
Where does "courage" fit into this?!

Since: Jul 08

Southington

#15 Jan 30, 2009
I still disagree. It is not governments job to save the world. Fifteen million dollars is alot of money. Maybe to you it's a drop in the bucket. Do you have any comception about how much debt has been handed to your children?Grandchildren? Try 700 Billion by the bushettes and now over 800 billion by the Obamanites. one trillion 500 billion dollars and now every state AND every town including your 15 million is adding to a problem that will just kill a generation or two somewhere.
You call this proactive? Cheers to the citizens? This was the best outcome there could have been - fiscally and environmentally. Smart town? Awesome, forward-thinking? Have any of you figured out that a trillion plus 15 million equals your screwed? No probably not. Oh what am I thinking... Its for the kids, Right? The future, right?
No this is how you screw the pooch.
John

Guilford, CT

#16 Jan 30, 2009
Mr. Do It Yourself asks where courage fits in. I think it takes courage not to listen to short-sighted naysayers like Rush10 - who don't even understand what the town actually did. It wasn't the "government" who took this action - it was the voters. And the "burden" on the taxpayers is both light and time-limited. The greater burden would have been if the land was fully developed. Calculations revealed that full development would result in a NET LOSS for the town. Get it? IT WOULD COST MORE TO DEVELOP IT THAN TO KEEP IT AS OPEN SPACE. Throwing around broad generalization about burdening our kids and big brother government decisions is not what will move our civilization forward. Math helps. Fresh air and water help. Quality of life helps too. You can't convince everyone that these land purchases are good decisions - but, in Guilford, the voters get it: 5 to 1.
doityourselfweat her com

Sandy Hook, CT

#17 Jan 30, 2009
John wrote:
Mr. Do It Yourself asks where courage fits in. I think it takes courage not to listen to short-sighted naysayers like Rush10 - who don't even understand what the town actually did. It wasn't the "government" who took this action - it was the voters. And the "burden" on the taxpayers is both light and time-limited. The greater burden would have been if the land was fully developed. Calculations revealed that full development would result in a NET LOSS for the town. Get it? IT WOULD COST MORE TO DEVELOP IT THAN TO KEEP IT AS OPEN SPACE. Throwing around broad generalization about burdening our kids and big brother government decisions is not what will move our civilization forward. Math helps. Fresh air and water help. Quality of life helps too. You can't convince everyone that these land purchases are good decisions - but, in Guilford, the voters get it: 5 to 1.
I asked a question. A simple answer without the moronic ad hominems would have sufficed.

Since: Jul 08

Southington

#18 Jan 30, 2009
The first line says you voted to borrow. So what are the terms? Twenty years. Thirty years? Fifteen million is not light. It would cost the town nothing to develop it. All the wetlands would end up with the town for free after the developer was finished. Free is better than fifteen million. So brain child this will be turned into a park and YOU will not collect any taxes on it and you will pay to have park and rec clean it mow it and the highway department to plow it. So really you and the town and all the intelligent voters are going to save nothing. Once your government has it they will not just let it set there. Believe me this will cost you MORE in the long run. oh and my screen name is are you shten me
John wrote:
Mr. Do It Yourself asks where courage fits in. I think it takes courage not to listen to short-sighted naysayers like Rush10 - who don't even understand what the town actually did. It wasn't the "government" who took this action - it was the voters. And the "burden" on the taxpayers is both light and time-limited. The greater burden would have been if the land was fully developed. Calculations revealed that full development would result in a NET LOSS for the town. Get it? IT WOULD COST MORE TO DEVELOP IT THAN TO KEEP IT AS OPEN SPACE. Throwing around broad generalization about burdening our kids and big brother government decisions is not what will move our civilization forward. Math helps. Fresh air and water help. Quality of life helps too. You can't convince everyone that these land purchases are good decisions - but, in Guilford, the voters get it: 5 to 1.
Xxx

Guilford, CT

#21 Sep 21, 2013
When we will find out we don't need to spend all this money!!really 60 cops new police vehicles really all they do is sit around at like sachem hollow and do nothing!! Us tax payers pay there salary and they don't do much at all!! New SUVs new cameras common people is this now new haven get rid of all of them except 20 and 4 cars and our taxes will go way down

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