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For less-educated workers, good jobs will be harder to find

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#590
Apr 2, 2008
 
Re: Loser

I've been in his shoes before, and in south Florida.
Just because you can speak or write well doesn't guarantee a decent job. Unless you can do something very unique in your industry, if you're going to be working for someone else you'll need a degree of some kind. Even then you're at the whims of your employer.
You either have to job hop because you'll get no reward for company loyalty or you have to BECOME the employer. Its a hard but simple truth. Welcome to the global economy.

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#591
Apr 2, 2008
 
Loser- you are not a loser. If it's any comfort, having a degree these days does not mean job security. It may for some, but there are many people who are either being laid off or are constantly on the "chopping block." (Myself included). Then when you get laid off due to cutbacks, you still have to pay your student loans.

If you learn by doing, you possess your own type of intelligence. In that department I am kind of stupid. I learn by writing and reading, so if I have to learn by "doing" I am the person who takes that extra half hour to get everything straight. Believe me when I say it is no fun to go through Basic Training when you can't learn by doing.

With my degree, I still have to pay a person to fix my car, I still have to pay someone to install my new pipes in my basement, I still have to drive on roads that need paved.(All of my textbook intelligence doesn't make the bathtub drain any faster.) These jobs are done by people who learn by doing. We can't phase that out of society no matter how over-educated we all become. There will always be a need for that kind of knowledge!
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Apr 2, 2008
 
Neighbor 22 wrote:
Loser- you are not a loser. If it's any comfort, having a degree these days does not mean job security. It may for some, but there are many people who are either being laid off or are constantly on the "chopping block." (Myself included). Then when you get laid off due to cutbacks, you still have to pay your student loans.
If you learn by doing, you possess your own type of intelligence. In that department I am kind of stupid. I learn by writing and reading, so if I have to learn by "doing" I am the person who takes that extra half hour to get everything straight. Believe me when I say it is no fun to go through Basic Training when you can't learn by doing.
With my degree, I still have to pay a person to fix my car, I still have to pay someone to install my new pipes in my basement, I still have to drive on roads that need paved.(All of my textbook intelligence doesn't make the bathtub drain any faster.) These jobs are done by people who learn by doing. We can't phase that out of society no matter how over-educated we all become. There will always be a need for that kind of knowledge!
Howdy Neighbor. Very good advice - you're a good man.

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Harrisburg, PA

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#593
Apr 2, 2008
 
Thanks, I prefer good woman though 8)
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Apr 2, 2008
 

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I am uneducated loser. Every day, I regret not going to college. Unfortunately, I have ADHD (along with a few other issues such as depression, anxiety) and therefore, going to college would have been pretty much impossible. I am reminded each day what a loser I am. My job is insecure and it is very unlikely that I'll be able to land an equivalent job, since all jobs these days ask for a BA, even those jobs paying as little as $28k a year.
The guy who mentioned that all the losers (such as myself) should just be killed.....great idea. Trust me, not a day goes by when I don't contemplate it, thanks to the compassionate people of America.
Hang yourself, walk on the beach, stay at home and scratch your ass, who gives a shit? if you can recognize your weakness and pretend it's a mountain to move, then you are a Jackass. It is folks like you that cost tax payers extra money unnecessarly and quite frankly whoever you hang around need to unleash the Lion.
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I went to college with depression and mild anxiety. It was difficult but medications did help. I'm not sure if I believe in all this ADD-ADHD whatever other A and D disorders there are hype. How come when I was a kid (1980s) NO ONE had ADD? Now in a classroom of 25, 10 kids are on Adderall. Go figure!
Noooo! you got it all wrong they don't need any Adderall or none of the other bullshit. What they need is for the parents to open a can of WHIPASS on them. That's what's lacking people. The parents are not running the home, the kids are and that's the problem.
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OK, thanks for the diagnoses, although not sure minor persecution delusions is a viable dx. I'm also not sure I would be interested in obtaining unsolicited medical advice from someone on the Internet.
I think ADD is definetly the flavor of the month. While it may exist, how is it possible that so many kids have it?
When you look at mental illnesses in the adult population, there's the same kind of "trend" thing going on. Everyone had multiple personalities in the 80s, Bipolar disorder was HUGE a few years back. Now everyone- combat vets, knitting grandmothers, soccer moms, children- has PTSD. I find it hard to believe, since PTSD is supposed to be a result of a life-threatening experience.
ADD, Bipolar, PTSD and all the other BS is just a poor eg of what a human suppose to be. Those are the same people that is on unemployment but they are good enought to play Basketball or some other type of sport while you and I work to mentain their lifestyle.
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What kind of medication is available for those thousands of people who feel oppressed and cloud their own lives unnecessarily?
A swift kick in theass.
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Apr 2, 2008
 
Justcurious wrote:
<quoted text>Hang yourself, walk on the beach, stay at home and scratch your ass, who gives a shit? if you can recognize your weakness and pretend it's a mountain to move, then you are a Jackass. It is folks like you that cost tax payers extra money unnecessarly and quite frankly whoever you hang around need to unleash the Lion.
sorry for the mispell.{unnecessarily}
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Ahh, the human condition of the American white trash.

Since: Feb 08

Victoria, Texas

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May 27, 2008
 
Justcurious wrote:
<quoted text>ADD, Bipolar, PTSD and all the other BS is just a poor eg of what a human suppose to be. Those are the same people that is on unemployment but they are good enought to play Basketball or some other type of sport while you and I work to mentain their lifestyle.
If you understood the current banking system you would realize that the out of work people living on disability are not a problem because the privately owned federal reserve(prints our money) can pick any number amount they want and just print that amount. So the true problem is that we move away from the gold standard.

“Often imitated...poorl y”

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Just east of Lyra.

ISP: Grand Rapids, MI

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May 28, 2008
 
B1azinNinja wrote:
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If you understood the current banking system you would realize that the out of work people living on disability are not a problem because the privately owned federal reserve(prints our money) can pick any number amount they want and just print that amount. So the true problem is that we move away from the gold standard.
The last guy who attempted to break up the Fed and tie our currency to solid metal got a bullet in the head for his efforts...

It sickens me how people realize that A: Our currency is owned and minted by a PRIVATE company, and that EVERY dollar in circulation is LOANED to government, at interest; and B: Your Federal Income Tax does NOT pay for ANY government program (Reagan's "Cadillac-driving welfare queens" included). Your income tax goes to pay the interest down in the perpetual cycle of debt created by the Federal Reserve system.

Instead, we get to see the results of an American generation that has been dumbed-down to the point of believing that republicans are patriots and that democrats have a conscience, when in truth, they are BOTH ownwed by the same people!

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss!

“Often imitated...poorl y”

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Just east of Lyra.

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#602
May 28, 2008
 
Justcurious wrote:
<quoted text>Noooo! you got it all wrong they don't need any Adderall or none of the other bullshit. What they need is for the parents to open a can of WHIPASS on them. That's what's lacking people. The parents are not running the home, the kids are and that's the problem.
You know, despite the fact that you are ignorant to the point of absurdity, I have to grant you this one small point. The last two generations of Americans were raised to be so stupid as to not even have a sense of cause and effect regarding their own actions. And when parents use superior force to back their words, it is now called "abuse".

I think this is actually the policy of our government (regardless of which party holds the throne), and it is intentional.

We are three generations removed from the greatest Americans to walk the Earth, and our Masters have gone a LONG way to reduce us from the strongest and proudest Nation in history, to the point where we are now on the brink of becoming a third world country.

“Fou A Travers l'Eau”

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May 28, 2008
 
Cyclops Rex wrote:
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You know, despite the fact that you are ignorant to the point of absurdity, I have to grant you this one small point. The last two generations of Americans were raised to be so stupid as to not even have a sense of cause and effect regarding their own actions. And when parents use superior force to back their words, it is now called "abuse".
I think this is actually the policy of our government
(regardless of which party holds the throne), and it is intentional.
We are three generations removed from the greatest Americans to walk the Earth, and our Masters have gone a LONG way to reduce us from the strongest and proudest Nation in history, to the point where we are now on the brink of becoming a third world country.
Now large universities and colleges are reducing the emphasis on SATs and ACTs by not requiring them anymore.

Just great.

“My bad! Just hold me. ”

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Orion's Belt ...

ISP: Knoxville, TN

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#604
May 28, 2008
 
Well, this state found the hand basket. Now is just a one way ticket.

Read this, if you will:

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/05/2...
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