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#21 Feb 23, 2013
small town wrote:
When hospitals write off owed payments they get government funding to make up for the loss or it can be used as a tax write off. Medicare not paying for services isn't the big issue. They are the lowest payer of any insurance. The problem with MCH is that they aren't a good hospital. When a person goes to the ER multiple times in a short period and they are sent home being told nothing is wrong only to be admitted 48 hrs later for something that has gotten so bad they transfer that patient to another hospital. When something like this could be avoided if they would have just done their job in the ER. Alot of the Drs in the county won't send their patients there! What's that saying about "our" hospital?
Tax write offs to what organization? Non-profit hospitals have tax-free status, although Obummercare might change that. http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidwhelan/2012/...

A lot of our Dr's sold out the community to Regional and no longer send patients to MCH because it's in their monetary interest, not because of the standard of care. Don't let your Dr bully you into going to a specific hospital. My Dr lies to patients telling them they must have labs done at the Muhl Med Cntr or procedures at Regional ( now Baptist), but I know better and go where I want.

Since: Jun 12

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#22 Feb 23, 2013
Old Man River wrote:
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Im guessing you didnt read my post before replying. Im saying that because the services are poor, people are NOT using MCH for services. Beds are empty all the time and foul ups are common. People that have decent insurance and can afford to go somewhere there are qualified specialists in house do. Every hospital and business deals with junkies and people who try not to pay bills. So sounds like they have a accounts receivable dept problem if they are failing to collect.
NOW, if you are wanting to argue that medicaid and medicare are failed programs, i agree. Unfortunately people who supported Obama and his Obamacare thought it was going to all unicorns and lollipops and everyone was going to get free healthcare without any downsides. Now we see, its going to mean tougher performance standards, understaffed hospitals, underpaid staff which will mean doors closing at MCH.
Lastly, a little lesson on "non-profits" so you dont get confused in the future. That word simply means that a business does not have investors that they are paying dividends. It does not mean that it is, in any way, OK for the business to loose money. That is called a failing business model. Successful non-profits all over the world make all kinds of "profits". That money has to be put back into the business in the form of improvements or added services instead of paid to investors. I know its tough
I read your post and in this one you explained it a little clearer. But I think the hospital is so empty more because of our Dr's selling out there patients and sending them to Baptist and less that it has to do with patients desire to go elsewhere. MCH can't afford to hire specialists because again, they don't have the money. It's also partly because we are a small community.

I understand what a non-profit organization is. http://smallbusiness.chron.com/business-finan...
After doing research, more than 50% of the non-profit hospitals in the US have financial difficulty for previously mentioned reasons. It can't be, for all of those hospital, because of poor care that patients are going elsewhere.

Losing MCH would be deleterious to our community. The pros of the small hospital tax increase far outweigh the cons.
Old Man River

Madisonville, KY

#23 Feb 23, 2013
Well- wrote:
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I read your post and in this one you explained it a little clearer. But I think the hospital is so empty more because of our Dr's selling out there patients and sending them to Baptist and less that it has to do with patients desire to go elsewhere. MCH can't afford to hire specialists because again, they don't have the money. It's also partly because we are a small community.
I understand what a non-profit organization is. http://smallbusiness.chron.com/business-finan...
After doing research, more than 50% of the non-profit hospitals in the US have financial difficulty for previously mentioned reasons. It can't be, for all of those hospital, because of poor care that patients are going elsewhere.
Losing MCH would be deleterious to our community. The pros of the small hospital tax increase far outweigh the cons.
Just because more than 50% of the non-profit hospitals are having financial difficulty doesn't make it ok for MCH. More than 50% of young Americans are overweight...does that make it ok and healthy for me to become overweight. No. More than 50% of all US home mortgages are underwater...does that make it a good thing for me to buy a house i cant afford? Of course it doesn't. Why are small hospitals suffering...because they cant stand under the burden of Obamacare's policies, where hospitals are forced to offer care to of in exchange for low rates from medicaid, medicare and obamacare.

In fact, you answered many of your own questions. If there are not enough patients choosing to use MCH then the demand is not there and changes must be made to stay open. There are reasons successful businesses are near demanding populations with expendable incomes, because opening in the middle of the desert wouldn't be very effective. Why was the hospital built in Greenville instead of Hughes Kirk or South Carrolton in the first place?

People who can pay are traveling to centralized larger hospitals for better, more specialized care. The reasons why they travel are the same reasons Dr's wont send patients to MCH. Its the reason HHS placed MCH under a no pay status. Its the same reason this conversation was started a few days ago...because a woman was killed due to poor care and incompetence that could have been avoided.
listen

Nortonville, KY

#24 Feb 23, 2013
Well- wrote:
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How can the hospital update facilities and pay for a better staff when people refuse to pay their bills, insurance companies reduce payments yearly even though costs are rising, and the public doesn't even bring the hospital tax to a vote? Hospitals, like any business, need money to operate.
The taxpayer is not responsible for the hospital's mismanagement and debacles that have occurred over the years. Quit trying to highjack property owners to pay for your job. We are sick to death of it!
GMan

Greenville, KY

#25 Feb 25, 2013
listen wrote:
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The taxpayer is not responsible for the hospital's mismanagement and debacles that have occurred over the years. Quit trying to highjack property owners to pay for your job. We are sick to death of it!
COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER.
hmmm

Greenville, KY

#26 Feb 25, 2013
GMan wrote:
<quoted text>COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER.
What happen to this woman?
DrKillJoy

Owensboro, KY

#27 Feb 25, 2013
Old Man River wrote:
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Are you being sarcastic or serious here? I hope you are joking.
If not, do you even understand how businesses work? If people like your product or services demand more of them by visiting and paying for your services or goods. That is called capitalism. Forcing the public to prop up a failing business through force of taxation is socialism. Lets watch what public run health care does to insurance costs when Obamacare lands on us.
I have yet to see anyone turn 65 and refuse that government ran socialist health care called Medicare.
listen

Nortonville, KY

#28 Feb 26, 2013
DrKillJoy wrote:
<quoted text>I have yet to see anyone turn 65 and refuse that government ran socialist health care called Medicare.
Medicare is much cheaper to process than any private insurance claims. It cost 1/20th less to process a medicare claim versus an insurance claim. This whole country needs to be on one health care system, cradle to grave, and it is Medicare!
Get over it

Dunmor, KY

#29 Feb 27, 2013
I'm sick of people saying that the hospital is going to close!!!! How long have you all been saying that? Guess they are still open :)
TUBBY

Owensboro, KY

#30 Feb 27, 2013
WELL is a damn idiot. I'm sure most of you like me don't pay this person much attention. If it does not give breaks to the rich or scabs, This person is usually against it. Never try to explain civil rights, the rights to organize, never mention middle class, a decent wage, retirement health care, retirement income, social security, medicare, or any thing else that might be in the best interest of the middle class working person or the poor. He's a romney and republican cheerleader. Now mention breaks for rich corp. or billionaires that exploits middle class america, and he will justify these pricks all day. He thinks it's ok to have a winter mansion in florida as a loop hole, as well as all the other corupt loops holes created to help the rich bastards not paying taxes. He's against a decent minimum wage, just like all good republicans.
The truth is

Central City, KY

#31 Feb 27, 2013
I read the paper last week and I too was concerned because I am retired and have medicare, I have always paid my hospital bills and I have never worked at MCH so my post is nothing personal toward the hospital. I was worried that if I had to go to the hospital after Feb 27 ,the date medicare set as a cut off of payments to MCH, how was I going to pay the bill , so I called the administration dept, and they told me the hospital was doing everything possible to comply with medicare and Medicaid and that it would be posted in the local media if an agreement was not going to be reached. Well the deadline is here just hope I dont have an emergency to happen, I hate going out of town to a hospital when I have one only a few miles away. No MCH is not perfect and I too have complaints but all hospitals has and will always have complaints,
honestly

Cadiz, KY

#32 Feb 27, 2013
The truth is wrote:
I read the paper last week and I too was concerned because I am retired and have medicare, I have always paid my hospital bills and I have never worked at MCH so my post is nothing personal toward the hospital. I was worried that if I had to go to the hospital after Feb 27 ,the date medicare set as a cut off of payments to MCH, how was I going to pay the bill , so I called the administration dept, and they told me the hospital was doing everything possible to comply with medicare and Medicaid and that it would be posted in the local media if an agreement was not going to be reached. Well the deadline is here just hope I dont have an emergency to happen, I hate going out of town to a hospital when I have one only a few miles away. No MCH is not perfect and I too have complaints but all hospitals has and will always have complaints,
I am the one who posted on this thtead of what i read in the paper. I got jumped onto for posting it because they said i was trying to use scare tactics. I hope my post didnt scare you. YOU were one of the many i am worried about. I fear of what would happen if you had to go and your insurance was not accepted. I hope i didnt come off as trying to scare anyone. Its just that a lot of the elderly have very limited income and i cant help but worry about them. I pray for you that you stay healthy and MCH gets all of this straightened out. When i posted i knew nothing of something going haywire on the nurses floor or of a woman passing due to something dealing with the hospital. May God bless you!
listen

Nortonville, KY

#33 Feb 28, 2013
I heard they got it straightened out with Medicare. Anyone else hear this?
In the Know

Hopkinsville, KY

#34 Feb 28, 2013
wow wrote:
Obama is being blamed for everything that goes wrong.I think the people spoke loud and clear with the re-election of Obama.
Just following what Obama has done since he has taken office. Blamed everything that goes wrong on Bush or Chaney or the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy or whoever else he can find to lay blame on. People think Jimmy Carter was a bad president but wait until history is finished with O-socialist-bama
to the know

Dunmor, KY

#35 Feb 28, 2013
in the know wash the oil out of your hair,get out of the closet admit your gay just like your dad get your wife on birth control pill so see wont get knock up by anybody else god fu bless
TUBBY

Owensboro, KY

#36 Feb 28, 2013
In the Know wrote:
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Just following what Obama has done since he has taken office. Blamed everything that goes wrong on Bush or Chaney or the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy or whoever else he can find to lay blame on. People think Jimmy Carter was a bad president but wait until history is finished with O-socialist-bama
President Obama is just speaking the truth. My God, bush and cheney almost distroyed our nation, trying to help the rich. We lived through the worst recession in history. They left a 10 trillion dollar debt and 2 wars, one of which was started by the bush and cheney lies. Now the republicans wants this great president to be a jennie in a bottle and grant 3 wishes. There are good things going on in the economy. 5 million new jobs under this president. Car sales at an all time high. Housing sales, and new home are 60% improved. The stock market will hit an all time high today. Most importantly this president thinks everyone should do their part, now the rich is paying a little tax. He can't help it having a lazy republican do nothing house of representatives that blocks his every move. Maybe we as voters can help him with this in 2014. Oh by the way, late breaking news-bush will placed in our history books as the worst president in america's history. A liar as well.
In the Know

Hopkinsville, KY

#37 Feb 28, 2013
TUBBY wrote:
<quoted text>President Obama is just speaking the truth. My God, bush and cheney almost distroyed our nation, trying to help the rich. We lived through the worst recession in history. They left a 10 trillion dollar debt and 2 wars, one of which was started by the bush and cheney lies. Now the republicans wants this great president to be a jennie in a bottle and grant 3 wishes. There are good things going on in the economy. 5 million new jobs under this president. Car sales at an all time high. Housing sales, and new home are 60% improved. The stock market will hit an all time high today. Most importantly this president thinks everyone should do their part, now the rich is paying a little tax. He can't help it having a lazy republican do nothing house of representatives that blocks his every move. Maybe we as voters can help him with this in 2014. Oh by the way, late breaking news-bush will placed in our history books as the worst president in america's history. A liar as well.
I found CIM: What's it feel like to be an idiot who has no capability of ever having a rational thought? BTW, Obama told everyone he was gonna solve all the problems and he hasn't
GMan

Greenville, KY

#38 Feb 28, 2013
The truth is wrote:
I read the paper last week and I too was concerned because I am retired and have medicare, I have always paid my hospital bills and I have never worked at MCH so my post is nothing personal toward the hospital. I was worried that if I had to go to the hospital after Feb 27 ,the date medicare set as a cut off of payments to MCH, how was I going to pay the bill , so I called the administration dept, and they told me the hospital was doing everything possible to comply with medicare and Medicaid and that it would be posted in the local media if an agreement was not going to be reached. Well the deadline is here just hope I dont have an emergency to happen, I hate going out of town to a hospital when I have one only a few miles away. No MCH is not perfect and I too have complaints but all hospitals has and will always have complaints,
I got bad news for you. This wasn't just a "complaint". The complaint was a woman died after her nurse/doctor didnt pay attention to her chart. Yes, this happens from time to time, but that complaint brought a full audit from Medicare/Medicaid and they found serious problems. In fact if you read the paper, the rep from medicare said that "rarely" do they take the actions they had to with MCH by taking away payments. Im sure they will fix the problems and start receiving payments again but that just means we are barely meeting the minimum requirements. Scraping the bottom of the barrel. That is not the care i want but that is what you get...especially with this new Obamacare.
honestly

Cadiz, KY

#39 Feb 28, 2013
GMan wrote:
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I got bad news for you. This wasn't just a "complaint". The complaint was a woman died after her nurse/doctor didnt pay attention to her chart. Yes, this happens from time to time, but that complaint brought a full audit from Medicare/Medicaid and they found serious problems. In fact if you read the paper, the rep from medicare said that "rarely" do they take the actions they had to with MCH by taking away payments. Im sure they will fix the problems and start receiving payments again but that just means we are barely meeting the minimum requirements. Scraping the bottom of the barrel. That is not the care i want but that is what you get...especially with this new Obamacare.
this may seem like a dumb question but how does a nurse/doctor not paying attention have to do with Obama?
hmmm

Greenville, KY

#40 Feb 28, 2013
GMan wrote:
<quoted text>I got bad news for you. This wasn't just a "complaint". The complaint was a woman died after her nurse/doctor didnt pay attention to her chart. Yes, this happens from time to time, but that complaint brought a full audit from Medicare/Medicaid and they found serious problems. In fact if you read the paper, the rep from medicare said that "rarely" do they take the actions they had to with MCH by taking away payments. Im sure they will fix the problems and start receiving payments again but that just means we are barely meeting the minimum requirements. Scraping the bottom of the barrel. That is not the care i want but that is what you get...especially with this new Obamacare.
What happen to this woman.. Does no one know??

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