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Funding was the hot topic of discussion as thousands of school board members from across the state were in Columbus over the weekend for an annual conference.
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wilbur

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The truth hurts and you know it! The grim reality is that there is no money left for you people to keep taking! Fact of the matter is everyone will be affected by the cuts that are coming so suck it up! Time to consolidate some schools and eliminate some positions. Quit building schools with every luxury and get back to basics!Quit spending every dime that comes in just to justify your next budget! Lots of people have lost their jobs or seen their incomes drop because of things in the economy and you as public employees have to realize that! Whenever I see teachers and other public employees complain they want to place blame yet I never see you come out with viable alternatives to the financial problems. You get mad when some one like me has no sympathy for you but you have no solutions either do you?
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wilbur wrote:
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The truth hurts and you know it! The grim reality is that there is no money left for you people to keep taking! Fact of the matter is everyone will be affected by the cuts that are coming so suck it up! Time to consolidate some schools and eliminate some positions. Quit building schools with every luxury and get back to basics!Quit spending every dime that comes in just to justify your next budget! Lots of people have lost their jobs or seen their incomes drop because of things in the economy and you as public employees have to realize that! Whenever I see teachers and other public employees complain they want to place blame yet I never see you come out with viable alternatives to the financial problems. You get mad when some one like me has no sympathy for you but you have no solutions either do you?
Here's a suggestion. Cut building so many athletic facilities at public schools and spend the money on physical education for all student. Too much is spent on elete athletes and not enough of true education.
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wilbur wrote:
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The truth hurts and you know it! The grim reality is that there is no money left for you people to keep taking! Fact of the matter is everyone will be affected by the cuts that are coming so suck it up! Time to consolidate some schools and eliminate some positions. Quit building schools with every luxury and get back to basics!Quit spending every dime that comes in just to justify your next budget! Lots of people have lost their jobs or seen their incomes drop because of things in the economy and you as public employees have to realize that! Whenever I see teachers and other public employees complain they want to place blame yet I never see you come out with viable alternatives to the financial problems. You get mad when some one like me has no sympathy for you but you have no solutions either do you?
Yes the truth hurts! But, it seems some of you only know half truths. You see, all of the teachers in our district accepted "no raise in our pay" for the current school year. However, our duties did not lessen, our class sizes got larger, our state standards didn't change (and have you ever looked at that list just for 2nd grade alone?)but we got more professional development requirements imposed on us as well. I would never take it upon myself to say that you in your profession (if you have one?) are undeserving of your pay, because I have never done your job and certainly do not know all of the details of it. I agree that some things in education are over paid, but as a teacher I cannot control that. I do however, have to remain in control of my classroom and I give it my all every day to assure that my students receive the best education that I can give them. One thing I wonder if you people realize is that it costs about 50 to 60 thousand dollars (at a community college level;more at a university) to become a teacher and most of us get student loans. It takes a long time to pay that back and during that time we are also required to go on earn a masters degree. Yes, we normally receive a small increase for this, but we also have to pay that back for many years. another thing is the amount of money we spend on our students. I'll give you an example: We needed writing journals last week. I had sent a note home to parents and out of 24 students only 6 brought them in. I went to Walmart and bought the rest $1.79 cents each times 18.I buy pencils, erasers, paper, books, posters and so on for other people's children almost weekly. This kind of thing happens all of the time to most teachers. My husband used to joke that I went to school to be a teacher so that I could support other people's kids. But, if you need things and parents do not provide, it falls back on you. I just think many of you are hitting hard when you only know half the story. I am not trying to make excuses for what I do or earn nor do I want or need your sympathy because some days I feel very satisfied in my job and others I feel like I deserve more for what I do. But, let's face it; is there anyone out there who hasn't felt that way about your jobs? Oh and as for solutions; I have one...Go volunteer at your local schools for a while, get a taste of the reality of it and then let us all hear back from you!
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Please don't judge all of us because of a few bad apples.
I think the reason that teachers are being "judged" is not due to the excellent teachers out there (many of which I personally know) but the fact that the NEA and OEA is protecting the few bad apples from being removed from the educational tree.

For many years, the teacher's unions have fought against merit pay and teacher proficiency testing. As a result, many teachers just go throught the motions, leading to mediocre performance and kids who graduate without basic skills such as reading and writing.

When more than 80% of a typical district's budget is allocated to cover teachers, staff and benefits, it is only appropriate that parents and taxpayers alike have means to assure that only the best teachers are being paid, not just those who are protected by unions and relatively incompetent.

I'm betting that there are a few of those teachers in your school. Everybody knows who they are, but yet, they get the same raises as do those who exceed at what they do. Until this problem is fixed, you run the risk of being put into the same bushel as your non-performing peers.
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I think the reason that teachers are being "judged" is not due to the excellent teachers out there (many of which I personally know) but the fact that the NEA and OEA is protecting the few bad apples from being removed from the educational tree.
For many years, the teacher's unions have fought against merit pay and teacher proficiency testing. As a result, many teachers just go throught the motions, leading to mediocre performance and kids who graduate without basic skills such as reading and writing.
When more than 80% of a typical district's budget is allocated to cover teachers, staff and benefits, it is only appropriate that parents and taxpayers alike have means to assure that only the best teachers are being paid, not just those who are protected by unions and relatively incompetent.
I'm betting that there are a few of those teachers in your school. Everybody knows who they are, but yet, they get the same raises as do those who exceed at what they do. Until this problem is fixed, you run the risk of being put into the same bushel as your non-performing peers.
Absoluteltly true and I know who they are in my building and work with some of them daily. I guess you're right about being put into the same bushel. I just think that is so narrow minded! I mean for example let's look at Professional sports! There are some who get totally recognized for thier good works and some that get paid the big bucks just for being there on the bench. But, I never see anyone putting them all in the same basket or trying to lobby for them to get lesser pay and hey, they are doing what they love to do also. I'm glad for your perspective and hope many others read what you have written.
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Why don't you quit your crying! All you people knew when you decided to become a teacher what was involved because most of you talked to others before you became one. Now all you want to do is bytch about doing a little homework! We don't care about you having to do a little bit at home! What we care about is you think we should continue to allow you to get pay raises all the time and pay for it by raising taxes all the time! We are sick of the gimme attitudes that the schools have and it is time for you to streamline the operations, fire excess personnel that are not needed and increase the workload for those that are left!Parents need to take on a bigger interest in their child's education and help them to succeed. As far as being juvenile you MetroNorth clown you are a moron!
For your information our district just put a 7 mill levey on the ballot in November to raise our taxes to pay for our schools. It didn't pass and I as a teacher in good conscience couldn't vote for it. Even though I knew that it meant I would have 32 2nd graders in my room next year as opposed to the 22 I have now. I also know many other teachers who did not vote for it either! You know, my husband makes very good money working construction. It's a hard life involving lots of time away from home; I can afford to pay the extra taxes, but I have to take into consideration all of the people who simply can't before I place my vote.
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I meant know-nothings
LOL Thanx! And yes to all who are about to pouince,I know that is text lingo!
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Haha, I meant pounce.
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Schools definitley can do a better job. However, not one of you has mentioned the most important factor in the success of students. PARENTS! God forbid we assess how effective paretns are doing. Crappy parents blame the schools for raising their children impropoerly. None of you realize how many crappy parents are out their. It doesn't matter what you do to schools, kids without REAL parenting will continue to not care about learning. All of you seem to use teachers as your pincusion for two reasons: 1. You pay their salaries with taxes so you feel you can blame them for your problems. 2. You never thought teachers could make a decent living or you would have been a teacher. Quit trying to feel better about yourself by taking away from others. Most of you reading this are probably good parents with smart kids. Tell your neighbor who has never talked with a teacher, never shown up for conferences, doesn't return phone calls and spends no time on their child's education to do their F***ing job!
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Schools definitley can do a better job. However, not one of you has mentioned the most important factor in the success of students. PARENTS! God forbid we assess how effective paretns are doing. Crappy parents blame the schools for raising their children impropoerly. None of you realize how many crappy parents are out their. It doesn't matter what you do to schools, kids without REAL parenting will continue to not care about learning. All of you seem to use teachers as your pincusion for two reasons: 1. You pay their salaries with taxes so you feel you can blame them for your problems. 2. You never thought teachers could make a decent living or you would have been a teacher. Quit trying to feel better about yourself by taking away from others. Most of you reading this are probably good parents with smart kids. Tell your neighbor who has never talked with a teacher, never shown up for conferences, doesn't return phone calls and spends no time on their child's education to do their F***ing job!
Who taught you how to spell jerky boy? Hope you are not a teacher!
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Who taught you how to spell jerky boy? Hope you are not a teacher!
I'm not. Are you not intelligent enough to respond to my comment? Clearly you can identify a mispelled word but maybe you weren't educated well enough to put together a real constructive thought.
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I'm not. Are you not intelligent enough to respond to my comment? Clearly you can identify a mispelled word but maybe you weren't educated well enough to put together a real constructive thought.
Actually there are 4 spelling errors! You also misspelled (mispelled)!
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Suggestion: Close all schools and go strictly to home schooling.
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Suggestion: Close all schools and go strictly to home schooling.
What a typical Repugnicant failure idea! This way, we won't be able to compete with Afghanistan, let alone China or Germany or India. But at least my kids won't have to deal with your kids.

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