Methadone Clinic in Buchanan County

Methadone Clinic in Buchanan County

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wonderment

New Hope, VA

#1 May 21, 2010
What do you all think about having a methadone clinic in Buchanan County? I know there are pros and cons to everything and this is no different. In my opinion here are some of each:

PROS:
Helps stop the spread of HIV/AIDS, Hepatitis, etc.
People are less likely to have to steal to obtain treatment.
People are able to keep and maintain a job.
It's legal so you won't go to jail and end up worse off.

CONS:
It's still a drug and the patient goes from being addicted to one drug to another.
People can take their "take home" methadone and sell it to others for a higher price.
Methadone is a dangerous drug with long term ill health effects.

So what do you all think?
Little Bill

Port Republic, VA

#2 May 21, 2010
How about a Whorehouse and a Biker Bar ro complement the Methadone Clinic? Then we could add a Titty Bar and a Tattoo/Piercing Parlor! Grundy could boom! Who needs a Walmart?
wonderment

New Hope, VA

#3 May 21, 2010
Little Bill wrote:
How about a Whorehouse and a Biker Bar ro complement the Methadone Clinic? Then we could add a Titty Bar and a Tattoo/Piercing Parlor! Grundy could boom! Who needs a Walmart?
I don't see a problem with having some bars but the first thing you mentioned won't happen. Prostitution is not yet legal in the state of Virginia.
GrimReaper

Grundy, VA

#4 May 21, 2010
well its not like there isn't already a bunch of people here on meth anyways. You cna put your head in the sand and pretend its not true all you want. Oh and bars and clubs are that bad a thing to have. At least the drunks stay in one spot for most of the evening and stay out trouble for the most part. I live in places with bar and titty bars it not that bad and normally there are a lot of other things around too. And there are whores here already too sorry reality sucks I know.
Little Bill

Port Republic, VA

#5 May 21, 2010
wonderment wrote:
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I don't see a problem with having some bars but the first thing you mentioned won't happen. Prostitution is not yet legal in the state of Virginia.
It may not be legal, but neither is reselling the Methadone, and I will bet you that a lot of it would be sold!! And anyway, a good Whorehouse never lets a little thing like the law get in the way of good business. And another thing, some of the female patrons of the Methadone Clinic could get better paying jobs than the minimum wage jobs they are stuck with after being tagged as Methadone users.
Not Way

United States

#6 May 21, 2010
Ask Tazewell County, they would love to get rid of the one they have...it is not a true clinic..all they do is dispense out the methadone and when you have been there long enough they give you take home meds. That is when they head to McDonalds to trade or sell the methadone...watch for sharps when you use the bathroom.. Do not need it in Buchanan County
really

United States

#8 May 22, 2010
no, we don't need a clinic in Buchanan Co. it's fine here, ppl are stealing for money, losing there jobs and children, going to jail, drug sales have sky rocketed , but things are great....wake up,, there will never be a perfect solution, so sometimes you have to take the bad to get some good in the end..
GrimReaper

Grundy, VA

#9 May 22, 2010
You seeem to know a lot about the inter workings of whorehouses to be so against them. And as for those girls that can't get a better job because they were labeled. That is their fault. I feel no pity for drug users. They made the choice to use and keep using. Most good paying job do require a drug screening.
regina

Austin, TX

#10 May 22, 2010
Here's what you don't understand about methadone. Everyone makes the same set of assumptions, all wrong--that it just switches addictions, that the patients get high from the medication, that it impairs their ability to drive, work, etc, and that it attracts crime to the area.

Now--first of all, when a person uses opioid drugs, it causes changes in the brain chemistry of the user. The brain ceases to produce natural opiates--endorphins--because it senses there are already plenty on board, so to speak. In long term users this change is often permanent. Additionally, many doctors now believe that a good proportion of opioid addicts had a low endorphin production even before they began using drugs, and that this caused them to be especially vulnerable to opioid addiction, as they sought to "self medicate" this deficiency.

At any rate, when the person ceases to take opioids, they experience severe depression, anxiety, anhedonia (inability to feel pleasure), physical exhaustion and extreme irritability. In those with permanent changes, these symptoms do not dissipate with time--they remain, constantly. Most people cannot tolerate such misery for long, and this drives them to relapse repeatedly as they seek relief. This is behind the incredibly low success rates of abstinence based rehabs.

Methadone works not to replace the drug of choice, but to replace the missing endorphins no longer being produced by the addict's brain. In this sense, it works in the same way that insulin works to replace the insulin no longer being produced by the diabetic pancreas. Another example would be the frequent need to provide lifelong testosterone supplementation to people who have abused anabolic steroids.

Methadone normalizes and stabilizes the brain chemistry WITHOUT causing a high in stable patients. Patients are NOT "getting a legal high", as so many imagine. Though there are always a few who continue to use other drugs while on methadone, these patients do NOT receive take home doses. In fact, to receive take homes, the patients must be in treatment for quite awhile and must meet an 8 point Federal criteria.

Methadone is far and away the most successful method of treatment for opioid addiction available today. It is supported as such by the WHO, NIDA, the NIH and the White House ONDCP, to name just a few. It represents the single best chance for the severely opioid addicted to recover, yet due to the ignorance and lack of information surrounding MMT, prejudice and stigma keep patients from accessing treatment. However, the facts show that methadone clinics LOWER crime, LOWER disease, and do NOT affect property values.

SOme pts. only need short term treatment, but many more require lifelong treatment, due, again, to the permanent brain chemistry changes. Patients now come from all walks of life--over 70% of pts are there for Rx drug addiction, not heroin. Most are employed--many are professionals that you would never dream are MMT patients.

If only people would take the time to REALLY learn about MMT before raising a ruckus based on rumors, lies and bad movies, so many more people might be alive today.
Long John

Grundy, VA

#11 Jun 26, 2010
Its been a couple of years since Tazewell county has tried to run the clinic off,they finaly got there heads out of there asses and figgered out they had a gold mine.
i know

Cedar Bluff, VA

#12 Jun 27, 2010
Long John wrote:
Its been a couple of years since Tazewell county has tried to run the clinic off,they finaly got there heads out of there asses and figgered out they had a gold mine.
yeh thats right all they care about there is money not the pt
true

Grundy, VA

#13 Jun 28, 2010
really wrote:
no, we don't need a clinic in Buchanan Co. it's fine here, ppl are stealing for money, losing there jobs and children, going to jail, drug sales have sky rocketed , but things are great....wake up,, there will never be a perfect solution, so sometimes you have to take the bad to get some good in the end..
I think a methodone clinic would be great for Buchanan County. Those that don't are trying to bury their head in the sand!!
At least they would be treated and trying to stop the addiction, better than staying on drugs and have to steal from the people that don't want a clinic!!
Earl

New Hope, VA

#14 Jun 28, 2010
Methadone clinics are good. This is my forum and if you disagree I'll cut your internet service off!
lmfao

Tazewell, VA

#15 Jun 28, 2010
Little Bill wrote:
How about a Whorehouse and a Biker Bar ro complement the Methadone Clinic? Then we could add a Titty Bar and a Tattoo/Piercing Parlor! Grundy could boom! Who needs a Walmart?
hell yea
lmfao

Tazewell, VA

#16 Jun 28, 2010
hell yel that sounds like a plan. put it in motion.
i know

Cedar Bluff, VA

#17 Jun 28, 2010
true wrote:
<quoted text>
I think a methodone clinic would be great for Buchanan County. Those that don't are trying to bury their head in the sand!!
At least they would be treated and trying to stop the addiction, better than staying on drugs and have to steal from the people that don't want a clinic!!
what do u think methadone is A DRUG

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