Wal-Mart abandons plan for new store in Gresham

Jun 21, 2007 Full story: Oregonlive.com 30

“It took a lot of persistence on a lot of people's parts, and boy, I hope this gives courage to other neighborhood associations and to people who don't want something that doesn't fit in their neighborhood to stick with it and fight.”

Wal-Mart is throwing in the towel on its efforts to build a combination grocery and discount store at the intersection of Powell Boulevard and 182nd Avenue in Gresham. via Oregonlive.com

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peoplematter

Portland, OR

#1 Jun 22, 2007
This is so encouraging that we can still make a difference in what we want in our neighborhoods vs. corporate greed! This is fantastic!
because

Portland, OR

#2 Jun 25, 2007
they found a better location.
peoplematter

Portland, OR

#3 Jun 25, 2007
because wrote:
they found a better location.
where?
claudia in Saint Helens

Portland, OR

#4 Jun 25, 2007
I have yet to understand why a WalMart going up in an area causes so much distress for people. more jobs and more money into the economy is a bad thing? I don't get it. I have a WalMart very close to my house and there is no trash or riff raff or debris on any side of it. In fact, it is cleaner around the WalMart than it is around the Safeway right across the street. No one bitches when a Safeway plants roots.
I talked to some protesters in Hillsboro one time who were marching against WalMart and they said they didn't care one way or the other, they were paid to march and they needed the money. So there ya are. One person says it and 20 morons jump on the wagon with no idea where it is headed. boggles the mind
no kidding

Portland, OR

#5 Jun 25, 2007
WalMart, much like all of the big retailers, generates a lot of renevue for China --- China then buys up the USA with the profits...

As far as straight capitalism goes, if you can't compete then too bad. Also, most folks will bad mouth Walmart but shop there several times a week. A guarantee that people in smaller towns LIVE in Walmart and most of the people love it --- easy access to food, clothing, electronics and sporting goods with better selection and better prices...

Walmart treats their employees poorly and is really no different that any other retail outfit. It's all about money.
claudia in Saint Helens

Portland, OR

#6 Jun 25, 2007
you are totally right. we are, or are supposed to be, a capitalistic society. If WalMart can sell the very same item for cheaper then Freds, Target or Home Depot...so be it. That is the free market system we have. It does not matter whether you shop walmart or any other mentioned store..you are supporting China if that is where the product is made.WalMart is not to blame for that.
As for treating their employees poorly...
if they don't like it, they can leave. That is how I would handle a rotten place to work. Some have been there 10, 12, 15 years and still say it is rotten. Then why do they stay? some people just like to complain i think. If it's so bad that it is illegal, report them. if you just don't like it, quit. If it's just because you just don't like working, bitch away and collect your check.That's our right in America also! Ain't it grand??!!!
peoplematter

Portland, OR

#7 Jun 26, 2007
OH please.. enough with if they can do better even if they are hurting others it's ok coz we are in a capitalistic socieyt and it's a free market.. A MONOPOLY is not a FREE market..
Wake up and read a little.
Old views are the destruction of society.. Time to wake up and recognize big corporations for what they are.. they are not FREE to anyone BUT THEMSELVES!
McCorporations

Portland, OR

#8 Jun 26, 2007
when is the last time that you bought something from a big corporation? do you drive a car? buy gas? food?

Walmart does not have a monopoly --- Walmart, Target, Sears, ShopCo, Fred Meyer, KMart, there are so many....

to me the Oil companies are much much worse than Walmart
peoplematter wrote:
OH please.. enough with if they can do better even if they are hurting others it's ok coz we are in a capitalistic socieyt and it's a free market.. A MONOPOLY is not a FREE market..
Wake up and read a little.
Old views are the destruction of society.. Time to wake up and recognize big corporations for what they are.. they are not FREE to anyone BUT THEMSELVES!
peoplematter

Portland, OR

#9 Jun 26, 2007
Oil companies have their own horridness but that is a separate issue.
Walmart goes on top of any other retail corporation for being a bad neighbor. They get a bad scorecard on everything from treating employees badly, to making prices so low that the quality of the product ends up in the landfills, not to mention who is making that product to begin with, as well as affecting local stores futures.
McCorporations

Portland, OR

#10 Jun 26, 2007
I agree with Walmart's practices being bad news, we all do...that does not make them a monopoly.
peoplematter wrote:
Oil companies have their own horridness but that is a separate issue.
Walmart goes on top of any other retail corporation for being a bad neighbor. They get a bad scorecard on everything from treating employees badly, to making prices so low that the quality of the product ends up in the landfills, not to mention who is making that product to begin with, as well as affecting local stores futures.
claudia in Saint Helens

Portland, OR

#11 Jun 26, 2007
peoplematter wrote:
Oil companies have their own horridness but that is a separate issue.
Walmart goes on top of any other retail corporation for being a bad neighbor. They get a bad scorecard on everything from treating employees badly, to making prices so low that the quality of the product ends up in the landfills, not to mention who is making that product to begin with, as well as affecting local stores futures.
How can it be that their low prices cause the product to end up as landfill?
I can buy the same coffee pot at any number of stores, made by the same company. Why, then, would the one from WalMart end up as landfill and the others don't?
That argument makes no sense.
If Fred's wants to compete, go for it.
If WalMart chooses to do business on quantity, that is their right.
What would your decision be if YOU owned WalMart? Raise prices and be less profitable so your competition wouldn't suffer?
peoplematter

United States

#12 Jun 27, 2007
I so don't feel sorry for Walmart. They do more damage than any other box. They are one of the biggest and they will trample on anyone that gets in the way.

When does it stop? How much damage can you afford to ignore in a neighborhood for the sake of supposedly "competition".. Why is that an excuse to stomp on everyone else? Time for a change..

Get back to supporting stores that matter, preferably mom and pop shops, local places. Pay attention to what you purchase with your almighty dollar. What effects/impact are you causing?

Walmart does not care. So does that mean you should not either? After all you reap what you sow after all. Walmart only takes and takes without any concern for anyone else but themselves. They are the BIGGEST.. that's why it's time to stop and take a look at the effects of them for starters. They have the worse records of any other store you want to name.
claudia in Saint Helens

Portland, OR

#13 Jun 27, 2007
peoplematter wrote:
I so don't feel sorry for Walmart. They do more damage than any other box. They are one of the biggest and they will trample on anyone that gets in the way.
When does it stop? How much damage can you afford to ignore in a neighborhood for the sake of supposedly "competition".. Why is that an excuse to stomp on everyone else? Time for a change..
Get back to supporting stores that matter, preferably mom and pop shops, local places. Pay attention to what you purchase with your almighty dollar. What effects/impact are you causing?
Walmart does not care. So does that mean you should not either? After all you reap what you sow after all. Walmart only takes and takes without any concern for anyone else but themselves. They are the BIGGEST.. that's why it's time to stop and take a look at the effects of them for starters. They have the worse records of any other store you want to name.
a lot of nice talking points but where are your facts?
What damage do they do?
What effects from them?
Worse records for what?
What doesn't WalMart care about?

WalMart is in the business of making money. If people aren't happy about how they do that should they quit?
If you were WalMart, would you?
peoplematter

United States

#14 Jun 28, 2007
Ya.. I know I keep hearing that $$$$$$$$$ is all that matters to people.. Well it's not and a lot of people are fed up by corporations that don't take responsibility for the damage they reek when they have no regard or concern for anything but the almighty dollar..

What is a talking point? Sounds like you know more about that.
claudia in Saint Helens

Portland, OR

#15 Jun 29, 2007
What damage?
A talking point is an empty statement.
No facts to back it up. Maybe something you have heard from someone else so you repeat it and you have nothing to back it...or ammo to debate the point.
peoplematter

Portland, OR

#16 Jun 29, 2007
Right.. because no one has ever heard about Walmart being unfair to their employees, or bullying their way in to neighborhoods without being wanted, or ruining local stores by making competing with them hopeless because they go for cheap labor from China. But ya those are not facts..
Get a clue.
You must be a walmart spy eh? I mean because the past blogs I have read they always say the buzz words: "talking points"..
Claudia in Saint Helens

Portland, OR

#17 Jun 29, 2007
again...how is it WalMart is 'going for cheap labor from China' but other retailers are not...when other stores sell the same darn thing made by the same manufacture? I fail to see how Walmart is doing something unfair. Maybe they just choose to have a smaller profit margain by selling for less and relying on quantity for their profits.
Why can I buy the same pound of butter at Winco for over a dollar less than I can buy it at Fred's? OMG...maybe winco's tillamook butter is actually coming from China?? do you suppose!??? How DARE winco buy in large quantities and then not mark it up as high as safeway and freds do. What kind of fair business sense is that?!??? Poor Safeway can't compete. Hey, I have an idea...let's go totally socialistic/communistic...then everyone makes the same, no matter what! oh wait, we are already headed that way....
I am not a big proponent of walmart, nor am I a spy (you flatter me), but I do support their right to make whatever profit they can...this is a capitalist nation!(so far) I also support your right to not shop walmart. we all need to stand up for our beliefs..so you go!
It's a great country, isn't it?
peoplematter

United States

#18 Jun 29, 2007
Oh please don't start with the whole dumb commie argument ad nauseum..
If you are flattered by being a spy for walmart.. you are not even worth speaking to.

Walmart has the worst grades of any BIG BOX..

By the way Winco is employee owned..

Go ahead and shop at Walmart.. just keep it out of my neighborhood. we don't want you!
Claudia in Saint Helens

Portland, OR

#19 Jun 29, 2007
by the way...i know so well that winco is employee owned, thanks for the commonly known info.

If you think communism is dumb...you will probably soon have a chance to find out just how dumb it is...not quite my word for it.

As for the Walmart spy...they have them? huh. how bout that. something only an insider would know i guess.

Thank you for giving me permission to shop walmart. As for keeping it out of your neighborhood, I can't control that, nor would I try. again you flatter me with more influence than I really have.

The rednecks of Saint Helens are sooooo glad you don't want us cuz we sort of like the paper mill being the only stench we live around.
Slickrick

United States

#20 Jul 26, 2007
Claudia stumbled upona great insight. Majority of protestors are paid and don't give a rats ass what cause they are protesting. A group of small business owners and maybe even Safeway clamour up together and pay these guys so Walmart will not come into their neighborhoods. All these people know that Walmart will charge less, which is better for the consumer but bad for them because they don't want to lower their prices. As a consumer, I'd rather go to Walmart for a one stop shop with lower prices than drive around from store to store and pay more to buy items. Don't fall into the scam just because you saw a documentary about Walmart made by big Hollywood company and yes it was made by a big Hollywood company.

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