do gays goto heaven?

“"*" Always Thinking "*"”

Since: Nov 12

Greensburg, IN

#21 Jan 12, 2013
Laws to live by, you know that.
How come I'm the only registered Topix person on this forum, I may just shut it down.(..?..)

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M Jean Johannigman

Greensburg, IN

#23 Jan 12, 2013
Hoosier Hillbilly wrote:
Laws to live by, you know that.
How come I'm the only registered Topix person on this forum, I may just shut it down.(..?..)
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yes , they are laws to live by...for all of us.

and as I indicated (in previous biblical quotes) we are our brothers keepers. in knowing those laws do you think we are to give our approval if someone we know is sinning in this manner?....or are we to love the sinner and hate the sin?

you do realize that we can be inclusive in this sin, or any sin,if we allow them to believe in any way that we support them in their sin? that would include dismissing any responsibility that we have in being our brothers keeper.

If you truly love someone as God does you support them in their actions according to the 10 commandments, but you do not support them in their sin against those 10 commandments. that is the most loving action you can take for another.

many believe that you support someone, irregardless,(pardon the pun) come hell or highwater. that is doing a great injustice to someone you care about and proclaim to love and also makes you complicit in their sin.

“"*" Always Thinking "*"”

Since: Nov 12

Greensburg, IN

#24 Jan 12, 2013
)%)%)&*) DON'T PANIC people, he's practicing for tomorrow:
Outline of sermon:
I Sinners go to hell
...A - we are saved by the grace of God
...B - we must confess that Jesus is the son of God
..........and that He died for our sins that "WE"
..........might be saved!
II God is love and "he'll" (((throw ))).......in the 10Commandments for ..Jeans' sake.
III Active homosexuals go to hell!
IV if the Holy Spirit is not in you-you are going...... to hell also
V Close sermon with invitation.

PS: and if you don't know what that is your bound for hell!
Thetruthshallset youfree

United States

#25 Jan 12, 2013
oh yes wrote:
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Both must remain celibate (abstain from sin) until marriage between one man and one woman. That's what the bible says, I'm just the messanger.
You sound like a sheep. The bible isn't based on facts, its a bunch of lies to try and control people. How old were you when you found out santa doesn't exist. Live your life how you want not how a bunch of men years ago thought you should. Baa baa
M Jean Johannigman

Greensburg, IN

#26 Jan 12, 2013
Thetruthshallsetyoufree wrote:
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You sound like a sheep. The bible isn't based on facts, its a bunch of lies to try and control people. How old were you when you found out santa doesn't exist. Live your life how you want not how a bunch of men years ago thought you should. Baa baa
wow! are you going to be surprised one day.
What Now

Bryan, OH

#27 Jan 12, 2013
Oh Jean, I wish you could get a lick of my ass and taste something real for a change! Why don't you crawl back in your bottle and get off here?
Nopo

Greenwood, IN

#28 Jan 12, 2013
M Jean Johannigman wrote:
Wow! Are you going to be surprised one day.
Isaiah 45:22-25 ...

(22) Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.(23) By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.(24) They will say of me,'In the Lord alone are deliverance and strength.' All who have raged against him will come to him and be put to shame.(25) But all the descendants of Israel will find deliverance in the Lord and will make their boast in him.

Romans 14:11-12 ...

(11) It is written: "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.'" (12) So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.

Philippians 2:5-11 ...

(5) In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:(6) Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; (7) rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.(8) And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death ó even death on a cross!

(9) Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,(10) that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,(11) and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
What Now

Bryan, OH

#29 Jan 12, 2013
Did any of you ever think that companies or people that are considering locating to Greensburg may scout this site to get an idea of the place? And this is the shit that they find! What do you think they would say after seeing such a thread (especially after Jeff Sangl and the Apostolic Church proclaimed that no Greensburg Homos would make it to heaven AND the Billy Lucas suicide!)? You people complain of no shopping, nothing to do, yet it will be your small-mindedness that insures there will never be anything here! Idiots! Morons of the lowest order! Inbred families with nothing but perversion running through them! Enjoy! The money in this country is gay and atheist, and if you don't like it, dry up!
What Now

Bryan, OH

#30 Jan 12, 2013
Sorry, but I do like the Catholic guys with women that won't give them head after they're married, so they get it from me. Glad to be of mutual assistance. One good thing about the community. Think about that at mass.
M Jean Johannigman

Greensburg, IN

#31 Jan 12, 2013
What Now wrote:
" As if this forum wasn't bad enough --It seems as if we have picked up an anti-gay, anti-women's rights, homo-hating, bible thumper."

misinterpreting again. I know many gays that I consider my friends.
i have employed gays. all people are our brothers and sisters and as I explained above we are to do our best to lead by example in trying to get our brothers and sisters to Heaven.

as for myself and womens rights.... i am not a "libber". I do not think the world revolves around "women". egual pay for equal work done is different than actually being equal. i like being different from men as God intended.

If you want to call me a "bible thumper", I want to thank you and will embrace that fully...only in the knowledge that I know I am a sinner as well and doing my best to do better.
Nopo

Greenwood, IN

#32 Jan 12, 2013
Don't argue at Jean. She doesn't mediate your destiny. Argue with this....
Nopo wrote:
Isaiah 45:22-25 ...

(22) Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.(23) By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.(24) They will say of me,'In the Lord alone are deliverance and strength.' All who have raged against him will come to him and be put to shame.(25) But all the descendants of Israel will find deliverance in the Lord and will make their boast in him.

Romans 14:11-12 ...

(11) It is written: "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.'" (12) So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.

Philippians 2:5-11 ...

(5) In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:(6) Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; (7) rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.(8) And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death ó even death on a cross!

(9) Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,(10) that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,(11) and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
If you can't see it, then I'll pull the passages out for you....

- By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear. They will say of me,'In the Lord alone are deliverance and strength.'

- "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.'"

- At the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Deny it until the cows come home. Live the lifestyle of your choosing. But in the end, the above is what you'll do and it'll be without a choice. Live it right, NOW. Or live it right, LATER. All I can say is that if you pursue the latter option, then enjoy it while you can. THIS is your heaven on Earth!
wow

United States

#33 Jan 12, 2013
in reguards to do gays go to heaven? Romans 1-27
Nopo

Greenwood, IN

#34 Jan 13, 2013
Romans 1:18-32

Godís Wrath Against Sinful Humanity

(18) The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness,(19) since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.(20) For since the creation of the world Godís invisible qualities ó his eternal power and divine nature ó have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

(21) For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.(22) Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools (23) and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

(24) Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.(25) They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator ó who is forever praised. Amen.

(26) Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.(27) In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

(28) Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.(29) They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,(30) slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; (31) they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.(32) Although they know Godís righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
harley

Fort Wayne, IN

#35 Jan 13, 2013
First of all, most of the anti-gay Bible verses are in the Old Testament, which Christ overthrew when he overthrew the old laws (which is why Christians can eat pork, while Jews cannot).

Second, the Bible says nothing about Lesbians. It only condemns male-male homosexuality.

Third, 2 Samuel 1:26 even says outright that King David preferred male love over female love - and Christ is descended from David.

Fourth, the Bible says having sex while a woman is having her period is ALSO an abomination, so if you think that is forgivable, then so is homosexuality, since it is described in the same terms.

Fifth, although Paul excplicitly condemns homosexuality in the New Testament, he also condemns female spirituality and female leadership. He was very anti-female and anti-gay. Churches tend to ignore most of his anti-women rants, so why not ignore his anti-gay rants? According to Paul, a woman who doesn't keep her hair under cover is committing a horrid, horrid sin. Most churches ignore that.

"For God so loved the World that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life"

It does not say "that whoever believes in him AND is not gay should have eterinal lfie..." Just, whoever. Regardless of gender or sexual orientation.
M Jean Johannigman

Greensburg, IN

#36 Jan 13, 2013
Everyone, including homosexuals, have to overcome lust. No one gets a pass on this task. Lust is sinful, whether it is homosexual lust or heterosexual lust. And everyone is called to celibacy that is not married to a person of the opposite sex.

Homosexuals are not to be hated or impugned; they are to be loved and prayed for. A great strategy is that we do all of the praying, and we leave all of the judging to God. And when they insult us and maybe even spit on us, we are to do just like Jesus did during the Passion Ė Turn the other cheek and ask God to forgive them. Why? Because no servant is greater than his Master (John 13:16).

Jesus said that they hated Him, and they will hate us too if we follow Him (John 15:18). That prophecy of Jesus is certainly being fulfilled today in this battle for the hearts and minds of the world concerning homosexuality and the homosexual agenda.

http://www.catholicbible101.com/homosexuality...
Nopo

Greenwood, IN

#37 Jan 13, 2013
Its there for the guy to read, Jean.

Harley has been provided with an Old Testament and three New Testament sources. Lesbianism is addressed, and lust is mentioned in the passage.
Nopo

Greenwood, IN

#38 Jan 13, 2013
Here is the link to 2 Samuel 1....

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

David sings a song of grief, using his bow, and he speaks of the depth of his love for Jonathan. He isn't singing it in the physical sense that is often associated with today's rock music.

You are trying to say that what David sang is his day is the equivalent of what Foghat sang in the 1970s with "I Just Want to Make Love to You."

Here's the sound track if you aren't familiar with it....

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#39 Jan 14, 2013
M jean I haves lust for you.
What Now

Bryan, OH

#40 Jan 14, 2013
Turd, do you like more cushion for the pushin'?
Jake

United States

#41 Jan 16, 2013
they do not go to heaven! because god created us to make babys with men and woman. it's against his rules and he won't accept it! if you apoligize an never have a sexual intercourse with a guy ever again than yes

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