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Wal-Mart abandons plan for new store in Gresham

There are 30 comments on the Oregonlive.com story from Jun 21, 2007, titled Wal-Mart abandons plan for new store in Gresham. In it, Oregonlive.com reports that:

“It took a lot of persistence on a lot of people's parts, and boy, I hope this gives courage to other neighborhood associations and to people who don't want something that doesn't fit in their neighborhood to stick with it and fight.”

Wal-Mart is throwing in the towel on its efforts to build a combination grocery and discount store at the intersection of Powell Boulevard and 182nd Avenue in Gresham. via Oregonlive.com

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Butterfly

United States

#21 Jul 27, 2007
After reading all that Peoplematter has been saying I must conclude he is a union member...and one associated with a website that comdemms Walmart.

I know people working at dear old Freddy's guess where there shop?? You got it WALMART!

Personally I was pulling for a Walmart store on Powell Blvd!
Butterfly

United States

#22 Jul 27, 2007
Slickrick wrote:
Claudia stumbled upona great insight. Majority of protestors are paid and don't give a rats ass what cause they are protesting. A group of small business owners and maybe even Safeway clamour up together and pay these guys so Walmart will not come into their neighborhoods. All these people know that Walmart will charge less, which is better for the consumer but bad for them because they don't want to lower their prices. As a consumer, I'd rather go to Walmart for a one stop shop with lower prices than drive around from store to store and pay more to buy items. Don't fall into the scam just because you saw a documentary about Walmart made by big Hollywood company and yes it was made by a big Hollywood company.
I would not be suprised that the protesters were paid. Afterall, the union has devoted an entire website to bashing Walmart!
I have friends working at Freddy's....guess where they shop??? You got it WALMART!
IKEA

Portland, OR

#23 Jul 27, 2007
of course the same folks who gripe about WalMart (but still shop there) are willing to wait hours to walk into big box store IKEA (which is a nice store). Retail is Retail.
Eric

United States

#24 Aug 1, 2007
Walmart comes in with lower prices, but as soon as the local competition is driven out of business, they jack the prices right back up. I price check my groceries between local retailers and watched this happen!

They can do this because they are a huge corporation with locations all over the world and can actually loose money in the short term.

If a local small shop tried these same practices, they would run out of money quickly.

I live in Gresham and am very happy that Walmart did not locate where they wanted to. No need to SUCK money out of our local economy and more than it already is.
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Oman

#25 Aug 2, 2007
I would give to be able to walk into a Walmart on a daily basis.

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portland, OR, I suppose

#26 Aug 14, 2007
claudia in Saint Helens wrote:
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How can it be that their low prices cause the product to end up as landfill?

I can buy the same coffee pot at any number of stores, made by the same company. Why, then, would the one from WalMart end up as landfill and the others don't?

That argument makes no sense.
If Fred's wants to compete, go for it.
If WalMart chooses to do business on quantity, that is their right.
What would your decision be if YOU owned WalMart? Raise prices and be less profitable so your competition wouldn't suffer?
The products are actually almost always a model specifically produced for Walmart. If you aren't paying close attention to the details, you won't necessarily notice. Vacuums, coffee pots, radios, etc. are frequently made just for the Walmart stores, even though there might appear to be comparable models at other locations. They are quite often produced for Walmart in different locations than the goods sold elsewhere and for much cheaper prices. It's not about bulk.

Also, it's not just that Walmart buys in bulk. Other companies do this as well. Walmart actually will set the price they are willing to pay, and essentially bully the manufacturer into meeting that price point. It is up to the manufacturer to find a way to produce the goods if they want to sell to Walmart. And many manufacturers do because, if nothing else, it looks good for their company to be able to claim those high volume/high profile sales.

I worked for an apparel company that frequently sold to Walmart, among other places. They were very pushy with sales and set their price point for, say, a junior's printed t-shirt produced domestically (which includes Mexico) at much less than other retailers (and still marked it up for retail quite a bit). As a result, the only way to make it work was to reduce the quality of the fabric and of the embellishment, and if anything could be made outside of the US it was because that was the only way for our company to turn any profit whatsoever.

Walmart is a very strange beast. I'm glad there isn't one near me, so I'm not tempted by its low prices and cheap, chinese wares.

As an aside, it'd be nice if Walmart would actually pay its employees decent wages (ever wonder why they are the employers of the elderly and disabled?) and not expect (ie, encourage employees to beseech) the government to pay for their employees' healthcare or make up for the gap in income and livable income.
yorkiestork

Los Angeles, CA

#27 Aug 17, 2007
claudia in Saint Helens wrote:
I have yet to understand why a WalMart going up in an area causes so much distress for people. more jobs and more money into the economy is a bad thing? I don't get it. I have a WalMart very close to my house and there is no trash or riff raff or debris on any side of it. In fact, it is cleaner around the WalMart than it is around the Safeway right across the street. No one bitches when a Safeway plants roots.
I talked to some protesters in Hillsboro one time who were marching against WalMart and they said they didn't care one way or the other, they were paid to march and they needed the money. So there ya are. One person says it and 20 morons jump on the wagon with no idea where it is headed. boggles the mind
Walmart caters to low income people that can't get good paying jobs. That is why people are in uproar over Walmarts that try to squeeze into higher income areas. Walmart runs real estate values down. Everyone knows that!
I have been living in the phoenix metro area for 19 years and just moved from there. Every single Walmart that has opened in the Phoenix area is run down. Over there it takes about 2-3 year after the opening to see the big differences. I am considerated low income and I don't even want them in my neighborhood. I would rather support mom and pop stores instead and pay more. Sorry
yorkiestork

Los Angeles, CA

#28 Aug 17, 2007
Walmart caters to low income people that can't get good paying jobs. That is why people are in uproar over Walmarts that try to squeeze into higher income areas. Walmart runs real estate values down. Everyone knows that!
I have been living in the phoenix metro area for 19 years and just moved from there. Every single Walmart that has opened in the Phoenix area is run down. Over there it takes about 2-3 year after the opening to see the big differences. I am considerated low income and I don't even want them in my neighborhood. I would rather support mom and pop stores instead and pay more. Sorry
Claudia in Saint Helens

Portland, OR

#29 Aug 18, 2007
i'm all for supporting mom and pop stores too.'made in china' used to be an embarrassing label to have on anything in your house when i grew up. it was called 'red china'.
but where do you find a 'mom and pop' shop these days when you want a new toaster or some cheap play pants for the kids? where do you find stuff only made in the USA?
all i was saying, in defense of WalMart is that they are only exercising their right to making a profit in this country. and THAT i will defend.
i don't like the peace marchers either...but i defend their right to their opinions.
those are the things that set us apart from other nations, and make us great.
so if walmart is so bad

United States

#30 Mar 5, 2011
then why when one goes up they are packed you guy are all a bunch of hipa cricks you will shop there when there is one because everyone is trying to save money and find the best deal shut the hell up and deal with it.

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