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becoming a Christian.

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how do you know

Grundy, VA

#1 Nov 3, 2012
I am just asking a sincere question. I am not going to state what I believe or don't believe. All the talk of the elections and such, some says they are Christians, yet they vote for and support abortion. Since this site is "almost" anono. could someone please tell me how a Christian can support abortion? I am not trying to argue, I am just curious. Can I become a CHristian and still believe that way?
Delano

United States

#2 Nov 3, 2012
how do you know wrote:
I am just asking a sincere question. I am not going to state what I believe or don't believe. All the talk of the elections and such, some says they are Christians, yet they vote for and support abortion. Since this site is "almost" anono. could someone please tell me how a Christian can support abortion? I am not trying to argue, I am just curious. Can I become a CHristian and still believe that way?
They vote for and support personal choice and personal conscience. They believe in personal freedom and choice and the responsibility that goes with that.

Most of the pro-choice supporter are personally opposed to abortion but feel that this is a very personal matter that the Government or "The Church" has no business in.

The most important of all the governmental principles is the "Separation of Church and State". The Republicans seem to have forgotten this. I do not want your religious beliefs to tread on my personal freedoms.

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honestly

Hyattsville, MD

#3 Nov 3, 2012
it all comes down to what you believe.politics and religion choose one.if you really feel you are a christian then your heart must be socialist.not dem or rep.JESUS said give that goes against every thing in this campaign,for either candidate.all you hear on this site from you self-called christians is hate filled greed.if you claim you are rep.then your cadidate wants to take every thing that the poor are getting to live on.do any of you jackoffs ever even read that black book you have laying around(bible)JESUS taught give all you have to the poor,isn't that exactly opposite what romneys platform is.he wants every thing to be given to the rich.on the other hand obama is for equal rights for gays and abortion which are both anti christian.seems to me neither one has good values and should not be voted for.real christians ought to be able to recognize the devil.i see him on both sides what do you see?are you even looking?do you even frigging care?i think not,all they want to do is squabble over which party is better.you are so ignorant and one day maybe you will see that there is no difference between us color race religion political preference we are all just men.the candidates all will run the country different than what they promise.dont vote dem just because dad did.dont vote rep because your stupid ass pastor went rogue political in the pulpit and wants you to vote rep.that should not matter either way because we are screwed either way.
hey hey

Oakwood, VA

#4 Nov 3, 2012
no, honestly Romney thinks we should work for what we have not sit on our asses and mooch off the working people!
hey hey

Oakwood, VA

#5 Nov 3, 2012
the Bible speaks of laziness and it also speaks of queers. its written pretty plain if you open your eyes and not just read what you want to read.
Ahem

Grundy, VA

#6 Nov 3, 2012
hey hey wrote:
no, honestly Romney thinks we should work for what we have not sit on our asses and mooch off the working people!
My Bible says its easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven. Makes it all pretty confusing doesn't it??? So as Christians should we elect someone who's going to hell??? Or do the rich have a gated community somewhere in the afterlife???
heres your sign

Grundy, VA

#7 Nov 3, 2012
How can a Christian vote in someone who will senselessly bomb MORE people?
hey hey

Oakwood, VA

#8 Nov 3, 2012
1)and whats the definition of rich? mmmmm. 2)and the Bible speaks of wars
yoyo

Port Republic, VA

#9 Nov 3, 2012
Ahem wrote:
<quoted text>My Bible says its easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven. Makes it all pretty confusing doesn't it??? So as Christians should we elect someone who's going to hell??? Or do the rich have a gated community somewhere in the afterlife???
The Bible also says "be not partakers of other mens sins"
wHat

Grundy, VA

#10 Nov 3, 2012
To be impartial , alot of this is found in the King James version.

But what Christian can vote for a candidate, who's founder got their belief from a Angel named Moroni , he's not even mentioned in the King James Bible.

Michael the Archangel , was Angel who fought a battle with Satan.

Gabriel is the Messenger of God , and seen by Daniel in Daniel 10:13, 21. Gabriel speaks to Mary in Luke 1:19 , and makes physical contact with someone in Daniel 9:21.

Satan was also an Angel before he fell, but some religions have him being the Spirit brother of Jesus, hmmm, can't find this in but one book , the Book of Mormon.

Seems some love investing in Chinese companies, and killing American jobs. Look up Global Tech for Mitt Romney.

In 2009 and 2010, the W. Mitt Romney blind trust invested $77,262 in shares of Cnooc Limited, the state-owned Chinese oil company, and Industrial and Commercial Bank of China.

The Romney family trusts invested around the world. It also owned shares in Credit Suisse, the Swiss bank; FLSmidth, a Danish machinery company; Arcelormittal, a steel company based in Luxembourg with operations around the world, and Komatsu, a Japanese machinery company. All those investments were sold on Aug. 10, the day before a Republican debate in Iowa.

How much of Romney's millions are invested in American companies.

His company, Bain Cpaital, helped send a car sensor parts company named Sensata, shipped overseas, to China. Some are familiar names, like KB Toys; others are less well-known, except to the people whose lives were affected — companies like Ampad, DDi, Dade and GST Steel.

What’s more, a federal government insurance agency had to pony up $44-million to bail out the GST Steel's underfunded pension plan. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12-million on its $8-million initial investment and at least $4.5-million in consulting fees.

Mitt Romney was pro-choice and when running for Governor, and pro-life when running for President. He lost a relative to infection from an abortion, and was againist them, and now pro-life. Which lie do we believe????
preach it

Grundy, VA

#11 Nov 3, 2012
honestly wrote:
it all comes down to what you believe.politics and religion choose one.if you really feel you are a christian then your heart must be socialist.not dem or rep.JESUS said give that goes against every thing in this campaign,for either candidate.all you hear on this site from you self-called christians is hate filled greed.if you claim you are rep.then your cadidate wants to take every thing that the poor are getting to live on.do any of you jackoffs ever even read that black book you have laying around(bible)JESUS taught give all you have to the poor,isn't that exactly opposite what romneys platform is.he wants every thing to be given to the rich.on the other hand obama is for equal rights for gays and abortion which are both anti christian.seems to me neither one has good values and should not be voted for.real christians ought to be able to recognize the devil.i see him on both sides what do you see?are you even looking?do you even frigging care?i think not,all they want to do is squabble over which party is better.you are so ignorant and one day maybe you will see that there is no difference between us color race religion political preference we are all just men.the candidates all will run the country different than what they promise.dont vote dem just because dad did.dont vote rep because your stupid ass pastor went rogue political in the pulpit and wants you to vote rep.that should not matter either way because we are screwed either way.
I agree 100%
christeen

New Hope, VA

#12 Nov 3, 2012
Mitt Romney is a mormon = CULT ..NOT christain
trash

Oakwood, VA

#13 Nov 4, 2012
obama= muslem
trash

Oakwood, VA

#14 Nov 4, 2012
goes to show you know nothing about the Mormon religion, lol doesnt surprise me. all you people know is long dresses and stringy hair. get with the century.
Heathen

Grundy, VA

#15 Nov 4, 2012
How to spread atheism in 10 easy steps.

1. Go after your family: It’s easy to shove atheism down the throats of family members. Make your family a captive audience, especially children. Don’t let your children question atheism. Ban them from going to church or playing with religious children. Hinge important privileges like computer time or time with friends on them going to atheist meetups with you. Let them know that no theist is part of your family. Teach them that all theists lack morals. Withhold your love and affection from your theistic child. Punish them severely and physically if you catch them reading any theistic material or engaging in anything theistic.

2. Go after the children in schools: Children in schools are another captive audience. Make sure your school recites The Atheist Mantra during the morning announcements, daily. Make the children pledge allegiance to godlessness. Invite atheist speakers to give presentations during school assemblies about the virtues of godlessness and the vice of theism. Hang quotes about the evils of the Christian god in the hallways.

3. Go after language: Use language to marginalize theism. Tell people that theism is a slap in the face to this great nation. Define theism and atheism in moral terms: atheists are moral, theists are immoral. If theists try to work toward having more rights, say that giving them rights will take away your religious freedom.

4. Go after public buildings or objects: Carve the atheist manifesto in marble on public buildings, especially buildings of law such as courthouses. Print “There are no gods” on all of the currency in your country.

5. Go after laws. Make sure the laws of your country reflect only atheist ideals. Example: atheist marriage is traditional marriage. Make sure your government does not recognize marriage between two Christians. In fact, ban theistic marriage.

6. Go after inclusiveness: Don’t let children form theistic clubs at schools. Loudly proclaim that atheism is the only right choice and the only way. Rip the Jesus fish off of people’s cars. Don’t allow theist’s children in the boy scouts. This is a rather passive-aggressive tactic, but it works.

7. Straight up make atheism the only legal choice: This one sounds simple, but you have to be willing to grossly violate human rights. Make theism illegal. Punish people who engage in theism with death or imprisonment. While you’re at it, make it illegal to worship people or governments. Make it illegal to make fun of Christopher Hitchens.

8. Atheistmas: Make sure that the cultural trappings of your favorite Atheist Holidays are all but inescapable. If you own a business, play the same 20 Atheistmas songs over their loudspeakers for at least a month, preferably two. Call it persecution and anti-atheist bigotry if even private businesses and individuals who aren’t atheist decline to loudly recognize your atheist holidays. If some businesses choose to advertise with the words “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Atheistmas”, or some public spaces include holiday displays from non-atheist positions or even religious displays, call this the “War on Atheistmas”. Organize boycotts until businesses place exclusive emphasis on Atheistmas. After all, atheism is the reason for the season.

9. Consistently confuse the line between neutrality and persecution. Claim that any act of neutrality toward atheism is actually an act of theism. If theists want our atheist manifesto removed from the courthouse, claim they are making our courthouse theistic. If theists want us to stop making children recite the Atheist Mantra in schools, claim they are making our schools theistic.

10. Go door to door: Canvass neighborhoods, knocking on doors, so you can tell people the good news about godlessness while they stand awkwardly in the doorway.
know

New Hope, VA

#16 Nov 4, 2012
trash wrote:
goes to show you know nothing about the Mormon religion, lol doesnt surprise me. all you people know is long dresses and stringy hair. get with the century.
I know, I have relatives that are Mormons - good people - good club for men bad for women- I would call it a cult- They would never agree with that. I love them,but would never want my daughter to marry one... Yes, I have been to their services with them- not for me..
Christian mom

Grundy, VA

#17 Nov 5, 2012
Ahem wrote:
<quoted text>My Bible says its easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven. Makes it all pretty confusing doesn't it??? So as Christians should we elect someone who's going to hell??? Or do the rich have a gated community somewhere in the afterlife???
It is not the money that is going to keep the rich out of heaven. It is how they make it and how they chose to live while they have it ! Money makes it hard to see the right thing to do sometimes ! Just because Romney has money doesnot in any way mean he is going to Hell... No one but the good Lord above can know that !
reality checker

Washington, DC

#18 Nov 5, 2012
my bible says the saints will judge the world.how would they judge either candidate?myself all i see in romney is a rich spoiled little bastard.alli see in obama is a rich spoiled little bastard.there is no difference in the two when they get elected you see they dont really run this country anyway and the election is for show to keep the sheep happy and make them think they still make a difference.you party sympathizers are all stupid blind fools and you will see tomorrow.
Bro jim

Grundy, VA

#19 Nov 5, 2012
Ahem wrote:
<quoted text>My Bible says its easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven. Makes it all pretty confusing doesn't it??? So as Christians should we elect someone who's going to hell??? Or do the rich have a gated community somewhere in the afterlife???
The reference it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter into the kingdom of Heaven is symbolic not litteral. Most of the cities in biblical times had a small gate in the surrounding wall called the Needle's eye, in order to get a camel through the "eye of the needle" after the gates were shut after a certain time in the evening the men had to unpack their camels and make the camels kneel down and litteraly crawl through this opening, thus the meaning of this parable.
Phil mycrackin

Grundy, VA

#20 Nov 5, 2012
wHat wrote:
To be impartial , alot of this is found in the King James version.
But what Christian can vote for a candidate, who's founder got their belief from a Angel named Moroni , he's not even mentioned in the King James Bible.
Michael the Archangel , was Angel who fought a battle with Satan.
Gabriel is the Messenger of God , and seen by Daniel in Daniel 10:13, 21. Gabriel speaks to Mary in Luke 1:19 , and makes physical contact with someone in Daniel 9:21.
Satan was also an Angel before he fell, but some religions have him being the Spirit brother of Jesus, hmmm, can't find this in but one book , the Book of Mormon.
Seems some love investing in Chinese companies, and killing American jobs. Look up Global Tech for Mitt Romney.
In 2009 and 2010, the W. Mitt Romney blind trust invested $77,262 in shares of Cnooc Limited, the state-owned Chinese oil company, and Industrial and Commercial Bank of China.
The Romney family trusts invested around the world. It also owned shares in Credit Suisse, the Swiss bank; FLSmidth, a Danish machinery company; Arcelormittal, a steel company based in Luxembourg with operations around the world, and Komatsu, a Japanese machinery company. All those investments were sold on Aug. 10, the day before a Republican debate in Iowa.
How much of Romney's millions are invested in American companies.
His company, Bain Cpaital, helped send a car sensor parts company named Sensata, shipped overseas, to China. Some are familiar names, like KB Toys; others are less well-known, except to the people whose lives were affected — companies like Ampad, DDi, Dade and GST Steel.
What’s more, a federal government insurance agency had to pony up $44-million to bail out the GST Steel's underfunded pension plan. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12-million on its $8-million initial investment and at least $4.5-million in consulting fees.
Mitt Romney was pro-choice and when running for Governor, and pro-life when running for President. He lost a relative to infection from an abortion, and was againist them, and now pro-life. Which lie do we believe????
Obama has investments in overseas area's also, so what's your point? Obama probably has investments in the middle east where terrorists have training camps. The democrats are just like the republican's, tell one lie after the other!

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