Lesser Known Baldwin Brother to Headline Ex-Gay Conference

Oct 18, 2013 Full story: EDGE 326

Right Wing Watch reports that actor Stephen Baldwin, brother of actor and liberal activist Alec Baldwin, will be a featured speaker at an ex-gay conference later this month.

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Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#124 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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Of course not, that's why they are husband and wife. They are not a 'family' until they share children.
Says who?

You get more desperate every day.

By the way, what exactly is YOUR interest in ex-gay articles? Hmmmm
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#125 Oct 23, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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There are multiple definitions of family, including a married couple.
Yes, in your dictionary, not in mine.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#126 Oct 23, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Aw.... poor wittle Wondering..... needs to feel special because he reproduced.
I bet your parents didn't feel special.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#127 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
They are my wife's family, not mine.
You are all one big happy family now, because of your marriage, like it or not.
Wondering wrote:
Of course not, that's why they are husband and wife. They are not a 'family' until they share children. Are you putting me on or are you really that stupid?
When I introduce my wife I don't say I'd like you to meet my family. Do you know anyone that does that?
No, because "family" is a plural word in that context. If you were talking with someone else and they pointed to your wife across the room and said "Is she family to you?", are you telling me that you'd say no? Even if you had no children, you still would NEVER refer to her as family? If someone asks a married, childless man if he has any family, should his answer be no?

Anyone related to you is family. Look and see if that amazing dictionary of yours has more than one definition. I'm betting it will.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#128 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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Just because once you had the stick you couldn't give up the lick doesn't mean that applies to everyone.
Actually it does.

Your sexual orientation can't be changed; only denied.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#129 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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Yes, in your dictionary, not in mine.
That's because you use the racist sexist & anti-gay dictionary.

What you call a family is irrelevant, like most of your gibberish.

It doesn't stop millions of same-sex and opposite-sex couples from creating families.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#130 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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You believe that if it makes you feel better. Marriage is all about children and family. It isn't for you because YOU and YOUR PARTNER CAN'T CREATE A FAMILY.
Sure we can ... and do.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#131 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
Family is simply people who are related, by blood.
So having a spouse does not make a family.

Only having children related by blood makes a family.

So a married couple that adopt children cannot be a family because they do not related by blood?

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Just trying to understand the perameters to be a family as you see them.

FYI, the rest of us do not have such narrow definitions. You and Pietro must use the same dictionary.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#132 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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Deciding not to have children isn't sterility by choice.
The possibility existed for them, it doesn't for you.
NOPE, they got married when she was in her mid fifties, IMPOSSIBLE for her to get pregnant. She broke your rule of folks ONLY marrying for procreation, like cows or chickens or some farm animal, your idea of a perfect marriage, pumping out babies every 11 months or so, give mom a chance to cool down. You must LOVE the Duggard family.

I must tell my neighbors, when they get back from Canada next week, that their STERILE marriage is a fraud and should not been allowed to happen, since it was IMPOSSIBLE for them to breed new offspring.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#133 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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Family is simply people who are related, by blood.
If you want to make a new entry into the gay dictionary that changes the meaning of 'family' you can, it will never make it to the dictionary everyone else uses.
Other nonsense in your post deleted.
I would HOPE your parents, your family, were NOT related by blood. It might explain a lot about your whack thought processes if you think blood relatives should reproduce.

Also, if hetero parents adopt, according to you, they are NOT family and thus wrong and immoral.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#134 Oct 24, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
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You are all one big happy family now, because of your marriage, like it or not.
<quoted text>
No, because "family" is a plural word in that context. If you were talking with someone else and they pointed to your wife across the room and said "Is she family to you?", are you telling me that you'd say no? Even if you had no children, you still would NEVER refer to her as family? If someone asks a married, childless man if he has any family, should his answer be no?
Anyone related to you is family. Look and see if that amazing dictionary of yours has more than one definition. I'm betting it will.
Correct, a new experience for you, I would refer to her as my wife.
If I had no children and someone asked if I had any family I would tell them I do. A mother, father and possibly brothers and sisters.

Like I said, you can put any definition you want to in your gay dictionary, it isn't in the dictionary everyone else uses.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#135 Oct 24, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
It doesn't stop millions of same-sex and opposite-sex couples from creating families.
You mean acquiring families. You can't create one.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#136 Oct 24, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Sure we can ... and do.
No you don't.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#137 Oct 24, 2013
DaveinMass wrote:
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1. So having a spouse does not make a family.
2. Only having children related by blood makes a family.
3. So a married couple that adopt children cannot be a family because they do not related by blood?
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4. You and Pietro must use the same dictionary.
1. Correct.
2. I didn't say that.
3. I didn't say that.
4. It isn't the gay dictionary, that's obvious.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#138 Oct 24, 2013
Curteese wrote:
She broke your rule of folks ONLY marrying for procreation, like cows or chickens or some farm animal, your idea of a perfect marriage, pumping out babies every 11 months or so, give mom a chance to cool down. You must LOVE the Duggard family.
I must tell my neighbors, when they get back from Canada next week, that their STERILE marriage is a fraud and should not been allowed to happen, since it was IMPOSSIBLE for them to breed new offspring.
My rule? You're off in fantasy land again. You tell your neighbors whatever you want to.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#139 Oct 24, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>I would HOPE your parents, your family, were NOT related by blood. It might explain a lot about your whack thought processes if you think blood relatives should reproduce.
Also, if hetero parents adopt, according to you, they are NOT family and thus wrong and immoral.
Is your problem drugs, alcohol, stupidity or all of the above?
I hope no one has to deal with you on a daily basis. If there is someone, they have my sincere sympathy.

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#140 Oct 24, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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No you don't.
Again, you show that you do not know what a family is.

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#141 Oct 24, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct, a new experience for you, I would refer to her as my wife.
If I had no children and someone asked if I had any family I would tell them I do. A mother, father and possibly brothers and sisters.
Like I said, you can put any definition you want to in your gay dictionary, it isn't in the dictionary everyone else uses.
So, now you are saying that gay people don't have parents and siblings?

Good grief!

Or, are you back to saying that only couples with children who are genetically related to both parents are families?

You know that one is ridiculous. Why, half the families in this country would line up to prove you wrong.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#142 Oct 24, 2013
Wondering wrote:
1. Correct.
The rest of the world counts their spouses, sans children, as family.
Wondering wrote:
2. I didn't say that.
Wondering in post #109
"Family is simply people who are related, by blood."
Wondering wrote:
3. I didn't say that.
Since adopted children are NOT related by blood, by your definition (post 109) they cannot be 'family'. This is what happens when you make inane pronouncements not supported by the law.
AWondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#143 Oct 24, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
By the way, what exactly is YOUR interest in ex-gay articles? Hmmmm
Easy one, It's refreshing to see people that want to be normal.
I know, being gay is normal for you.

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