Greenup Going Wet?
WHY

Mooresville, NC

#161 Oct 14, 2012
Truth wrote:
Who really wants anything to do with what Bobby Carpenter / Jermy Bates / Corky Salyer in involved in Crooks Please wake-up people
Why would the Greenup County Judge Executive be in favor of alcohol sales in our county? I wonder if it has anything to do with the proposed casino our Governor wanted to build in our area? We haven't heard that mentioned in a while.
Wikipedia mentions it here: On February 15, 2008, Beshear unveiled his promised legislation that would allow casino gambling in Kentucky.[63] Beshear's plan included a constitutional amendment allowing 12 casinos to be licensed in the state – seven at each of the state's horse racetracks and five additional free-standing casinos
If Judge Carpenter is really supporting alcohol sales in Greenup County why doesn't he own up to it?

Since: Oct 09

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#162 Oct 15, 2012
WHY wrote:
<quoted text>Why would the Greenup County Judge Executive be in favor of alcohol sales in our county? I wonder if it has anything to do with the proposed casino our Governor wanted to build in our area? We haven't heard that mentioned in a while.
Wikipedia mentions it here: On February 15, 2008, Beshear unveiled his promised legislation that would allow casino gambling in Kentucky.[63] Beshear's plan included a constitutional amendment allowing 12 casinos to be licensed in the state – seven at each of the state's horse racetracks and five additional free-standing casinos
If Judge Carpenter is really supporting alcohol sales in Greenup County why doesn't he own up to it?
Why would a casino be a bad thing?
vote no

Ashland, KY

#163 Oct 15, 2012
WHY wrote:
<quoted text>Why would the Greenup County Judge Executive be in favor of alcohol sales in our county? I wonder if it has anything to do with the proposed casino our Governor wanted to build in our area? We haven't heard that mentioned in a while.
Wikipedia mentions it here: On February 15, 2008, Beshear unveiled his promised legislation that would allow casino gambling in Kentucky.[63] Beshear's plan included a constitutional amendment allowing 12 casinos to be licensed in the state – seven at each of the state's horse racetracks and five additional free-standing casinos
If Judge Carpenter is really supporting alcohol sales in Greenup County why doesn't he own up to it?
Because he is a politician! The have to ride the fence!!!
the beast master

Greenup, KY

#164 Oct 19, 2012
I think Jeremy Bates wants this , I seen his old car a few weeks ago when he traded it in , looks like he would need a bar closer to home to save his car from every corner banged up and dents all over , looked like a try to keep it on the road kinda car cause i am drunk , yes it would be better for his car to a have a close to home bar , or maybe he could walk
totall

Broken Arrow, OK

#165 Oct 19, 2012
I think some people need to wake up and realize this is the 21st century
Old Republican

Evansville, IN

#166 Oct 19, 2012
Misinformed you are.
Voice of Reason

Ashland, KY

#167 Oct 23, 2012
big h wrote:
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Why would a casino be a bad thing?
A lot of folks believe that casinos and alcohol sales take more than they give. Any gain is outweighed by the expense and drain on resources elsewhere.
The Kentucky lottery was sold on society as a method to pay for schools. In reality, the lottery barely pays the salaries of it's own employees.

Since: Oct 09

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#168 Oct 24, 2012
Voice of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>A lot of folks believe that casinos and alcohol sales take more than they give. Any gain is outweighed by the expense and drain on resources elsewhere.
The Kentucky lottery was sold on society as a method to pay for schools. In reality, the lottery barely pays the salaries of it's own employees.
It would create jobs.
fatmer ted

Evansville, IN

#169 Oct 24, 2012
Voice of Reason wrote:
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A lot of folks believe that casinos and alcohol sales take more than they give. Any gain is outweighed by the expense and drain on resources elsewhere.
The Kentucky lottery was sold on society as a method to pay for schools. In reality, the lottery barely pays the salaries of it's own employees.
A lot of folks don't think that, just a few.
Red Solo Cup

Greenup, KY

#170 Oct 24, 2012
WHY wrote:
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Why would the Greenup County Judge Executive be in favor of alcohol sales in our county? I wonder if it has anything to do with the proposed casino our Governor wanted to build in our area? We haven't heard that mentioned in a while.
Wikipedia mentions it here: On February 15, 2008, Beshear unveiled his promised legislation that would allow casino gambling in Kentucky.[63] Beshear's plan included a constitutional amendment allowing 12 casinos to be licensed in the state – seven at each of the state's horse racetracks and five additional free-standing casinos
If Judge Carpenter is really supporting alcohol sales in Greenup County why doesn't he own up to it?
Because he is two faced. Why should he when his family is doing it for him.
Parent

Catlettsburg, KY

#171 Oct 24, 2012
fatmer ted wrote:
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A lot of folks don't think that, just a few.
Well, Im not sure about percentages of folks thinking what, but it is definitely a trade off. Almost everything is.

Casinos, gambling, prostitution, legalized drugs. Could bring more jobs, but would definitely bring other side effects with them.

That is why they are not on every corner.
Bill

New York, NY

#172 Oct 24, 2012
Parent wrote:
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Well, Im not sure about percentages of folks thinking what, but it is definitely a trade off. Almost everything is.
Casinos, gambling, prostitution, legalized drugs. Could bring more jobs, but would definitely bring other side effects with them.
That is why they are not on every corner.
Nobody's talkin about prostitution or casinos idiot!!!
Who Really Knows

Catlettsburg, KY

#173 Oct 25, 2012
Bill wrote:
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Nobody's talkin about prostitution or casinos idiot!!!
According to Wikipedia you're only half right.
They make reference to it on their site:

On February 15, 2008, Beshear unveiled his promised legislation that would allow casino gambling in Kentucky.[63] Beshear's plan included a constitutional amendment allowing 12 casinos to be licensed in the state – seven at each of the state's horse racetracks and five additional free-standing casinos

You can be certain a casino won't be built in a dry county. Casino's give players free alcoholic drinks because it clouds their judgement.
Bill

New York, NY

#174 Oct 25, 2012
Who Really Knows wrote:
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According to Wikipedia you're only half right.
They make reference to it on their site:
On February 15, 2008, Beshear unveiled his promised legislation that would allow casino gambling in Kentucky.[63] Beshear's plan included a constitutional amendment allowing 12 casinos to be licensed in the state – seven at each of the state's horse racetracks and five additional free-standing casinos
You can be certain a casino won't be built in a dry county. Casino's give players free alcoholic drinks because it clouds their judgement.
U can be certain industry won't be built in a dry county either!!!! Toyota went to Georgetown 10 days after their wet vote passed!!!
Parent

Catlettsburg, KY

#175 Oct 26, 2012
Bill wrote:
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Nobody's talkin about prostitution or casinos idiot!!!
Well Bill, glad I don't have to deal with you everyday with your ever so nice way of talking to others. But actually I was just responding to an earlier post that did include casinos.

My point wasnt that anyone was wanting to legalize prostitution. It was simply that doing things like that, or bringing in casinos, or making areas wet will have trade offs. If you don't believe that, then there is no reason talking to someone who doesnt know how to reason.

And just on a side note: I never said I was against any of those things. Just think people need to realize that if they were all good and no bad then they would be on every corner.
Current Economy

Catlettsburg, KY

#176 Oct 26, 2012
Bill wrote:
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U can be certain industry won't be built in a dry county either!!!! Toyota went to Georgetown 10 days after their wet vote passed!!!
I don't think Toyota is looking for another plant site in Kentucky since they had to lay off workers in Georgetown. In Greenup County, the City of Russell has been wet for a couple of years now. It's brought zero new industry there. As a matter of fact it hasn't even brought in a single restaurant that serves alcohol. The current economic conditions are just not conducive to new business and industry right now.
What A Joke

Catlettsburg, KY

#177 Oct 26, 2012
People need to stop dreaming about going wet,it'll never happen ....Yell,why not in Russell,guess it wasn't worth it hmmmm ...
alcohol considerations

Catlettsburg, KY

#178 Oct 26, 2012
Parent wrote:
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Well, Im not sure about percentages of folks thinking what, but it is definitely a trade off. Almost everything is.
Casinos, gambling, prostitution, legalized drugs. Could bring more jobs, but would definitely bring other side effects with them.
That is why they are not on every corner.
According to the American Medical Association, alcohol IS a drug. They define alcohol as a depressant.
In the United States half of all fatality vehicle accidents are alcohol related, so that's one of the "trade offs" you mentioned. That might not matter to everyone now...but it might someday when they have children or grandchildren out on the roadways. These are facts to be considered in an alcohol sales vote.
Greenup County doesn't have a prostitution problem. I can remember Ironton having streetwalkers when I was young, don't know about now. Ashland currently has a huge prostitution problem, right down to the common streetwalkers on Winchester Avenue. Ironton and Ashland are both wet. Is alcohol a factor? You decide.
I suggest that people do their own research to make an informed decision before voting yes or no on alcohol sales.
TRADE OFF INFO

Catlettsburg, KY

#179 Oct 26, 2012
Posted below are excerpts from the latest NHTSA report. Again, these are just excerpts, not the complete report. It may or may not help with this current alcohol discussion.

Using data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on fatalities in 14 states, researchers found that men and people driving at night were the most likely to have alcohol, marijuana or other illicit or prescription drugs show up on a toxicology screen after the accident.

Out of 20,150 fatally injured drivers in 2005 to 2009, 57 percent tested positive for at least one drug - including one in five who had multiple drugs in their system when the accident occurred. Alcohol was the most common drug to show up on tox screens, followed by marijuana and stimulants, which include Adderall and amphetamines.

Sixty percent of men killed while driving had drugs or alcohol in their system, compared to less than half of women. People who had an accident at night or on the weekend were also more likely to test positive than those driving on a weekday.

Blacks and whites were equally likely to test positive on a tox screen after a fatal accident - but Asians were much less likely to have drugs or alcohol in their system, and Native Americans much more likely, according to findings published in the journal Addiction.

The researchers didn't have data on the amount of the drug present in blood or urine samples, and cut-offs for levels that reflect impairment at the time of an accident aren't always clear, they added.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/09/06/alco...
Seriously

Morehead, KY

#180 Oct 26, 2012
alcohol considerations wrote:
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Greenup County doesn't have a prostitution problem. I can remember Ironton having streetwalkers when I was young, don't know about now. Ashland currently has a huge prostitution problem, right down to the common streetwalkers on Winchester Avenue. Ironton and Ashland are both wet. Is alcohol a factor? You decide.
I suggest that people do their own research to make an informed decision before voting yes or no on alcohol sales.
Haha, I can't believe you! Greenup County doesn't have a prostitution promlem? Do you live in a freakin bubble? There are pill 'hores everywhere in this county. The only difference is they trade it for pills instead of cash. And alcohol didn't bring prostitution to Ashland, drugs did.

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