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chestnuts

Rushville, IN

#1 Feb 11, 2013
Yes the pope is resigning.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2 Feb 11, 2013
M Jean Johannigman

Batesville, IN

#3 Feb 11, 2013
All Catholics please pray for the process of selecting a new Pope that God's will be done.
gobble

Lake Geneva, WI

#4 Feb 11, 2013
Especially one does not ignore child molesting.
Connie

Chicago, IL

#5 Feb 11, 2013
There you go Jean....guess you will be running for the Popes position , since you think you know it all and know the bible better than anyone! Well so you think !
MARK

Chicago, IL

#6 Feb 11, 2013
OH NO LOOK OUT CARDINAL PETER ,KNOW IT ALL PRIEST JEAN WILL BE TAKING YOUR SPOT IN LINE!
M Jean Johannigman

Batesville, IN

#7 Feb 11, 2013
gobble wrote:
Especially one does not ignore child molesting.
Gobble.... watch this edition of the vortex on this link.

http://www.churchmilitant.tv/daily/...

Remember this quote by Archbishop Sheen:

"There are not more than 100 people in the world who truly hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they perceive to be the Catholic Church.....As a matter of fact, if we Catholics believed all of the untruths and lies which were said against the Church, we probably would hate the Church a thousand times more than they do."

http://www.catholicbible101.com/archbishopshe...
gobble

Posen, IL

#8 Feb 11, 2013
M Jean Johannigman wrote:
<quoted text>Gobble.... watch this edition of the vortex on this link.

http://www.churchmilitant.tv/daily/...

Remember this quote by Archbishop Sheen:

"There are not more than 100 people in the world who truly hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they perceive to be the Catholic Church.....As a matter of fact, if we Catholics believed all of the untruths and lies which were said against the Church, we probably would hate the Church a thousand times more than they do."

http://www.catholicbible101.com/archbishopshe...
There bunch of molestors
rider

Gwinn, MI

#9 Feb 11, 2013
The first academic examination of Gladio was published in 2005 by Swiss historian Daniele Ganser. Mr. Ganser is currently a Senior Researcher at the Center for Security Studies at the Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, Switzerland. His book, NATO's Secret Armies: Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe, Gladio has been accused of trying to influence policies through the means of "false flag" operations: a 2000 Italian Parliamentary Commission report from the Olive Tree left-wing coalition concluded that the strategy of tension used by Gladio had been supported by the United States to "stop the PCI (Italian Communist Party), and to a certain degree also the PSI (Italian Socialist Party), from reaching executive power in the country".[10][11][12]

Propaganda Due (also known as P2), a quasi-freemasonic organization, whose existence was discovered in 1981, was said closely linked to Gladio[citation needed].

P2 was outlawed and disbanded in 1981, in the wake of the Banco Ambrosiano scandal, which was linked to the Mafia and to the Vatican Bank. Its Grand Master, Licio Gelli, was involved in most of Italy’s scandals in the last three decades of the 20th century: Banco Ambrosiano’s crash; Tangentopoli, which gave rise to the Mani pulite ("Clean hands") anticorruption operation in the 1990s; the kidnapping and the murder of Aldo Moro in 1978 – the head of the secret services at the time, accused of negligence, was a piduista (P2 member). Licio Gelli has often said he was a friend of Argentine President Juan Perón. In any case, some important figures of his circle were discovered to be piduista, such as José López Rega, founder of the infamous anticommunist organization Triple A and provisional president Raúl Alberto Lastiri. Some members of later Jorge Videla’s dictatorship were part of the P2 as well, such as Admiral Emilio Massera and General Guillermo Suárez Mason. The Vatican Bank was also accused of funneling covert US funds for the Solidarnosc trade union movement in Poland and the Contras in Nicaragua.[13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
M Jean Johannigman

Batesville, IN

#10 Feb 11, 2013
If you listen to the Vortex video I posted above , to the end, there is no doubt infiltration within the Catholic Church to try and bring her down.

This is from the prophecy of Fatima: I would suggest clicking on the link and reading it all.

"The third part of the secret is a symbolic revelation, referring to this part of the Message, conditioned by whether we accept or not what the Message itself asks of us:‘If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, etc.'.

Since we did not heed this appeal of the Message, we see that it has been fulfilled, Russia has invaded the world with her errors. And if we have not yet seen the complete fulfilment of the final part of this prophecy, we are going towards it little by little with great strides. If we do not reject the path of sin, hatred, revenge, injustice, violations of the rights of the human person, immorality and violence, etc.

And let us not say that it is God who is punishing us in this way; on the contrary it is people themselves who are preparing their own punishment. In his kindness God warns us and calls us to the right path, while respecting the freedom he has given us; hence people are responsible”.(5) "

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregatio...
Nobody Important

Greenwood, IN

#11 Feb 11, 2013
I'm not going to get into the above debate but I will say as a non-Catholic, that I have respect for the Pope's resignation. He understands that age is catching up with him and his effectiveness in performance is diminishing.

Nobody steps out of line when they are first. His act, based on his reason, takes a lot of self-control.
gobble

Kenosha, WI

#12 Feb 11, 2013
There is no use for a pope. People that believe in all these superstitions are nuts. He's covered up so many priest that molested children that he deserves hell if there was such a place.
M Jean Johannigman

Batesville, IN

#13 Feb 11, 2013
gobble wrote:
There is no use for a pope. People that believe in all these superstitions are nuts. He's covered up so many priest that molested children that he deserves hell if there was such a place.
gobble,
that is judging. God will do that. we are to make "judgements"
but are you saying you know what is in this Pope's heart and shared between him and Jesus?

http://www.catholicbible101.com/judgenot.htm
gobble

Kenosha, WI

#14 Feb 11, 2013
M Jean Johannigman wrote:
<quoted text>gobble,
that is judging. God will do that. we are to make "judgements"
but are you saying you know what is in this Pope's heart and shared between him and Jesus?

http://www.catholicbible101.com/judgenot.htm
Who cares
Nobody Important

Greenwood, IN

#15 Feb 11, 2013
What do YOU believe in, Gobble?
gobble

Kenosha, WI

#16 Feb 11, 2013
I'm atheist ive done my research. I'm not like most that get there's passed down from family. Whatever yours is I'm sure you haven't researched anything but your own religion.
Nobody Important

Greenwood, IN

#17 Feb 11, 2013
gobble wrote:
I'm atheist.
Just so there's no discrepancy of meaning ... "Atheism"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

[An excerpt]

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.
gobble wrote:
I'm atheist. I've done my research.
Your research would have uncovered that some atheists have doubted the very need for the term "atheism," wouldn't it? Then you're aware that in his book, "Letter to a Christian Nation," Sam Harris wrote:

[Quote] In fact, "atheism" is a term that should not even exist. No one ever needs to identify himself as a "non-astrologer" or a "non-alchemist." We do not have words for people who doubt that Elvis is still alive or that aliens have traversed the galaxy only to molest ranchers and their cattle. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.[End of quote]

You're a reasonable person, Gobble. Please do two things for us.

First, provide an argument that presents reasonable proof that God doesn't exist.

Secondly, explain to us why you've had to do research. I ask because if, as atheists think, the non-belief of God is man's natural position, why people as you even have to convince yourselves of it? You'll have to overcome the concept of "theistic innatism" which holds that all people believe in God from birth and within that view, lies the connotation that atheists are simply in denial.

In short, Gobble, I want to know when an atheist's rejection of belief becomes the convincing fact of God's non-existence. What with you being a researched scholar on the matter, and all, this ought to be a relatively easy undertaking.
M Jean Johannigman

Batesville, IN

#18 Feb 11, 2013
Quotes from Scientists Part 1.



Louis Pasteur (1822-1895)
Father of Microbiology, developed "pasteurization"

"The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the work of the Creator."

"Science brings men nearer to God."

Jean-Henri Fabre (1823-1915)
Entomology, Biology, Author of 8-volume series "Souvenirs Entomologiques" detailing the behavior and life history of many species

"Without Him, I understand nothing; without Him, all is darkness…Every period has its manias."

"I regard Atheism as a mania. It is the malady of the age."

"You could take my skin from me more easily than my faith in God."

M Jean Johannigman

Batesville, IN

#19 Feb 11, 2013
quotes from Sceinetists part 2

Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)
Physicist, Laws of Thermodynamics, Absolute temperature scale, inventor

"With regard to the origin of life, science...positively affirms creative power."

"Overwhelmingly strong proofs of intelligent and benevolent design lie around us...

"....the atheistic idea is so non-sensical that I cannot put it into words."



George Washington Carver ( 1864-1943)
agricultural chemist, inventor of over 300 products

"Without my Savior, I am nothing."

"I love to think of nature as an unlimited broadcasting station, through which God speaks to us every hour, if we will only tune in."

"God is going to reveal to us things he never revealed before if we put our hands in his. No books ever go into my laboratory, a thing I am to do and the way of doing it are revealed me."

M Jean Johannigman

Batesville, IN

#20 Feb 11, 2013
quotes from scientists part 3:
Sir Isaac Newton (1643 – 1727)
was an English physicist, mathematician, astronomer, alchemist, inventor and natural philosopher. He is often regarded as the most influential scientist in history and is best known for discovering the Laws of Gravity.
"Religion is partly fundamental & immutable partly circumstantial & mutable. The first was the Religion of Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham Moses Christ & all the saints & consists of two parts our duty towards God & our duty towards man or piety & righteousness, piety which I will here call Godliness & Humanity. Godliness consists in the knowledge love & worship of God, Humanity in love, righteousness & good offices towards man. "
"Atheism is so senseless & odious to mankind that it never had many professors. Can it be by accident that all birds beasts & men have their right side & left side alike shaped (except in their bowells) & just two eyes & no more on either side the face & just two ears on either side the head & a nose with two holes & no more between the eyes & one mouth under the nose & either two fore legs or two wings or two arms on the shoulders & two legs on the hips one on either side & no more? Whence arises this uniformity in all their outward shapes but from the counsel & contrivance of an Author? Whence is it that the eyes of all sorts of living creatures are transparent to the very bottom & the only transparent members in the body, having on the outside an hard transparent skin, & within transparent juices with a crystalline Lens in the middle & a pupil before the Lens all of them so truly shaped & fitted for vision, that no Artist can mend them? Did blind chance know that there was light & what was its refraction & fit the eyes of all creatures after the most curious manner to make use of it? These & such like considerations always have & ever will prevail with man kind to believe that there is a being who made all things & has all things in his power & who is therefore to be feared."

"Idolatry is a more dangerous crime because it is apt by the authority of Kings & under very specious pretenses to insinuate it self into mankind. Kings being apt to enjoy the honor of their dead ancestors: & it seeming very plausible to honor the souls of Heroes & Saints & to believe that they can hear us & help us & are mediators between God & man & reside & act principally in the temples & statues dedicated to their honor & memory? And yet this being against the principal part of religion is in scripture condemned & detested above all other crimes. The sin consists first in omitting the service of the true God."
"The other part of the true religion is our duty to man. We must love our neighbor as our selves, we must be charitable to all men for charity is the greatest of graces, greater then even faith or hope & covers a multitude of sins. We must be righteous & do to all men as we would they should do to us."
Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck ( 1858 – 1947) was one of the most important German physicists of the late 19th and early 20th century, winning the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1918; he is considered to be the inventor of quantum theory.
"As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter."

"Both Religion and science require a belief in God. For believers, God is in the beginning, and for physicists He is at the end of all considerations… To the former He is the foundation, to the latter, the crown of the edifice of every generalized world view."

http://www.catholicbible101.com/catholicsands...

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