Lesser Known Baldwin Brother to Headl...

Lesser Known Baldwin Brother to Headline Ex-Gay Conference

There are 326 comments on the EDGE story from Oct 18, 2013, titled Lesser Known Baldwin Brother to Headline Ex-Gay Conference. In it, EDGE reports that:

Right Wing Watch reports that actor Stephen Baldwin, brother of actor and liberal activist Alec Baldwin, will be a featured speaker at an ex-gay conference later this month.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#42 Oct 20, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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If someone said to me, you have a choice of being gay or straight, I'd definitely opt for straight. I am anti-gay.
Thank you for finally admitting that you're anti-gay, just like I've said ALL ALONG!

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to getting better.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#43 Oct 20, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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So then what's your problem with polygamy?
A guy marrying his car?
A girl marrying her cat?
Don't be so stupid as to say there are laws against those.
Polygamy harms women, children, and society.

Cars can't consent; neither can cats.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#44 Oct 20, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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Those are just laws that can be changed, just like marriage laws are being changed for gays. If a man married his car what harm would that cause you? If a woman married her cat what harm would that cause you? Unless it made the national news you wouldn't even know about it. Cats are dependents, you just can't claim them as a deduction.
Feel free to work on making that legal.

Have fun with that.

Meanwhile we'll continue to win marriage equality for same-sex couples in state after state like we just did in New Jersey.

Up next- New Mexico, Hawaii, & Illinois.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#45 Oct 20, 2013
Otter in the Ozarks wrote:
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snyper, you have your Baldwins mixed up. Alec, the most successful one, supports us. Stephen, the least successful and worst looking one (and the one who's done way too many drugs over the years), is against us.
Nope. Alec, too.

Alec converted to the Orthodox religion.

“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#46 Oct 20, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Nope. Alec, too.
Alec converted to the Orthodox religion.
Where are you getting your information? I know that Alec used some slurs when blasting out at the person or people who accused his wife of being disrespectful at someone's funeral earlier this year, but he later apologized profusely, and as several gay organizations and commentators noted, his rhetoric in that one instance was not directed at anyone's sexual orientation, and did not negate the years and years of positive activism that he has contributed to support our community.

Has something else happened more recently?

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#47 Oct 20, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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Those are just laws that can be changed, just like marriage laws are being changed for gays. If a man married his car what harm would that cause you? If a woman married her cat what harm would that cause you? Unless it made the national news you wouldn't even know about it. Cats are dependents, you just can't claim them as a deduction.
Uh, a car isn't a consenting adult, neither is a cat.

Let's knock off this silly scenario, may we please? If that's the best you can come up with, then go play alone.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#48 Oct 20, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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Those are just laws that can be changed, just like marriage laws are being changed for gays. If a man married his car what harm would that cause you? If a woman married her cat what harm would that cause you? Unless it made the national news you wouldn't even know about it. Cats are dependents, you just can't claim them as a deduction.
Marriage in all jurisdictions in the U.S. requires both the written consent of both parties, and the verbal consent of both parties.

Please explain how a car, or a cat, or anything that is not human, could give their written consent, and their verbal consent to be married.

I eagerly await your scholarly reply !

:)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#49 Oct 21, 2013
Otter in the Ozarks wrote:
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Where are you getting your information? I know that Alec used some slurs when blasting out at the person or people who accused his wife of being disrespectful at someone's funeral earlier this year, but he later apologized profusely, and as several gay organizations and commentators noted, his rhetoric in that one instance was not directed at anyone's sexual orientation, and did not negate the years and years of positive activism that he has contributed to support our community.
Has something else happened more recently?
There was an article about it on Yahoo News a few weeks ago, and I've seen the posters myself.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#50 Oct 21, 2013
Alec Baldwin's a liberal hypocritical homophobe. Everybody knows that already.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#51 Oct 21, 2013
I must completely RETRACT my accusation inre Baldwin's conversion to Orthodoxy.

Brain fart.

It was Tom Hanks.

(I plead jet lag)
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#52 Oct 21, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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1. Polygamy harms women, children, and society.
2. Cars can't consent; neither can cats.
1. Homosexuality and gay marriage have caused more harm to women, men and children. A man or women that has a traditional marriage and then later comes out as gay destroys the family. Happens a lot.
2. Simple change in the law, just like they did for gays.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#53 Oct 21, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Marriage in all jurisdictions in the U.S. requires both the written consent of both parties, and the verbal consent of both parties.
Please explain how a car, or a cat, or anything that is not human, could give their written consent, and their verbal consent to be married.
I eagerly await your scholarly reply !
:)
Simple change in the law.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#54 Oct 21, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Uh, a car isn't a consenting adult, neither is a cat.
Let's knock off this silly scenario, may we please? If that's the best you can come up with, then go play alone.
Category: Couples that can't reproduce
A woman and her cat.
A man and his car.
Two men.
Two women.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#55 Oct 21, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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Simple change in the law.
"Simple" ?!

And what has that got to do with equal marriage rights for American citizens who happen to be LGBT ?

And if a church, or other religious institution, marries a gay couple in their church in a religious ceremony, and the government refuses to legally recognize that marriage simply because they "don't like It", isn't that a violation of the First Amendment's protection of RELIGIOUS LIBERTY ?
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#56 Oct 21, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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"Simple" ?!
And what has that got to do with equal marriage rights for American citizens who happen to be LGBT ?
And if a church, or other religious institution, marries a gay couple in their church in a religious ceremony, and the government refuses to legally recognize that marriage simply because they "don't like It", isn't that a violation of the First Amendment's protection of RELIGIOUS LIBERTY ?
No. lides likes to quote that crap. Here's one for you and lides that applies to fees associated with Obamacare:

"If receiving insurance benefits runs counter to your religious beliefs (provided you belong to a religious group recognized by the federal government), no penalties are applicable for you."

That looks like a law to me and unless the word "recognized" has a different meaning in the gay dictionary then this law is a violation of the 1st Amendment. I wonder how certain bakery and photography shops feel about this.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#57 Oct 21, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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Simple change in the law.
Hardly "simple".

Laws are more than just the words written on the page. They have behind them a long line of logical reasoning and legal theory.

Contract Law is especially so endowed.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#58 Oct 21, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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"Simple" ?!
And what has that got to do with equal marriage rights for American citizens who happen to be LGBT ?
And if a church, or other religious institution, marries a gay couple in their church in a religious ceremony, and the government refuses to legally recognize that marriage simply because they "don't like It", isn't that a violation of the First Amendment's protection of RELIGIOUS LIBERTY ?
The government DOESN'T recognize church marriages. It recognizes Marriage LICENSES.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#59 Oct 21, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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No. lides likes to quote that crap. Here's one for you and lides that applies to fees associated with Obamacare:
"If receiving insurance benefits runs counter to your religious beliefs (provided you belong to a religious group recognized by the federal government), no penalties are applicable for you."
That looks like a law to me and unless the word "recognized" has a different meaning in the gay dictionary then this law is a violation of the 1st Amendment. I wonder how certain bakery and photography shops feel about this.
I'm absolutely opposed to OBAMACARE. it's nothing more than Stalinism-lite.
NoOne

Chesapeake, OH

#60 Oct 21, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>I'm absolutely opposed to OBAMACARE. it's nothing more than Stalinism-lite.
No one is afraid if you filthy a:ss queers. Get over it [email protected]
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#61 Oct 21, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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I'm absolutely opposed to OBAMACARE. it's nothing more than Stalinism-lite.
That has nothing to do with the religious association.

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