Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

There are 21534 comments on the Denver Post story from Jun 6, 2013, titled Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake. In it, Denver Post reports that:

Engaged gay couple Dave Mullins, second from left, and Charlie Craig, left, were joined by a small group of supporters in Lakewood on Aug. 4, 2012 to protest and boycott the Masterpiece Cakeshop at 3355 S. Wadsworth Blvd. The couple went to the cake shop, and the owner turned the couple away saying he would not make them a rainbow-themed wedding ... (more)

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Evilgelicalling

Philadelphia, PA

#911 Jan 20, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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Lol. Yes the cake. Wedding cal to be specific.
I said you! Not lgbt.
Hey alcoholic fer jaysus, we know cakes have a lot of calories.

It's a real concern. Unlike fears of marriage equality.
Evilgelicalling

Philadelphia, PA

#912 Jan 20, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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Good non answer.
Hey Cletus, call you A.A. sponsor.

That post wouldn't make sense to a teacher of first graders. The NSA could not decrypt it.

I think in inadvertently admitting what is obvious - that the CO bigot broke the law - you were trying to complain about public nudity at S.F. pride parades.

Except that nudity is cordoned off. There is year round nudity which is not associated with pride parades there. Local officials have many laws, some of which conflict with each other regarding nudity. They can allocate law enforcement to tackle important matters. And many cities, even NYC, have standing orders not to arrest women, for example, for going topless anymore.

The rest of us know that a business denying service to customers on the basis of some perceived categorization which is protected is semi serious legally and definitely serious in terms of resulting civil damages.

It is the bigot baker who is whining. He could have just obeyed the law. Then he could have just settled. He didn't. Same for the other christers around the country purposefully doing the same thing to start their own test cases in the courts. It's the fundie theocrats' last stand. They've gone all in on this issue - of the "right" to be bigots.

Since: Oct 10

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#913 Jan 20, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>The same freedom that gives you the right to plan and execute a parade.

Don't get mad at me that no one joins you.
The same freedom to only sell a wedding cake to a man-woman married couple.

Do get mad at anyone the that very few will join him.

Since: Oct 10

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#914 Jan 20, 2014
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>The only thing you have proven is that you are a closed-minded, irrational bigot with a big chip on your shoulder and nothing resembling a clue to be found in your head. One last time before I scrape my shoes and leave you to whine and wallow in your willful ignorance and unfortunate choices of hatreds. Illegal acts, not permitted at pride events, they either make them stop or arrest them, you know, like at Mardi Gras or any of the myriad of other events where heteros behave crudely. No one is forced to watch gay pride parades or any other parade that might pass by. you didn't even have to look up your PG-13 rated, not quite soft core porn collection.
You credibility is blown... The blatant dishonesty is nothing less than sad.

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#915 Jan 20, 2014
Evilgelicalling wrote:
<quoted text>Hey alcoholic fer jaysus, we know cakes have a lot of calories.

It's a real concern. Unlike fears of marriage equality.
"Marriage equality" is a myth. The man-woman relationship is NOT equal to the gay relationship, and it's intellectually dishonest to contend that it is BUT that's a different thread.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#916 Jan 20, 2014
Evilgelicalling wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Cletus, call you A.A. sponsor.

That post wouldn't make sense to a teacher of first graders. The NSA could not decrypt it.

I think in inadvertently admitting what is obvious - that the CO bigot broke the law - you were trying to complain about public nudity at S.F. pride parades.

Except that nudity is cordoned off. There is year round nudity which is not associated with pride parades there. Local officials have many laws, some of which conflict with each other regarding nudity. They can allocate law enforcement to tackle important matters. And many cities, even NYC, have standing orders not to arrest women, for example, for going topless anymore.

The rest of us know that a business denying service to customers on the basis of some perceived categorization which is protected is semi serious legally and definitely serious in terms of resulting civil damages.

It is the bigot baker who is whining. He could have just obeyed the law. Then he could have just settled. He didn't. Same for the other christers around the country purposefully doing the same thing to start their own test cases in the courts. It's the fundie theocrats' last stand. They've gone all in on this issue - of the "right" to be bigots.
You hold you right the baker holds his.
Evilgelicalling

Philadelphia, PA

#917 Jan 20, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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"Marriage equality" is a myth. The man-woman relationship is NOT equal to the gay relationship, and it's intellectually dishonest to contend that it is BUT that's a different thread.
You stupid, disgusting bigot, it expressly is not a myth in most of the industrialized democracies now.

You are in denial about this, as you are about your evident drunken posting this afternoon.

You might not like marriage equality, but that is not the same as maintaining it is a "myth," you stupid, anti rational cretin.
Evilgelicalling

Philadelphia, PA

#918 Jan 20, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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You hold you right the baker holds his.
Look, the fundie missing link is drunk again. And not on communion wine, I'll wager.

Since: Oct 10

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#919 Jan 21, 2014
Evilgelicalling wrote:
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You stupid, disgusting bigot, it expressly is not a myth in most of the industrialized democracies now.
You are in denial about this, as you are about your evident drunken posting this afternoon.
You might not like marriage equality, but that is not the same as maintaining it is a "myth," you stupid, anti rational cretin.
“You stupid, disgusting bigot, it expressly is not a myth in most of the industrialized democracies now.” Really? Please tell us exactly how a man-woman relationship is the EXACT SAME (with is what EQUAL means) as a gay relationship?

“You might not like marriage equality, but that is not the same as maintaining it is a "myth," you stupid, anti rational cretin.” It’s a matter of FACT not whether I like it or not. If you are CLAIMING “Marriage Equality” Then you need to show how a man-woman relationship is the SAME as a gay relationship. You may not like that, but you can’t dispute it.

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#920 Jan 21, 2014
Evilgelicalling wrote:
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Look, the fundie missing link is drunk again. And not on communion wine, I'll wager.
You can’t keep your rights and deny others… That’s un-American.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#923 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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...
Your lack of any argument in favor of insults is that of a 1st grader.
Honey, people who say the baker was "discriminating against a cake" need to keep quiet. Someone might tip off the nurse that you have escaped the institution.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#924 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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The same freedom to only sell a wedding cake to a man-woman married couple.
Obviously, that freedom only exists in your head.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#925 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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... Thought so
I wrote: "huh?" That means this: Your question makes no sense.
What negative was I trying to prove?
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#926 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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You can’t keep your rights and deny others… That’s un-American.
Do you ever write a reply that makes sense? What is un-American is willfully lying about a minority group. And I hate to tell you, but if the government has a legitimate interest, it may deny equal protection. Don't you know anything?
Skyy

Brookland, AR

#927 Jan 21, 2014
Larry wrote:
Why should American society bow to the pressure of the 3% of the population that is homosexual? Homosexuality might be a lifestyle chosen by a few, but it is still morally wrong and disgusting.
That is only your opinion. And we all know the old saying about opinions... And I do believe the percentage is 10% and possibly higher if you count bi-sexuals also.

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#928 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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"Marriage equality" is a myth. The man-woman relationship is NOT equal to the gay relationship, and it's intellectually dishonest to contend that it is BUT that's a different thread.
Bull. It is not REMOTELY "dishonest" in any way. This IS about equality, and hell yes same sex relationships ARE equal to straight ones. Marriage equality is a FACT.

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#929 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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So a group can surround businesses can break the law in favor of freedom but a baker can’t break the law if he’s a business owner? If you want freedom then it goes across the board you can’t exclude those you hate.
First off, that is NOT what happens at gay pride events. And NO you don't get to violate civil rights laws and say "Oh, but this OTHER person broke the law, so I can do whatever I want!" Doesn't work that way.

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#930 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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He not discriminating against a group, he’s discriminating the Cake. It’s a wedding cake that he believes if for man-woman couples Dr. King would be appalled at your posts.
Don't you DARE stand there and claim Dr. King would support your bigotry and hate, LIAR! This IS discrimination against a group, and if you think for a second King would support this discrimination, you don't know the first damn thing about Martin Luther King...like most on the extremist right.

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#931 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
Happy MLK day to all of you! Thank God for a strong Christian man who helped push forward civil liberties for ALL Americans and God bless America!
Insane hypocrisy. You claim to celebrate "civil rights for all Americans" and then want to OPPOSE civil rights for Americans who happen to be gay.
And yes, King was a Christian. He was also a socialist, pro-choice, and pro-gay rights, so the right's blasphemous perversion of what Christianity is gets blown up here.

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#932 Jan 21, 2014
Respect71 wrote:
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http://www.pbase.com/billphoto/image/12603663 ...
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In the City of San Francisco,“SEC. 4.01. DISORDERLY CONDUCT,(h) Expose his or her, public hair, buttocks, perineum, anal region or public hair region or any portion of the female breast at or below the areola thereof, except that this section shall not apply to children under the age of five years;”
This has ZIP to do with gay pride events, it is a TINY minority of people even at the wildest event, and at the overwhelming majority nothing remotely close to this happens.

The idea that all who support gay pride are "criminals" because of these puritanical laws is hysterical.

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