Muhlenberg County Schools
okay

Greenville, KY

#94 Apr 22, 2014
Butbuddies wrote:
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Check with churches or the new school in Greenville. The BOE is doing little to help kids unless your from an elite family. New leadership is really weak and doesn't believe poor kids can be successful. Go the private school route is your best option.
While a person can have an income above average yet little education (coal miner's as an example), most well-educated families are not poor. So poverty is often associated with lower education. Lowly educated parents have difficulty providing a proper academic education for children.
The county school system gets funding for every individual child in a classroom. Less kids in school means less funding. The BOE has little incentive to make home schooling or private schooling an easy option.
yep

United States

#96 Apr 22, 2014
Well said. Always been that way always will be.
Marry

United States

#97 Apr 23, 2014
Pennfoster.edu a friend of mine uses it. She's says it good for homeschooling. Cheep and accredited.
Pitiful

United States

#98 Apr 24, 2014
I am having trouble as well... School and the board take nothing serious and very disappointed in them all...
respect

Dunmor, KY

#101 Apr 30, 2014
Doesn't sound like teachers are respected in this county. They are spending a lot of money on things like coaches and football. Not against those things but this board and superintendent won't last long if they continue disrespecting their people. A lot of people are talking and most are not good things being said.
Teacher

Dunmor, KY

#102 Apr 30, 2014
They also cut some teachers pay too. Those who work with kids who need extra help got cut a lot. They cut stipends too is what the Times Argus said. Just certain people who the superintendent wants to run off. I read it at lunch in the library. Cut some teachers. Little raise for others. Cut some stipends so they can do what, hire more people or give more money too football? And paying the basketball coach 230 days? Just doesn't seem quite right. If they were putting money in things that directly help kids then I have no problem with little the small raise. But I don't see this group spending much money to help kids directly.
ExStudent

Hodgenville, KY

#103 Apr 30, 2014
I heard one of the teachers was wearing a thong, then someone said he didn't think it was really a thong 'cause the Times Anguish said they cut her step ends.
Hmm

Greenville, KY

#104 Apr 30, 2014
I hope the person w/ the Marion, KY ISP that keeps posting isn't an English teacher.
Parent Plus

Dunmor, KY

#105 May 1, 2014
Our teachers do deserve more respect. There are good ones and bad ones just like in any profession. I just don't think our system is moving forward like it should. The school leaders don't seem to do much and there is unquestionably too much politics in the system. I wish they would demand more from the kids. The board members seem to be living in the past and satisfied with just being average. They complain about the previous board members who merged the schools and tried to change some things but they don't seem to have any plan or idea to make our schools better maybe this new vocational wing will help but that was done by the past board so I'm still waiting to see what this new group does. I've seen nothing yet and heard nothing but criticism. Let's all be patient and pray they get it together because right now it seems like its in a mess. I don't want to be so critical but being honest from my perspective. My grand children's future is at stake and all of Muhl deserves better.
Johnny

Princeton, KY

#106 May 1, 2014
First, we have the highest paid teachers in the area for rural school. Second, we have some of the nicest facilities in the state.
Third, our children in the MC school district are given more programs and opportunity to succeed than any where else in the state. Maybe its time to stop blaming everyone else for our students success or lack of.. and starting pushing our kids at home. As for teachers, well, what other profession can you only work 8 months of the year and get paid for 12? Retire at 55 and draw 80% of your salary which is about $58,000 a year (and go back and work and make $115 a day)? Not to mention, have medical insurance until you reach medicare. Oh, forgot to mention they get 15 personal days a year on top of all the time off.Which is more paid time off than most ppl that have worked in their profession for 15-20 years. So, tell me again how you are getting mis treated? Here's another kicker for ya, most of the top public schools in the state have teachers that would love to make what teachers in MC make.
amazed

Madisonville, KY

#107 May 1, 2014
Johnny wrote:
First, we have the highest paid teachers in the area for rural school. Second, we have some of the nicest facilities in the state.
Third, our children in the MC school district are given more programs and opportunity to succeed than any where else in the state. Maybe its time to stop blaming everyone else for our students success or lack of.. and starting pushing our kids at home. As for teachers, well, what other profession can you only work 8 months of the year and get paid for 12? Retire at 55 and draw 80% of your salary which is about $58,000 a year (and go back and work and make $115 a day)? Not to mention, have medical insurance until you reach medicare. Oh, forgot to mention they get 15 personal days a year on top of all the time off.Which is more paid time off than most ppl that have worked in their profession for 15-20 years. So, tell me again how you are getting mis treated? Here's another kicker for ya, most of the top public schools in the state have teachers that would love to make what teachers in MC make.
I am not sure where this person gained this information, but as a teacher I can tell you that teachers only get paid for the months they work, this amount is spread over 12 months so to receive a payday each month. I retired myself at age 60 and I draw under $2,000 a month so I would like to know who makes $58,000 per year...or maybe the math is fuzzy? Medical insurance is paid out of a retired person's paycheck, just like a teacher who is working pays. I have never heard of 15 personal days for anyone teaching school...I always got 1. As for working only 8 months? I know of not one teacher who does not have to go to school in the summer months (for MANDATORY education), attend professional development meetings, and plan for the coming school year. This said, I also know no teacher who would choose another profession because teaching school is a calling, not a job.
Retired Teacher

Dunmor, KY

#108 May 1, 2014
Johnny wrote:
First, we have the highest paid teachers in the area for rural school. Second, we have some of the nicest facilities in the state.
Third, our children in the MC school district are given more programs and opportunity to succeed than any where else in the state. Maybe its time to stop blaming everyone else for our students success or lack of.. and starting pushing our kids at home. As for teachers, well, what other profession can you only work 8 months of the year and get paid for 12? Retire at 55 and draw 80% of your salary which is about $58,000 a year (and go back and work and make $115 a day)? Not to mention, have medical insurance until you reach medicare. Oh, forgot to mention they get 15 personal days a year on top of all the time off.Which is more paid time off than most ppl that have worked in their profession for 15-20 years. So, tell me again how you are getting mis treated? Here's another kicker for ya, most of the top public schools in the state have teachers that would love to make what teachers in MC make.
Most of your information is incorrect. I've been retired from teaching a few years and live near Greenville so I know pretty much what's going on. As I read the earlier posts I think you are missing the point Johnny.

I agree with Parent Plus about teachers being disrespected but I think the point people are making is this board and superintendent don't seem to support teachers like in the past. The 1% raise is from state money not local dollars. So the local board is basically giving 0 raise. Mr Todd and previous boards gave raises every year even when the state did not provide the money. In 2008 I believe teachers got like a $3000 raise.

So this board is giving nothing except state money. Last year they cut two days of pay for teachers too. Cut back from 187 to 185 paid days. Cutting school days for kids and teachers is not good. Kids need more school not less. The KTRS contribution has increased dramatically along with health insurance so more is being taken out of their checks. They reduced retired teachers pay for doing interventions with struggling students and cut some stipends at the office. I can't remember when a past board cut pay. They may have had to eliminate jobs or cutbacks but not reduce salaries.

I agree kids in Muhlenberg has lots of opportunities with the Martin Foundation financial support and Iris Givins scholarships. I too agree parents need to be more involved. Our facilities are great but these things are all from the previous board and superintendent. What has this group done? New NM school, new elementary schools at South, Bremen and Greenville. New gyms and libraries at Central City and Longest and a new technology building, auditorium, stadium and park at west campus. All this done the last 15 years or so with past board members and superintendents.

So I can see why so many are saying this board is not for teachers and they got to step up big time to accomplish 10% of what previous boards and superintendents have done.
Johnny

Princeton, KY

#109 May 2, 2014
amazed wrote:
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I am not sure where this person gained this information, but as a teacher I can tell you that teachers only get paid for the months they work, this amount is spread over 12 months so to receive a payday each month. I retired myself at age 60 and I draw under $2,000 a month so I would like to know who makes $58,000 per year...or maybe the math is fuzzy? Medical insurance is paid out of a retired person's paycheck, just like a teacher who is working pays. I have never heard of 15 personal days for anyone teaching school...I always got 1. As for working only 8 months? I know of not one teacher who does not have to go to school in the summer months (for MANDATORY education), attend professional development meetings, and plan for the coming school year. This said, I also know no teacher who would choose another profession because teaching school is a calling, not a job.
I said they make 58,000 with Masters and 20 years of service. They will then make 80% of that during their retirement years. Correct? However, you can retire at 55 if you have enough time in and keep your medical benefits until medicare kicks in. Pretty sweet deal compared to most.
I agree you only get 1 personal day a year, but you also get 14 sick days that can be rolled over from year to year. Right? I'm just saying teachers have pretty sweet deal for doing what they love, but they won't get rich doing it. I hate when parents bash teachers and I hate when teachers think they have it so rough because most couldn't make it in another job.
Johnny

Princeton, KY

#110 May 2, 2014
Retired Teacher wrote:
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Most of your information is incorrect. I've been retired from teaching a few years and live near Greenville so I know pretty much what's going on. As I read the earlier posts I think you are missing the point Johnny.
I agree with Parent Plus about teachers being disrespected but I think the point people are making is this board and superintendent don't seem to support teachers like in the past. The 1% raise is from state money not local dollars. So the local board is basically giving 0 raise. Mr Todd and previous boards gave raises every year even when the state did not provide the money. In 2008 I believe teachers got like a $3000 raise.
So this board is giving nothing except state money. Last year they cut two days of pay for teachers too. Cut back from 187 to 185 paid days. Cutting school days for kids and teachers is not good. Kids need more school not less. The KTRS contribution has increased dramatically along with health insurance so more is being taken out of their checks. They reduced retired teachers pay for doing interventions with struggling students and cut some stipends at the office. I can't remember when a past board cut pay. They may have had to eliminate jobs or cutbacks but not reduce salaries.
I agree kids in Muhlenberg has lots of opportunities with the Martin Foundation financial support and Iris Givins scholarships. I too agree parents need to be more involved. Our facilities are great but these things are all from the previous board and superintendent. What has this group done? New NM school, new elementary schools at South, Bremen and Greenville. New gyms and libraries at Central City and Longest and a new technology building, auditorium, stadium and park at west campus. All this done the last 15 years or so with past board members and superintendents.
So I can see why so many are saying this board is not for teachers and they got to step up big time to accomplish 10% of what previous boards and superintendents have done.
I don't think the last group did a bad job. However, it's hard to jude what the new board and Super. will do. Heck, Mr McCarty has only been on the job 6 Months. Every industry is having cut backs. With the state giving the 1% raise it equals what Mr Todd and the previous board were giving, so it's a wash. Also, thats 1% the board can now save for this yr. I'm not trying to argue logistics, I just wish the whole county would support the current board and Admin. We must learn to support our own because I can assure you no one else is .
Retired Teacher

Dunmor, KY

#111 May 2, 2014
Johnny wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think the last group did a bad job. However, it's hard to jude what the new board and Super. will do. Heck, Mr McCarty has only been on the job 6 Months. Every industry is having cut backs. With the state giving the 1% raise it equals what Mr Todd and the previous board were giving, so it's a wash. Also, thats 1% the board can now save for this yr. I'm not trying to argue logistics, I just wish the whole county would support the current board and Admin. We must learn to support our own because I can assure you no one else is .
I agree with much of what you said. I'm sure teachers think they should get at least two percent since the one present is state money and required by law. The previous raises came from local money. I think they are really disrespecting retired teachers who come back to help the system. Especially cutting the interventionist and cutting selective central office people but not all.

They said there are budget issues and that's the reason but they turn around and post 10 or 12 new jobs including a $100,000 asst supt job. Plus giving football an additional $15,000, extra coaches, new uniforms and providing bus transportation home after football practices. Hays Browning is the new football coach and it just so happens he's really good friends with Mr McCarty so most see why that's being done. Plus a teacher from Longest told me a new storage building is being built at Longest so Mrs. McCarty can store her music equipment in.

I agree we need to support the board and superintendent but I'm sure it's hard to respect and trust them when they do things I've mentioned above. And that is just what I've heard about. I'm sure there are other questionable spending sprees as well.
Knew It

Princeton, KY

#112 May 3, 2014
About time people see what's really happening. This board, from the start, has not been about helping teachers or students. It's been about getting McCarty in as the Supt and Todd out. We have no money but they paid Todd $$$ to resign. Great job. Look at what's being done with the football coach. Who is he friends with?

The Supt is weak. The board president is weak. This board has done nothing to make improvements and they won't. They accomplished their task at the expense of the students and staff.

Another Muhlenberg County job well done.
Leslie

Dunmor, KY

#113 May 4, 2014
Knew It wrote:
About time people see what's really happening. This board, from the start, has not been about helping teachers or students. It's been about getting McCarty in as the Supt and Todd out. We have no money but they paid Todd $$$ to resign. Great job. Look at what's being done with the football coach. Who is he friends with?

The Supt is weak. The board president is weak. This board has done nothing to make improvements and they won't. They accomplished their task at the expense of the students and staff.

Another Muhlenberg County job well done.
AMEN
People are wising up alright. Lots of talk around the county. No board member is talked about in any positive way unless it's one of the click trying to justify their stupidity.
Jr Man

United States

#114 May 6, 2014
Retired Teacher wrote:
<quoted text>Most of your information is incorrect. I've been retired from teaching a few years and live near Greenville so I know pretty much what's going on. As I read the earlier posts I think you are missing the point Johnny.

I agree with Parent Plus about teachers being disrespected but I think the point people are making is this board and superintendent don't seem to support teachers like in the past. The 1% raise is from state money not local dollars. So the local board is basically giving 0 raise. Mr Todd and previous boards gave raises every year even when the state did not provide the money. In 2008 I believe teachers got like a $3000 raise.

So this board is giving nothing except state money. Last year they cut two days of pay for teachers too. Cut back from 187 to 185 paid days. Cutting school days for kids and teachers is not good. Kids need more school not less. The KTRS contribution has increased dramatically along with health insurance so more is being taken out of their checks. They reduced retired teachers pay for doing interventions with struggling students and cut some stipends at the office. I can't remember when a past board cut pay. They may have had to eliminate jobs or cutbacks but not reduce salaries.

I agree kids in Muhlenberg has lots of opportunities with the Martin Foundation financial support and Iris Givins scholarships. I too agree parents need to be more involved. Our facilities are great but these things are all from the previous board and superintendent. What has this group done? New NM school, new elementary schools at South, Bremen and Greenville. New gyms and libraries at Central City and Longest and a new technology building, auditorium, stadium and park at west campus. All this done the last 15 years or so with past board members and superintendents.

So I can see why so many are saying this board is not for teachers and they got to step up big time to accomplish 10% of what previous boards and superintendents have done.
I hated the merger back 5 years ago. I went to the meeting but didn't speak. However looking at what is available to my children today, so many opportunities and great facilities and resources it was the best thing that has happened in education in Muhlenberg for years. I was against that board and Mr Todd during the next election. I say now that was a mistake. To see how the current board is doing I can now see how courageous and intelligent the previous board was as well as Me Todd. My kids are thriving at the high school and I'm so thankful. Cudos to the past board and Mr Todd for seeing what was best for our county when so many parents could not. For the current board, get off your high horse and start doing things for kids. Build upon what others started and stop trying to get back at others or use your power to build your ego and deliver vengeance to those who supported the merger and previous board. There is no room for your actions in public education. Grow up and move on.
amazed

Madisonville, KY

#115 May 6, 2014
Jr Man wrote:
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I hated the merger back 5 years ago. I went to the meeting but didn't speak. However looking at what is available to my children today, so many opportunities and great facilities and resources it was the best thing that has happened in education in Muhlenberg for years. I was against that board and Mr Todd during the next election. I say now that was a mistake. To see how the current board is doing I can now see how courageous and intelligent the previous board was as well as Me Todd. My kids are thriving at the high school and I'm so thankful. Cudos to the past board and Mr Todd for seeing what was best for our county when so many parents could not. For the current board, get off your high horse and start doing things for kids. Build upon what others started and stop trying to get back at others or use your power to build your ego and deliver vengeance to those who supported the merger and previous board. There is no room for your actions in public education. Grow up and move on.
The current board is simply about personal agendas. When a board cuts or ignores the pay of the people who are directly interacting with the students, it is a sign of greedy and power-hungry individuals. Your statements about initially not liking the previous board's decisions then seeing they were doing what was best for the students is a courageous stand, and I am sure there are others right there with you. I only hope that this board doesn't do too much damage before the next election rolls around.
lynn

United States

#116 May 6, 2014
You know the old saying " you better watch what you ask for, you might just get it " :/

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