Sex Offenders About To Leave The Map

Sex Offenders About To Leave The Map

There are 29 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Oct 3, 2008, titled Sex Offenders About To Leave The Map. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

These are the registered sex offenders who are scheduled to be removed from the registry by the end of the year.

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Since: Aug 08

Windsor, CT

#1 Oct 3, 2008
If these people have not had any other offenses in 10 years, then this article is really a low blow. They did their time; let them be already.

Why not publish a daily list of all the people getting out of jail or all people completing probation?
CT Resident

AOL

#2 Oct 3, 2008
Let these people be. Focus on those who are a real danger like repeat and violent offenders. These registries have there place, but they categorize all offenders together. There are people on here who were labeled "sex offenders" for urinating in public while drunk labled as "public indecency". It is offensive and perhaps indecent, but not a sex offense!. They are placed right next to violent rapists. Why not highlight the truly dangerous that are living in our communities instead of those who have minor offenses and have not otherwise misbehaved.
Citizen

Still River, MA

#3 Oct 3, 2008
Well, it's certainly nice to see that the pillory system of mob humiliation is alive and well at the Courant. There are severe imperfections in the very idea of being forced to plead guilty to a sex offense in the first place. Not everyone on that list is a rutting, uncontrollable criminal incapable of self-control and earning respect for having served one's debt to society. Not everybody on that list got proper legal representation. I believe that the sex registry has become something of a disposal for prosecutors and public defenders. It is not a flawlessly nuanced method of meting out justice or meeting the legal system's responsibilities to victims and neighborhoods.

But typical of all populist impulses, and all the dangers they bring, the Courant has chosen to perpetuate this by putting it on the front of its website. Whether it's economics, tax policy, politics--or the toxic collision of all of them, it's nice to know the Courant serves not as a source of information and enlightenment, but merely as a town tattler.
Phineas Phreek

Harwinton, CT

#4 Oct 3, 2008
Are you people living in an absolute intellectual vacuum?

There are two types of criminal mind that are considered immune to rehabilitation: sex offenders and arsonists. Do a little research before you damn the government and the media for trying to keep our wives and daughters safe, you fools.

In a just world, they would all move in next door to you. But that would be JUST FINE with you, wouldn't it?
craig

Meriden, CT

#5 Oct 3, 2008
Phineas- we're not talking about dangerous offenders here. these are people who did minor things like urinating in public, or an 17-year-old having sex with his 15-year-old girlfriend. there's a HUGE difference. when i look at the registry to see who in my neighborhood is dangerous, i want to see the actual people who are dangerous.
Outraged

New Bedford, MA

#6 Oct 3, 2008
craig wrote:
Phineas- we're not talking about dangerous offenders here. these are people who did minor things like urinating in public, or an 17-year-old having sex with his 15-year-old girlfriend. there's a HUGE difference. when i look at the registry to see who in my neighborhood is dangerous, i want to see the actual people who are dangerous.
Roger Potvin of Enfield is a repeat sexual predator who preys on young boys. His name will come off the list. He will do it again and probably has - just has not been caught. Read the aticle - not all of these people were on the list for peeing in public.

If you have a young boy, you will not know when he moves into your neighborhood and befriends your child.

People should be dropped off the list after careful review of the type of offense they were CONVICTED of.
Citizen

Still River, MA

#7 Oct 3, 2008
Outraged, if the person you're speaking of is going to commit criminal acts again and again, should that person be in jail or on a list???

Don't miss my point. The sex registry is not sufficient to protect society. The very fact that neighbors need to be warned at all proves that. It is emblematic of the failure of our criminal justice system. Releasing real offenders back into the wild does not get ameliorated by a list! But turning neighbors into vigilantes out of fear that may or may not always be justified is no way to live.

I suppose that using the internet to perpetuate sex offense registry is available to everyone, and the government's system will be bypassed completely. Then I guess anyone can be placed on it, guilty or not.

And as for some of the other people, who were railroaded onto it, let me remind you all that the Lennon-McCartney song about lusting after the girl who "was just seventeen/if you know what I mean" would be actionable now, a few "enlightened" generations later. There are people on that list who are guilty of nothing but the "Romeo & Juliet" "crime" of having fallen in love with a younger person, younger by a few years. It ruins people's lives, but I suppose that is the price you are all prepared to pay to segregate some guilty parties.

I know this is highly sensitive, and people object to minority views such as mine--I respect that completely. But it doesn't excuse the Courant's sensationalism and yellow journalism disguised as public service. They love rousing everyone over things that matter to no one: like Arnold Chase's house on the mountain, or the fact that Bill Buckley chose not to leave more money to his illegitimate grandson. The Courant's placement of these sorts of stories is calculated to produce just what it does: diversions and titilation. It's one step away from National Enquirer. It's their business model now.
JenR

AOL

#8 Oct 3, 2008
Pizzin on the curb will NOT get you on this list so stop with the lies.

These names are on the list til the END OF THE YEAR. The Courant is just cutting out the middle man (the link to the sex off. website)

Thank you Hartford Courant, great reporting!
Glad

United States

#9 Oct 3, 2008
Why are persons with no known address being removed from the list? Doesn't their probationary standing depend on reporting their place of residence?

Since: Aug 08

Windsor, CT

#10 Oct 3, 2008
Do your own research, Phineas. When I did mine, I learned that sex offenders have the lowest recidivism rate of all offenders - well below 20%. Sources include the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the Center for Sex Offender Management, a large-scale study by Central Connecticut State University, and a 1998 review of 61 studies that examined recidivism among 28,972 sex offenders.

Whether sex offenders (or arsonists, for that matter) can be rehabbed depends on the nature of their offense. But that's not what we should care about; we should care that they do not re-offend. And the people leaving the registry have not re-offended in 10 years. Let them put their past behind them.
Get Real

East Granby, CT

#11 Oct 3, 2008
CT Resident wrote:
Let these people be. Focus on those who are a real danger like repeat and violent offenders. These registries have there place, but they categorize all offenders together. There are people on here who were labeled "sex offenders" for urinating in public while drunk labled as "public indecency". It is offensive and perhaps indecent, but not a sex offense!. They are placed right next to violent rapists. Why not highlight the truly dangerous that are living in our communities instead of those who have minor offenses and have not otherwise misbehaved.
BS...what about the guys who repeatedly had sex with underage kids...that isn't abuse? These guys should be on the list forever. There is no cure for their sickness and they will hurt someone else.
Did you notice

Boston, MA

#12 Oct 3, 2008
that the last name on the list is the person interviewed in the other article? whereabouts unknown?
Winnie

United States

#13 Oct 3, 2008
Glad wrote:
Why are persons with no known address being removed from the list? Doesn't their probationary standing depend on reporting their place of residence?
Exactly what I was wondering....
Todd

Plainville, CT

#14 Oct 3, 2008
I know one name who used to have kids over his house. And in exchange for him letting the kids ride motorcycles go carts and snowmobiles would do the unthinkable. You folks ok with this one getting to leave the map? I'm not

“Parrot Flower”

Since: Sep 08

Mostly there

#15 Oct 3, 2008
Citizen wrote:
Well, it's certainly nice to see that the pillory system of mob humiliation is alive and well at the Courant. There are severe imperfections in the very idea of being forced to plead guilty to a sex offense in the first place. Not everyone on that list is a rutting, uncontrollable criminal incapable of self-control and earning respect for having served one's debt to society. Not everybody on that list got proper legal representation. I believe that the sex registry has become something of a disposal for prosecutors and public defenders. It is not a flawlessly nuanced method of meting out justice or meeting the legal system's responsibilities to victims and neighborhoods.
But typical of all populist impulses, and all the dangers they bring, the Courant has chosen to perpetuate this by putting it on the front of its website. Whether it's economics, tax policy, politics--or the toxic collision of all of them, it's nice to know the Courant serves not as a source of information and enlightenment, but merely as a town tattler.
If you have children,wouldn"t You want to know if your neighbor was one of these people? I damn sure would.
matt

Stephens City, VA

#16 Oct 3, 2008
these individuals should have to go through castration with a butter knife
norwalk mother

Garden City, NY

#17 Oct 3, 2008
let us not forget the little girl who helped this law get established. sex offender list is in place to warn us, no one is out to humiliate anyone, and yes 10 years is a long time, we should all be able to put the past behind, but who is to know the nature of the offender's crime. it could be serious and that sex offender could be your neighbor, there are 3 living down the street from me in norwalk, just look them up and use caution
dave h

Manchester, CT

#18 Oct 3, 2008
so print your list out now so you won't lose their names...
bear

Montgomery, AL

#19 Oct 4, 2008
they should just cut there there junk off

“Parrot Flower”

Since: Sep 08

Mostly there

#20 Oct 4, 2008
Rick - CT wrote:
Do your own research, Phineas. When I did mine, I learned that sex offenders have the lowest recidivism rate of all offenders - well below 20%. Sources include the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the Center for Sex Offender Management, a large-scale study by Central Connecticut State University, and a 1998 review of 61 studies that examined recidivism among 28,972 sex offenders.
Whether sex offenders (or arsonists, for that matter) can be rehabbed depends on the nature of their offense. But that's not what we should care about; we should care that they do not re-offend. And the people leaving the registry have not re-offended in 10 years. Let them put their past behind them.
You say let them put the past behind them???? What about the victims? Something like That stays with you for the rest of your life.Trust Me.It"s not something you "Forget".

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