Lesser Known Baldwin Brother to Headline Ex-Gay Conference

Oct 18, 2013 Full story: EDGE 326

Right Wing Watch reports that actor Stephen Baldwin, brother of actor and liberal activist Alec Baldwin, will be a featured speaker at an ex-gay conference later this month.

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“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#104 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
No, you'll be a married couple.
And a married couple is a family of two. Is this difficult for you?
Wondering wrote:
A sterile by choice married couple.
I get the feeling you have no idea what "sterile" means. But it doesn't matter. Lots of straight married couples are sterile by choice. Many are sterile by nature. They can still get married. No one hassles them over their plans to make children.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#105 Oct 23, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
<quoted text>
And a married couple is a family of two. Is this difficult for you?
<quoted text>
I get the feeling you have no idea what "sterile" means. But it doesn't matter. Lots of straight married couples are sterile by choice. Many are sterile by nature. They can still get married. No one hassles them over their plans to make children.
A married couple is a married couple. This is difficult for you.
A family is a married couple with children.

Straight families can't be sterile by choice. That choice is reserved for gays.

fam·i·ly

/&#712;fam(&#601;)l &#275;/

noun

noun: family;&#8195;plural noun: families

1.

a group consisting of parents and children living together in a household.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#106 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
A married couple is a married couple. This is difficult for you.
A family is a married couple with children.
Straight families can't be sterile by choice. That choice is reserved for gays.
fam·i·ly
/&#712;fam(&#601;)l &#275;/
noun
noun: family;&#8195;plural noun: families
1.
a group consisting of parents and children living together in a household.
Family is simply people who are related. That's what marriage does: it takes two unrelated people and makes them INTO family. That bond is honored and respected above all others, and is protected by law. For MOST families, anyway.

And plenty of people are sterile by choice, don't be ridiculous. Certainly you've heard of vasectomies, tubal ligations? These are often choices that heterosexuals make, and it won't make them ineligible for marriage.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#107 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
A married couple is a married couple. This is difficult for you.
A family is a married couple with children.
Straight families can't be sterile by choice. That choice is reserved for gays.
fam·i·ly
/&#712;fam(&#601;)l &#275;/
noun
noun: family;&#8195;plural noun: families
1.
a group consisting of parents and children living together in a household.
So your wife was not a member of your family before your children were born?

Courious.

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#108 Oct 23, 2013
fr Wondering":

>A married couple is a married couple. This is difficult for you.
A family is a married couple with children.<

No, it's difficult for YOU.

A family is a group of people who pledge to care for each other. I married my WIFE five years ago.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#109 Oct 23, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
<quoted text>
Family is simply people who are related. That's what marriage does: it takes two unrelated people and makes them INTO family.
Family is simply people who are related, by blood.
If you want to make a new entry into the gay dictionary that changes the meaning of 'family' you can, it will never make it to the dictionary everyone else uses.

Other nonsense in your post deleted.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#110 Oct 23, 2013
DaveinMass wrote:
<quoted text>
So your wife was not a member of your family before your children were born?
Courious.
Correct. She is my wife. When we had children we became a family.
I thought everyone knew this stuff.

Before I married my 'family' consisted of my parents and siblings.
My aunts and uncles and their children. After marriage I didn't gain any uncles and aunts, brothers or sisters, cousins or grandparents. Why don't you know this stuff?
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#111 Oct 23, 2013
Pattysboi wrote:
fr Wondering":
>A married couple is a married couple. This is difficult for you.
A family is a married couple with children.<
No, it's difficult for YOU.
A family is a group of people who pledge to care for each other. I married my WIFE five years ago.
Put that in your version of the dictionary, it isn't in mine.
Your wife isn't a family, she's your wife. Wow, you people are dumb.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#112 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
Family is simply people who are related, by blood.
If you want to make a new entry into the gay dictionary that changes the meaning of 'family' you can, it will never make it to the dictionary everyone else uses.
Other nonsense in your post deleted.
By blood? Is a husband related to his wife by blood? Obviously not. Family is simply people who are related. Some by blood, some by other means, such as marriage or adoption.

There are MANY definitions of family, even in your dictionary. Few dictionaires have only ONE definition of ANY word.

But, I'll keep your objections in mind when I marry my partner. We'll see if they have any bearing on how the state treats us. I couldn't really care less about what dictionaries think, only what the government thinks.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#113 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
Correct. She is my wife. When we had children we became a family.
I thought everyone knew this stuff.
Before I married my 'family' consisted of my parents and siblings.
My aunts and uncles and their children. After marriage I didn't gain any uncles and aunts, brothers or sisters, cousins or grandparents. Why don't you know this stuff?
You gained in-laws. They are now your family, too. And not by blood.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#114 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
Correct. She is my wife. When we had children we became a family.
I thought everyone knew this stuff.
Before I married my 'family' consisted of my parents and siblings.
My aunts and uncles and their children. After marriage I didn't gain any uncles and aunts, brothers or sisters, cousins or grandparents. Why don't you know this stuff?
We don't know this stuff because YOU have strange ideas of what it takes to be a family.

To be clear, from your post, you believe that a married husband and wife (to say nothing of husband and husband, wife and wife) is NOT a family; that a family can only exist if there are one or more children.

For the rest of us, as soon as we marry, our new wife or husband becomes our family. This happens before any children JOIN the family.

As soon as we married, our 'next of kin' was transfered from our parents to our new spouse. And we become teir 'next of kin' as a new family.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#115 Oct 23, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
<quoted text>
You gained in-laws. They are now your family, too. And not by blood.
They are my wife's family, not mine. Like I said, do your own version of the dictionary. Whatever makes you happy, then there's reality, it's not part of your world.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#116 Oct 23, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
<quoted text>
By blood? Is a husband related to his wife by blood?
Of course not, that's why they are husband and wife. They are not a 'family' until they share children. Are you putting me on or are you really that stupid?

When I introduce my wife I don't say I'd like you to meet my family. Do you know anyone that does that?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#117 Oct 23, 2013
chomikuj wrote:
<quoted text>
That's right, there's a lot of ex-gays around. There is also a lot of ex-alcoholics and ex-drug addicts.
You don't have to stay messed up your whole life. There is hope.
Actually there are no "ex-gays"; they're just self-hating re-closeted homosexuals.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#118 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
A married couple is a married couple. This is difficult for you.
A family is a married couple with children.
Straight families can't be sterile by choice. That choice is reserved for gays.
fam·i·ly
/&#712;fam(&#601;)l &#275;/
noun
noun: family;&#8195;plural noun: families
1.
a group consisting of parents and children living together in a household.
I guess you've never heard of vasectomies & hysterectomies.

There are indeed sterile straight families by choice.

There are multiple definitions of family, including a married couple. Not surprising an admitted anti-gay such as yourself would ignore the other definitions.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#119 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
Of course not, that's why they are husband and wife. They are not a 'family' until they share children. Are you putting me on or are you really that stupid?
When I introduce my wife I don't say I'd like you to meet my family. Do you know anyone that does that?
So your wife cannot be your family but your son or daughter can be your family?

And your in-laws are definitely NOT your family.... oh, now I understand. Your in-laws have made it clear to you that you are not THEIR family putting as much distance between themselves and you. That I can understand!

“Adam and Steve”

Since: Aug 08

Earth

#120 Oct 23, 2013
Here is a definition of "family" from the U.S. Census Bureau:

"A group of two or more people who reside together and who are related by birth, marriage, or adoption."

http://factfinder2.census.gov/help/en/glossar...
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#121 Oct 23, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually there are no "ex-gays"; they're just self-hating re-closeted homosexuals.
Just because once you had the stick you couldn't give up the lick doesn't mean that applies to everyone.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#122 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you'll be a married couple. A sterile by choice married couple.
Aw.... poor wittle Wondering..... needs to feel special because he reproduced. Hopefully your spawn will be sterile until you add some major amounts of chlorine to your gene pool. The world doesn't need more stupid people.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#123 Oct 23, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Just because once you had the stick you couldn't give up the lick doesn't mean that applies to everyone.
Oh really? And exactly what is the success rate for conversion therapy? I'll tell you: about 0.05%! WOW! Better put all your money in NARTH! With odds like that, you could be rich in about 15 billion years.

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