Lesser Known Baldwin Brother to Headl...

Lesser Known Baldwin Brother to Headline Ex-Gay Conference

There are 326 comments on the EDGE story from Oct 18, 2013, titled Lesser Known Baldwin Brother to Headline Ex-Gay Conference. In it, EDGE reports that:

Right Wing Watch reports that actor Stephen Baldwin, brother of actor and liberal activist Alec Baldwin, will be a featured speaker at an ex-gay conference later this month.

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Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#184 Oct 25, 2013
DaveinMass wrote:
I know how you and Pietro like to play games over semantics.
That's hilarious!

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#185 Oct 25, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
She doesn't know how stupid you are, I haven't told her. Again, for the chronically stupid:
A family:
1 husband
1 wife
1 or more children
A married couple that is acknowledged in all 50 states:
1 husband
1 wife
If you need more help with that, ask your mommy.
Most of us in the real world would count our spouse as family. That you do not is a strange notion.

A family:
1 husband and 1 wife
or
1 husband and 1 wife and 1 or more children

I dare say even most of those opposed to same-sex marriage would include their spouse as family.

I would include theses other combinations as family. Many states and the federal government do too.

2 married men
or
2 married women
or
2 married men and their children
or
2 married women and their children

Oh, and I did ask my mommy. She and her husband (my dad) were in fact family before any of us kids came along.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#186 Oct 25, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Then try and keep up. Post 136 was the one under discussion. BTW, I did create a family with my spouse, you can't create one with your chosen partner.
Yes I can. I can adopt. Are you stupid.... oh wait.... yes, you are.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#187 Oct 25, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
My wife is my wife. We are legally related and our marriage is respected in all 50 states and in the church. Read that again if you have difficulty understanding it the first time.
I've read it 10 times, and have happily quoted you with your exact post. YOU said families must be blood relatives. You can deny till the cows come home, but those are your words.

Sorry, you make it TOO easy for us.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#188 Oct 25, 2013
DaveinMass wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of us in the real world would count our spouse as family.
Of course your spouse is part of your family, she's the wife and the Mom. What was that about semantics? You are either ineffectively playing with words or you're dumber than a shoe. Which is it?
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#189 Oct 25, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Yes I can. I can adopt. Are you stupid.... oh wait.... yes, you are.
You too are dumber than a shoe.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#190 Oct 25, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>I've read it 10 times, and have happily quoted you with your exact post. YOU said families must be blood relatives. You can deny till the cows come home, but those are your words.
Sorry, you make it TOO easy for us.
WHAHAHAHAHA! Do you want to talk about family inside or outside of a marriage. Outside of marriage my family consists of blood relatives. Inside my marriage my family consists of my wife and family. I'm really trying to make this easy for you. I guess I can't dumb it down to your level.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#191 Oct 25, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not my dictionary, it's the dictionary. I know, gays have their own. You should start your own boy scouts too.
No, you obviously use the racist sexist anti-gay dictionary.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#192 Oct 25, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
I said gay couples can't. I didn't say gays couldn't. Sheeple is proof of that. He had a child with his sister-in-law. For the record, just so you understand, his sister-in-law is not his husband.
Except you got that one wrong as usual.

But feel free to keep making crap up to suit your anti-gay rhetoric.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#193 Oct 25, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
So easy to dispose of an opposite sex partner.
I bet she meant something to you when you were trying to convince her to have your child. BTW, no one had two dads and everyone has a mother.
I've never had an opposite sex partner to dispose of.

How our child was conceived is irrelevant.

MILLIONS of kids have 2 dads or 2 moms; MILLIONS of kids have no mom or no dad.

But keep up your lame attempts to denigrate our family; it only helps us when we go to court to win marriage equality like we just did in New Jersey and the pending decision in New Mexico.

You anti-gays are the best thing to happen to the marriage equality movement.

Keep up the good work!

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#194 Oct 25, 2013
Wondering wrote:
It's not my dictionary, it's the dictionary. I know, gays have their own. You should start your own boy scouts too.
Man, spouses are family, whether you like it or not. How dumb. If not, then what are they? Fan club members? Groupies? Co-administrators? They're family. You don't HAVE to try to be so contrary. You don't HAVE to take the knee-jerk opposite opinion to gays. You won't TURN gay just by agreeing with a gay person about something.

Gay people do not have their own dictionaries, no matter how much you would like us to be separated and walled-off from everyone that you consider human. We don't need "our own" ANYTHING, because we're the same as you, and we're part of everything that you're part of. Quit being such a dehumanizing, exclusionary git.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#195 Oct 25, 2013
Wondering wrote:
my family consists of my wife and family.
Redundant, and self-contradictory.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#196 Oct 25, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course your spouse is part of your family, she's the wife and the Mom. What was that about semantics? You are either ineffectively playing with words or you're dumber than a shoe. Which is it?
Wondering, post #88
"No, you'll be a married couple." This in reply to "When I marry my partner, we'll be a family of two."

Wondering, post #105
"A married couple is a married couple. A family is a married couple with children."

Wondering, post #110
"She is my wife. When we had children we became a family."

Wondering, post #111
"Your wife isn't a family, she's your wife."

Wondering, post #116
"Of course not, that's why they are husband and wife. They are not a 'family' until they share children."

----

Need I find any other references where you explicitly exclude your spouse/wife as 'family'.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#197 Oct 25, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
I've never had an opposite sex partner to dispose of.
How our child was conceived is irrelevant.
Some woman gave birth to your child, she was your partner in that deal. Now that you have what you want you call her irrelevant. You couldn't have done it without her.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#198 Oct 25, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
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Man, spouses are family, whether you like it or not.
They are husbands and wives, whether you like it or not. I have never introduced my wife as my family, always as my wife. Of course she is part of our family, she's the Mom.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#199 Oct 25, 2013
DaveinMass wrote:
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Wondering, post #88
"No, you'll be a married couple." This in reply to "When I marry my partner, we'll be a family of two."
Wondering, post #105
"A married couple is a married couple. A family is a married couple with children."
Wondering, post #110
"She is my wife. When we had children we became a family."
Wondering, post #111
"Your wife isn't a family, she's your wife."
Wondering, post #116
"Of course not, that's why they are husband and wife. They are not a 'family' until they share children."
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Need I find any other references where you explicitly exclude your spouse/wife as 'family'.
All of those statements are accurate. Why do you insist on making yourself look a little more stupid each time you respond?

If you want to have spouse mean something else then you go ahead and have it mean whatever you want it to. Do you know what some married couples do? They start a family. If you want to believe that means they each go out and marry more men and women you can, I don't care how stupid you look.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#200 Oct 25, 2013
Wondering wrote:
They are husbands and wives, whether you like it or not.
Yes, spouses are husbands and wives. That doesn't mean they can't ALSO be family.
Wondering wrote:
I have never introduced my wife as my family, always as my wife. Of course she is part of our family, she's the Mom.
So she's part of your family, but you've never introduced her as your family. That makes all kinds of sense.

Surely you can see that all the people you are related to are your family. Your wife is your family, your kids are your family, your parents, siblings, aunts & uncles, etc etc. They may all have individual names for their specific relationship, but each and everyone of them, EVEN SPOUSES, are family to you.

Why do you keep saying that your wife is NOT family, while elsewhere you say that she IS family? Which is it? Which is your position?
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#201 Oct 25, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
You too are dumber than a shoe.
Honey, if you think adoption doesn't make a family, you have bigger problems....
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#202 Oct 25, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
Why do you keep saying that your wife is NOT family, while elsewhere you say that she IS family? Which is it? Which is your position?
She is family, she's the Mom. I can't dumb this down anymore.
If you don't get it, blame your schooling.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#203 Oct 25, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
Honey, if you think adoption doesn't make a family, you have bigger problems....
Dickbreath, I said it did. We all know you have bigger problems.
I said you and your partner are incapable of creating a family. Dumb is a prerequisite for gay posters.

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