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Snowplow

Cadiz, KY

#1 Feb 10, 2014
No school again Tuesday? Back roads still slick, I know but what about snow routes? McLeans in, Hopkins in, Ohio's going. Is their back roads that much better? Grow a set McCarty. This is ridiculous. I guess their playing basketball tonight so I don't see the problem with going back to school myself.
yaknow

Madisonville, KY

#2 Feb 10, 2014
Snowplow wrote:
No school again Tuesday? Back roads still slick, I know but what about snow routes? McLeans in, Hopkins in, Ohio's going. Is their back roads that much better? Grow a set McCarty. This is ridiculous. I guess their playing basketball tonight so I don't see the problem with going back to school myself.
I guess hes kind of between a rock and a hardplace. If he allows school to be in session then you know someone will be gripeing because their babys had to get out in this miserable weather. If they go and then an accident does happen, you know some parents will see dollar signs and try to sue the school, county, or him personally. As for snow routes, some parents could care less if their children even go to school, let alone having to get them to another pick up point and a lot of kids will not walk to them. I understand your frustration tho. A lot has changed since they combined all the schools together.
Randy

Cadiz, KY

#3 Feb 10, 2014
GET OFF OF MY BACK!
Snowplow

Cadiz, KY

#4 Feb 10, 2014
yaknow wrote:
<quoted text>I guess hes kind of between a rock and a hardplace. If he allows school to be in session then you know someone will be gripeing because their babys had to get out in this miserable weather. If they go and then an accident does happen, you know some parents will see dollar signs and try to sue the school, county, or him personally. As for snow routes, some parents could care less if their children even go to school, let alone having to get them to another pick up point and a lot of kids will not walk to them. I understand your frustration tho. A lot has changed since they combined all the schools together.
You can sue for about anything including if a wreck occurs going to or from the ballgame tonight. Kids have been home so long I'd say most parents would make an effort to get them to the pick up point. But I guess he's thinking about poor attendance and the money they will lose. So why are surrounding counties going tomorrow because I don't think their roads are any better than ours?
yaknow

Madisonville, KY

#5 Feb 10, 2014
Snowplow wrote:
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You can sue for about anything including if a wreck occurs going to or from the ballgame tonight. Kids have been home so long I'd say most parents would make an effort to get them to the pick up point. But I guess he's thinking about poor attendance and the money they will lose. So why are surrounding counties going tomorrow because I don't think their roads are any better than ours?
I really dont have an answer for you. Some of the side roads toward bremen and moorman were still yucky early this morning but im sure they are worried about loosing money and low attendance. I think the county roads just get plowed. City salts and plows and state too.

Since: Jun 12

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#6 Feb 10, 2014
Look at it from the Super's POV. What pros are there to having school in session with some roads still slick? I can think of zero. If schools are out what's the worst that can happen, some parents complain? Not like he's gonna lose his job, look at all it took to get that pos Dale Todd out of the position. He and the school board would be in more trouble is school was in session and wrecks occurred.
The cons far out way the pros of having school tomorrow from the Super's POV for all the reasons listed in the above posts.
Ithink

Greenville, KY

#7 Feb 10, 2014
I would not want my kids out on the roads they are still very slick , I am glad school is cancelled. But your always gonna have people who are gonna b**ch about something.
Summer fun

Cadiz, KY

#8 Feb 11, 2014
Ithink wrote:
I would not want my kids out on the roads they are still very slick , I am glad school is cancelled. But your always gonna have people who are gonna b**ch about something.
LOL. I see more kids at Walmart then I would at school. If you think older kids are staying home because it's slick your crazy. If surrounding districts are going its makes no sense to stay home again. Why are we having ballgames if it's too dangerous and kids are out at night at these. Isn't that more dangerous than driving in daylight? McCartys soft and a big wussy and my kids rather go now than July.
Slip slidin away

Cadiz, KY

#9 Feb 11, 2014
Well- wrote:
Look at it from the Super's POV. What pros are there to having school in session with some roads still slick? I can think of zero. If schools are out what's the worst that can happen, some parents complain? Not like he's gonna lose his job, look at all it took to get that pos Dale Todd out of the position. He and the school board would be in more trouble is school was in session and wrecks occurred.
The cons far out way the pros of having school tomorrow from the Super's POV for all the reasons listed in the above posts.
Every district around is in school today. Our roads are worse than theirs? The difference is those districts have a plan in place for such a situation and our board doesn't have a clue so they make the easy choice, no school. So you're saying this guy is afraid he'll lose his job if he screws up? What kind of leader is that, afraid to make a tough decision? Let's cut him some slack over this weather thing. I'd say this is just the beginning of questionable leadership. He want even let teachers work their professional days off so they will be doing that after school is let out this June and some of those people are not happy because they have been out in these conditions all week. I'd say the money has got a lot to do with it but wait till June if you want to see poor attendance for both students and teachers. LOL

Since: Jun 12

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#10 Feb 11, 2014
Slip slidin away wrote:
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Every district around is in school today. Our roads are worse than theirs? The difference is those districts have a plan in place for such a situation and our board doesn't have a clue so they make the easy choice, no school. So you're saying this guy is afraid he'll lose his job if he screws up? What kind of leader is that, afraid to make a tough decision? Let's cut him some slack over this weather thing. I'd say this is just the beginning of questionable leadership. He want even let teachers work their professional days off so they will be doing that after school is let out this June and some of those people are not happy because they have been out in these conditions all week. I'd say the money has got a lot to do with it but wait till June if you want to see poor attendance for both students and teachers. LOL
What do you mean by they have a plan in place? A plan to battle lawsuits?

I never said Randy McCarty is afraid he'll lose his job if he screws up. Did you actually read what I wrote?

Does the district plan allow for the Super or the PDC to grant permission to teachers for PD days to be at a time when school is out for inclement weather or any situation where school would normally be in session but is not?
really

Owensboro, KY

#11 Feb 11, 2014
Snowplow wrote:
No school again Tuesday? Back roads still slick, I know but what about snow routes? McLeans in, Hopkins in, Ohio's going. Is their back roads that much better? Grow a set McCarty. This is ridiculous. I guess their playing basketball tonight so I don't see the problem with going back to school myself.
I think some of the blame has to be placed on the city,county and state road dept.Downtown Central City is a mess.Merchants should be mad about downtown.Parking places along the street are solid ice.They should clean all the streets like they clean Park St.
Slip slidin away

Cadiz, KY

#12 Feb 11, 2014
Well- wrote:
<quoted text>What do you mean by they have a plan in place? A plan to battle lawsuits?

I never said Randy McCarty is afraid he'll lose his job if he screws up. Did you actually read what I wrote?

Does the district plan allow for the Super or the PDC to grant permission to teachers for PD days to be at a time when school is out for inclement weather or any situation where school would normally be in session but is not?
A plan where you have certain bus routes you run when some roads are dangerous and a way to communicate that to the public. Why not have snow routes and drivers call parents about where to have their children for pickup. A plan to get parking lots cleared and sidewalks salted so the school lots are safe. A plan that recommends high school students ride the bus instead of driving to school. A plan that adjust circumstances so we can have school when conditions are not idea. A plan that gives bus driver discretion as to which roads can be traveled. It doesn't take a genius just a little planning.

I would think the superintendent can call teachers in to work. My niece works in Jefferson County and they do it often. Maybe we shouldn't try that either in fear of a lawsuit.

My main point is if everyone around us is in school why are we not and if it's safe enough to have ball practices and ballgames at night then we could go to school with a little better planning and foresight. So I guess it's the money or maybe too much of an effort.

I'm sure road departments mayors and others get sued all the time because people have accidents on slick roads. Maybe if someone slides off the road on Sunday morning they need to sue the church and preacher too. I'm all for safety but also am realistic. If you think it's too slick for school keep your child home. I guess a child being hurt coming to school is more dangerous that a child or player being hurt getting to the gym for a game at night. It's a double standard in my book.
June bug teacher

Cadiz, KY

#13 Feb 11, 2014
No school on Wed. Not going to use spring break as make up so we will be in school until June 6th unless we miss more days. There goes the summer.

I know back roads are slick but we should use snow routes. Every other district in western ky is in school today. I don't understand. Oh yeah and make sure to go to the ballgame tonight at west campus since it seems that the roads are only dangerous during school hours.

We didn't do any make up days before Christmas or use MLK day so now we get to go all summer. Great job board and superintendent. Why can't we go during spring break instead of June?We've been out for like 7 straight days then turnaround and have spring break in a month? Come on guys get it together.
Randy

Greenville, KY

#14 Feb 11, 2014
Most people will be in Florida at spring break, including ME.
Ithink

Greenville, KY

#15 Feb 11, 2014
I think that's a good ideal use spring break instead of summer break
okay

Madisonville, KY

#16 Feb 11, 2014
Hell when i was in school we didnt get out til June 8th because of bad weather. Guess what, it didnt kill anyone. It is what it is.

Since: Jun 12

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#17 Feb 11, 2014
Slip slidin away wrote:
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A plan where you have certain bus routes you run when some roads are dangerous and a way to communicate that to the public. Why not have snow routes and drivers call parents about where to have their children for pickup. A plan to get parking lots cleared and sidewalks salted so the school lots are safe. A plan that recommends high school students ride the bus instead of driving to school. A plan that adjust circumstances so we can have school when conditions are not idea. A plan that gives bus driver discretion as to which roads can be traveled. It doesn't take a genius just a little planning.
I would think the superintendent can call teachers in to work. My niece works in Jefferson County and they do it often. Maybe we shouldn't try that either in fear of a lawsuit.
My main point is if everyone around us is in school why are we not and if it's safe enough to have ball practices and ballgames at night then we could go to school with a little better planning and foresight. So I guess it's the money or maybe too much of an effort.
I'm sure road departments mayors and others get sued all the time because people have accidents on slick roads. Maybe if someone slides off the road on Sunday morning they need to sue the church and preacher too. I'm all for safety but also am realistic. If you think it's too slick for school keep your child home. I guess a child being hurt coming to school is more dangerous that a child or player being hurt getting to the gym for a game at night. It's a double standard in my book.
I agree with all that. I think they should be in school. My point was just seeing it from the super's pov. IMO, it probably is the money.
I doubt it

Chattanooga, TN

#18 Feb 11, 2014
Well- wrote:
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I agree with all that. I think they should be in school. My point was just seeing it from the super's pov. IMO, it probably is the money.
If it was the money, they would have been in school - you think he is getting paid to keep them out?? You people truly are clueless. Everybody is crying about not having school, but let one kid have a wreck on ice going to school, or one bus accident happen and all of you who are crying will be ready to hang someone on the courthouse steps.
okay

Madisonville, KY

#19 Feb 11, 2014
When i went to school a hundred years ago, if school was out due to weather there were no ballgames played either.
Be Real

Cadiz, KY

#20 Feb 11, 2014
Lots of talk about school or no school. Here's my 2 cents worth.
Let's all agree that safety of children and workers should be top priority. But I have questions about this whole situation. Some of my questions come from Mr. McCarty's email that he sends out to the workers. My wife is one of those people.

1. If back roads are too slick for buses then don't send those buses out those roads. If parents can't or won't get their kids to pick up points than fine. Keep them home. Your call as a parent. Someone mentioned snow routes. Use these for this unusual circumstance. Do what's best for the majority and I think the majority of kids can get to school without problems.

2. His email said he was concerned about high school students driving. Ok fine. Request they ride the bus for a few days. Is that too much to ask?

3. If his decision is based on safety than why would he allow ball games at night? Much more dangerous for night driving in these conditions. Parents on Facebook like no school for safety reasons but I guess they forget he's allowing these after school activities.

4. Someone said they could have made up some days in Dec or MLK day. Good question. Why did they not?

5. No makeup during spring break? Why not? I'd say most parents would rather go that week rather than go to the middle of June. This decision, IMO, is because teachers usually go to Florida that week. My wife says spring break is good and it gives teachers a much needed break IF they have been in school the last two months straight. So not going during spring break is for teachers and principals and not what most parents would want for their children. I'd bet the new superintendent has plans that week too.

6. Why are we the only district in west ky that was not in school today or tomorrow? Is back roads in these other counties not as bad as ours? We praise McCarty for being safe so are we saying superintendents in other districts are not being safe? Like an earlier post said, the other counties probably have an emergency plan for this type of situation.

7. His email today said the buses could not travel on 85 roads. Come on!! I live on one of those roads that was on the list and it's in good shape except for one little area. I also drove on three of those other roads listed and believe me they were passable. So 85 is quiet a stretch. But again if their slick, do snow routes. Are these people living on these roads starving? I mean are they snowed in or stranded since last week?

8. Have the school parking lots been cleared? If not why? Walking on slick parking lots or sidewalks is where students and workers might get injured.

9. Mr mcCarraher sent out an email today about banked time which I don't understand and neither does my wife. After calling someone who knew I was told this board reduced the calendar so now they can only bank 1 day and not 3 or 4 like previous years. I'd like to know why? Wish they had 4 days of banked time now. That's 4 days kids would not have to make up.

10. If you have similar concerns I'd recommend you call your board member, ask questions and request they get involved with this situation.

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