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South-Western schools' finances focus of board hopefuls

There are 285 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Oct 28, 2009, titled South-Western schools' finances focus of board hopefuls. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

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Dave

Hopkinsville, KY

#1 Oct 28, 2009
Funny how two of these running for reelection are former teachers/principals and Cathy Johnson is also the former President of the Teachers Union (which by the way has endorsed all 3 of this gang!) No wonder they won't make teachers take pay and benefit cuts!! Lunatics are running the SWCS asylum.
Seriously

North Chicago, IL

#2 Oct 28, 2009
So let's vote the lunatics out!:)
Great Grandma

Hilliard, OH

#3 Oct 28, 2009
STAND DOWN for issue #47!

It is not about our children. It is about the UNIONS! Teachers, staff & administation come first! Our chldren second!

If they really cared they would not make them walk to school off rural roads with no sidewalks! Dollars & benefits came first!

Toss out the incumbants first chance next week!

Why did they remove all of the commnets from earlier?
kissin an tellin

Reynoldsburg, OH

#4 Oct 28, 2009
16 admininstrative salaries are six figures, 11 of them are in the $80 to $90.000 salaries. This doesn't include the top ranked Principles / educators who fall well within this salary range as well.
This levy has little to do with the business of running a school district and much to do with keeping these salaries as fat as possible.
I say no to the idea, "we need top pay for top performers", the state of the district and the level of poor performance in standardized testing clearly supports my position.
Research this, choose your position and have the courage to vote what you know is right. Then identify each incumbent board member and vote them out now!!!
The time has come for all of us to take this district back from the unions, and give it back to the community.
Balls Deep

Columbus, OH

#5 Oct 28, 2009
"we need top pay for top performers"

--is the current great American Lie. With hundreds of hard working daily grinders lined up for any chance at a solid employment opportunity or advancement Executive Salaries are OUT OF TOUCH!
just my opinion

Columbus, OH

#6 Oct 28, 2009
Dave wrote:
Funny how two of these running for reelection are former teachers/principals and Cathy Johnson is also the former President of the Teachers Union (which by the way has endorsed all 3 of this gang!) No wonder they won't make teachers take pay and benefit cuts!! Lunatics are running the SWCS asylum.
Didn't know Johnson used to sit on the other side of the table, just thought she was a retired teacher. Thanks for the tip , this scenario is starting to become even more clear...And while I thank her for her service, Ed Palmer too, I wonder how they can be objective about negotiating salary structure and benefit packages to people on their Christmas card list?
Former SWCS Resident

Clifton Park, NY

#7 Oct 28, 2009
This district has been "divided" for years. This not the fault of any board, in particular, nor any administration. The general concept that diversity is good, does not hold true in this district. The diversity I refer to is economic, not ethnic. If any individual board member believes they are going to change this economic divide, they are sadly mistaken. All one need to do is look at the history of the district. As economic divides widened, so did the the district.

Perhaps the district needs a sociologist on the school board to assist. Whatever is being done now is not working.
kissin an tellin

Reynoldsburg, OH

#8 Oct 28, 2009
Current SWCS Board members:
Amy Baker
Mindy Garverick
Cathy Johnson
William McCarty
Randy Reisling

Stand up for what is right, not for more of the same blather. vote, Vote, VOTE!!!
Bodie is a turd

Columbus, OH

#9 Oct 28, 2009
Great Grandma wrote:
STAND DOWN for issue #47!
It is not about our children. It is about the UNIONS! Teachers, staff & administation come first! Our chldren second!
If they really cared they would not make them walk to school off rural roads with no sidewalks! Dollars & benefits came first!
Toss out the incumbants first chance next week!
Why did they remove all of the commnets from earlier?
Raise Efficiency, Not Our Taxes! Vote No to Issue 47!
CONCERNED - BROKE

Pataskala, OH

#10 Oct 28, 2009
We are all inflation broke and taxed broke. Why do we need 2-3 assistant principals plus a principal in these schools which most of them are making between $80,000 to $100,000 a year plus benifits? There needs to be very major changes in the board starting at the top and working right down the line. My daughter goes to PVMS and a few of her teachers hand out packets and projects just about every week. That is their class work and homework. What happened to teaching time in the classroom? Anyone can hand out papers stapled together or assign a project and then kick back for the rest of the class time and collect big bucks!!!!! I say something is wrong with the whole SWCS system. ELIMINATE POSITIONS AND MAKE THE OTHER ONES EARN THEIR PAY. THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE TEACHERS NOT PAPERPUSHERS!!!!!!!
MAJOR ISSUES

Columbus, OH

#11 Oct 28, 2009
WOW ALL OF THESE COMMENTS ARE AMAZING, I CAN'T WAIT FOR MY KIDS TO GET OUT OF THIS MESSED UP SCHOOL SYSTEM..I REALLY DO FEEL BAD FOR THE KIDS WALKING HOME GETTING JUMPED FOR THERE IPODS AND WALLETS BY ADULTS..AGAIN AMAZING..
think

Columbus, OH

#12 Oct 28, 2009
just my opinion wrote:
<quoted text>Didn't know Johnson used to sit on the other side of the table, just thought she was a retired teacher. Thanks for the tip , this scenario is starting to become even more clear...And while I thank her for her service, Ed Palmer too, I wonder how they can be objective about negotiating salary structure and benefit packages to people on their Christmas card list?
It's just a sad truth.
Bodie is a turd

Columbus, OH

#13 Oct 28, 2009
Did Mary Mulvany lie?
Last night on HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumble, Mulvany claimed that residents immediately moved out of the district after the levy failed. She offered no examples of anyone she knew who moved or documentation of any kind to prove her claim. She also claimed in her October 12th speech, that was distributed by CFSWCS, that businesses had suffered because,( of Bill Wise's and the SWCS boards decision to eliminate sports). Again, she says businesses were impacted by the loss but does not give the names of any of the businesses or the $$$ amount of the losses the businesses supposedly suffered. Beyond saying, Businesses have suffered, or families immediately moved the day after the levy failure, she offers nothing else by way of verification. I believe Mary Mulvany is being dishonest.
jim

Kent, OH

#14 Oct 28, 2009
The comments of former SWCS hit the nail on the head. Even though the district has been consolidated for a long time it was never united. The economic divide has grown, the industrial base(GM, Westinghouse,others) is gone and what business is left have seen their tangible personal tax go away as well as utility taxes, and now there is a huge district that has to be supported on the backs of the residential property tax. This scene is repeated all over Ohio in former industrial areas. Think Lancaster or Newark or Youngstown. They lost a major tax source but did not lose the needs of the people who still live there.
bob dole

Columbus, OH

#15 Oct 28, 2009
the problem is that the current taxpayer funded model for teacher compensation is unsustainable.
period.

like it or not..the giant gorilla in the room IS employee payroll.
THIS isn't about "the children" missing prom..or "mean" taxpayers or an "incompetent" superintendent...or even board members.

THIS is(and always was) about the three unions that work with SWCS.
(i would love to see the employee payroll% of now...compare to 10 and 20 years ago)

much like their autoworker brothers..the 3 unions must realize that maybe they are choking this golden goose a lil toooo much..and it is time for concessions.

maybe the simplest solution is to privatize education...the market would decide what that teacher with 25 year's exp and a master's degree is worth.

for the record..whatever mandate requiring teachers to obtain a master's degree should be abolished.
communities obviously can not afford that luxury.
impact

Nashport, OH

#17 Oct 28, 2009
Bodie is a turd wrote:
Did Mary Mulvany lie?
Last night on HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumble, Mulvany claimed that residents immediately moved out of the district after the levy failed. She offered no examples of anyone she knew who moved or documentation of any kind to prove her claim. She also claimed in her October 12th speech, that was distributed by CFSWCS, that businesses had suffered because,( of Bill Wise's and the SWCS boards decision to eliminate sports). Again, she says businesses were impacted by the loss but does not give the names of any of the businesses or the $$$ amount of the losses the businesses supposedly suffered. Beyond saying, Businesses have suffered, or families immediately moved the day after the levy failure, she offers nothing else by way of verification. I believe Mary Mulvany is being dishonest.
Mary didn't lie. I have lost a best friend and her family who moved out of her neighborhood immediately. They haven't closed on the sale of thier home yet, but will do so asap. I have spoken to many people who know others in the same boat. I know of one business who has closed thier doors and I have personally spoken to many who are suffering specifically due to the loss of the extra's. Some are just hanging on to see if this levy passes. I don't know who Mary is referring to, but you don't have to go very far to find examples.
John

Columbus, OH

#18 Oct 28, 2009
Ohio is in the process of becoming a poor state. Manufacturing has been devastated and the tax base is eroding every year. These battles over property taxes will only get worse. As school districts and their unions try to maintain what they have had in the past, they will run into voters whose finances have been devastated and who are not willing to continue funding the rich pay and benefit packages for school employees while they try to survive. South-Western is just at the beginning of the process. Other districts will experience the same thing. Ohio has become a backwater state like Mississippi and Alabama and this South-Wester property tax fight is just a symptom of a much larger macroeconomic trend.
Balls Deep

Columbus, OH

#19 Oct 28, 2009
Bob Dole says, "Bob Dole."
Resident

Santa Clara, CA

#20 Oct 28, 2009
Bodie is a turd wrote:
Did Mary Mulvany lie?
Last night on HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumble, Mulvany claimed that residents immediately moved out of the district after the levy failed. She offered no examples of anyone she knew who moved or documentation of any kind to prove her claim. She also claimed in her October 12th speech, that was distributed by CFSWCS, that businesses had suffered because,( of Bill Wise's and the SWCS boards decision to eliminate sports). Again, she says businesses were impacted by the loss but does not give the names of any of the businesses or the $$$ amount of the losses the businesses supposedly suffered. Beyond saying, Businesses have suffered, or families immediately moved the day after the levy failure, she offers nothing else by way of verification. I believe Mary Mulvany is being dishonest.
I personally know over 15 students who's families left 8/4 when the last levy failed. There were also 3 families who moved out of state. Anyone who personally attends the various meetings, is involved in the schools, or talks to other parents would also know that there are many many more who have already made plans to leave if the current levy is not passed. Many of the prior students moved due to sports/band or clubs; however the next group includes many of the students in advanced classes as those will be gone with more cuts. While the students may stay the remainder of this school year - they will be gone next fall as their classes will no longer be available.
Fed Up

Grove City, OH

#21 Oct 28, 2009
I understand people's frustrations, BUT, this is an Ohio school district. The only option to collect monies in Ohio is through levies. How do you expect a school district to continue to operate without operating dollars?

Everyone wants quality educators and higher test scores, well what educators are going to want to work in a district that has such low community support??? Let's try making changes in our school board, backing our school district and get this turned around.

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