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“Seek Light”

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#32513 Jan 15, 2013
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Well, what works for New York may not work in North Carolina. Or South Carolina. Virgina. DC. Vermont. Texas. Oregon. Illinois. New Jersey.
Gun control is hitting what you are aiming at. Why does the populous punish the law abiding, yet give the criminals and illegals a free pass? Better yet, if there must be back ground checks and more gun legislation, then there should be no problem with having to have a valid form of identification in order to cast a vote.
That seems fair.
Oooohhh Score!!!
LuLu

Lenoir, NC

#32514 Jan 15, 2013
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Well, what works for New York may not work in North Carolina. Or South Carolina. Virgina. DC. Vermont. Texas. Oregon. Illinois. New Jersey.
Gun control is hitting what you are aiming at. Why does the populous punish the law abiding, yet give the criminals and illegals a free pass? Better yet, if there must be back ground checks and more gun legislation, then there should be no problem with having to have a valid form of identification in order to cast a vote.
That seems fair.
Perfect, that will go hand in hand, how can you have a background check without an ID. No excuses not to have an ID to vote now, can't wait for this one. BTW Gunsamerica has a 4" SS .357 Python 1800.00 in NC.

Since: Dec 11

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#32515 Jan 16, 2013
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, where have you been?
Bans on guns limits your personal profits, so I can see your motivation.

Since: Dec 11

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#32516 Jan 16, 2013
LuLu wrote:
<quoted text>Perfect, that will go hand in hand, how can you have a background check without an ID. No excuses not to have an ID to vote now, can't wait for this one. BTW Gunsamerica has a 4" SS .357 Python 1800.00 in NC.
I'm in favor of getting rid of all drivers license. Wouldn't that solve most of the problems with ID for voting and gun purchases?

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#32517 Jan 16, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
Arnold you can bet your ass that New York has done states like Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico, and other pro gun states a big favor.Now, these states will legislate their own gun laws as well, but they won't much resemble the laws in New York.
True, but Federal Law is going to change.

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#32518 Jan 16, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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I'm in favor of getting rid of all drivers license. Wouldn't that solve most of the problems with ID for voting and gun purchases?
....and, while we are at it, let's not register our cars either, but instead put numbers, decals and sponsors on all our personal cars and "let's go racing, boys!"

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#32519 Jan 16, 2013
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly what is a "military style" killing machine AZ? I got a 1908 Mauser for sale. What firearm was used in the CT shooting? New York by-passed the Feds on law, beating them to the punch line, opening the door for other states to do the same or not. I believe that other can say "if NY can make their own laws, why can't we and our citizen don't want to ban AR rifles". Go NY.
I have already identified the gun used CT. in a previous post. Look it up. I am not handing it to you on a platter.

Since: Sep 12

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#32520 Jan 16, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Bans on guns limits your personal profits, so I can see your motivation.
Nice try AZ, I just work here and the very second, you ask that question, I knew that would be your argument. You don't know anything about my thoughts on gun reform. AGAIN, I think the laws need to be UNIFORM. AGAIN, I have THREE sets of laws I have to abide by when selling a firearm. That's just the start.

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#32521 Jan 16, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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I have already identified the gun used CT. in a previous post. Look it up. I am not handing it to you on a platter.
I knew theday it happened, just asking if you did.

Since: Dec 11

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#32522 Jan 16, 2013
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>Nice try AZ, I just work here and the very second, you ask that question, I knew that would be your argument. You don't know anything about my thoughts on gun reform. AGAIN, I think the laws need to be UNIFORM. AGAIN, I have THREE sets of laws I have to abide by when selling a firearm. That's just the start.
Yours is the same motive as the NRA in profit, but I know that you also take your job seriously and would follow the current laws and guidelines in your sales. Others are not as conscienous as you, unfortunately

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#32523 Jan 16, 2013
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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So who is to fault for the gang violence in LA? Chicago? New York? Our corrections systems?
That is a very good question. That issue needs to be investigated in more detail as well.

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#32524 Jan 16, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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I'm in favor of getting rid of all drivers license. Wouldn't that solve most of the problems with ID for voting and gun purchases?
You have not answered the one thing AZ I asked earlier, would you leave your car running? I guess you don't believe in "personal responsibility" do ya? I have been around firearms my entire life, from my Grandfather to my Dad in the Army, there are rules, basic, common sense rules. Egos have gotten a lot of people killed. The nut in AZ, CO and now CT. No one wanted them on a "mental health list". Gee how nice. You ever had a DWI? One of the questions they (law enforcement) always toss in "do you think you are a threat to yourself or others?" Why do they do that? The life changes when your on a list, job opportunities etc. I guess those people in AZ, CO and CT will never know, because someone was "looking out for the future of their child". There are more young people on meds today than ever. This problem runs way deeper that access to a metal object. It will rust unless a human picks it up.

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#32525 Jan 16, 2013
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>You have not answered the one thing AZ I asked earlier, would you leave your car running? I guess you don't believe in "personal responsibility" do ya? I have been around firearms my entire life, from my Grandfather to my Dad in the Army, there are rules, basic, common sense rules. Egos have gotten a lot of people killed. The nut in AZ, CO and now CT. No one wanted them on a "mental health list". Gee how nice. You ever had a DWI? One of the questions they (law enforcement) always toss in "do you think you are a threat to yourself or others?" Why do they do that? The life changes when your on a list, job opportunities etc. I guess those people in AZ, CO and CT will never know, because someone was "looking out for the future of their child". There are more young people on meds today than ever. This problem runs way deeper that access to a metal object. It will rust unless a human picks it up.
Yes, I am sorry I failed to answer your original question on the child in the car. Yes, I would be responsible for that incident if I left the keys in the car and the child was harmed. I also agree that some of the medicines available to people that do harm to themselves and others. I am for more awareness and and treatment of mental conditions that are detrimental to oneself and others. I think the main problem are the Gun Shows where no application needs to be filled out and reviewed. You talk about locking up guns in a safe place in the home, but many people that I mention this to say, "Is the criminal who invades my home going to wait while I go unlock my gun?"....so, this needs to be covered, but will also meet resistance. I just don't see the real purpose that these type of weapons have to the average citizen. Will you give me your defense of the general public owning military style weapons?

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#32526 Jan 16, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Yes, I am sorry I failed to answer your original question on the child in the car. Yes, I would be responsible for that incident if I left the keys in the car and the child was harmed. I also agree that some of the medicines available to people that do harm to themselves and others. I am for more awareness and and treatment of mental conditions that are detrimental to oneself and others. I think the main problem are the Gun Shows where no application needs to be filled out and reviewed. You talk about locking up guns in a safe place in the home, but many people that I mention this to say, "Is the criminal who invades my home going to wait while I go unlock my gun?"....so, this needs to be covered, but will also meet resistance. I just don't see the real purpose that these type of weapons have to the average citizen. Will you give me your defense of the general public owning military style weapons?
Gun shows require checks, INSIDE, it's outside the show that is the problem. Selling out of the "trunk of a car". "this needs to be covered"? What needs to be covered? Explain that one. Anyway you toss it AZ, this issue is about "responsibility". You own a firearm, you are responsible for what happens with its use, period. Do you hear that being said, no, because as a nation, it's always someone else fault. I own the firearm, but it's the makers fault I taught my disturbed son how to use it. I forgot that little question I answered when I purchased it that asked "Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective (which includes a determination by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that you are a danger to yourself or to others or are incompetent to manage your own affairs) OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?". It's the "own affairs" part that needs to be expanded on, don't you think? Describe a "military style" weapon, because if you take the rails, optics, tactical lights etc off an AR-15, what do you have?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#32527 Jan 16, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
Mike, can you lay off the Tourettes Syndrome for a minute, what do you think of my proposal for a personal meeting?
Personal meeting? Why?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#32528 Jan 16, 2013
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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And you haven't provided evidence that he does not exsist. There are the Dead Sea scrolls, the Bible and so on. Show us freedom? It's just like faith, an idea and belief.
The dead sea scrolls only prove their were believers back then.
One cannot prove Zeus does not exist either.
You have the freedom to worship, but I have the freedom to condemn your superstition at the same time.
Can you walk and chew gum at the same time?
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Point Harbor, NC

#32529 Jan 16, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Where does the will of the people fit in with this? You are operating from a huge flaw.This isn't 1900.Or 1700.This is 2013.The population of America is over three hundred million, third most populous country on earth.Technology has shot ahead at light speed.America has gone from an almost entirely rural population in 1776 to an almost entirely urban population in 2013.The country changes, adapts, with the changing times or it dies.You can't see that?
Were did the will of the people fit in the 1860? Were do the will of the people fit when we took the land from the Indians? Were did the will of the people fit in Nazi Germany? Mob rule (Democracy) is no better then a Fascist dictator. We are a Republic.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#32530 Jan 16, 2013
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Where have you been? Welcome back to reality. What do you think all the hub bub's been about since the shootings in Newtown, CT?
Civilian law enforcement not enforcing the law or being selective about the laws they enforce? I know it happens everyday but not to this degree. Otherwise, we'd see it in the news.
While, no new gun control laws are on the books yet, they will be soon because it your team will say they are looking out for our best interest by passing laws that take away more of our rights. First it is assault rifles and high capacity clips. Next it will be pistols and shotguns. After that, katie bar the door from government tyranny. The 2nd Amendment is the only reason why we have a chance at staving of tyranny.
Since most of us are gun owners I believe, why all the effort to curb our right to bear arms as we see fit? We haven't perpetrated any crimes, right? We legally own our firearms, right? We carry concealed legally and have not gone armed to the terror of the public, right? So why the renewed effort for gun control on law abiding citizens instead of a renewed effort to enforce laws on the criminals? Because of Newtown, CT? No one outlawed a single jet airliner after 9/11. Adam Lanza shot his way into a school filled with women and children after killing his mother. Notice he did not shoot his way into Camp Lejune or Fort Bragg or a police station?
Did you know that shotguns, in the state of NC, are considered a weapon of mass destruction because of the shot? Did you know that a baking soda and vinegar in a soda bottle is considered an IED and punishable as a class H felony in the state of NC? Did you also know that if you voluntarily sign yourself into a mental health facility, in the state of NC, you can sign yourself out?
Oh, so you are worried that their is some slippery slope, and not so much what is actually being made law by the states?
Most all lawmakers and the people feel their is a right to own guns in general. So I do not see a worry that guns would be banned by federal lawmakers.

Airliners were not outlawed, but the regulations stepped up quite a bit. No one is outlawing guns, but some are wanting regulations upped a bit.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#32531 Jan 16, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> I'm the one pointing out"typos", but i'm not a republican.I believe the answer is two pronged.Mental health care MUST BE IMPROVED! Ban the sale of military clones.Background checks at gun shows, ban the sale of ammo over the internet, ban high capacity mags.How's that for answering a question folks? I didn't even have to spew curses or engage in personality assassination.
Who's question is this answering again?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#32532 Jan 16, 2013
emlu wrote:
AZ, I posted my opinions on here after the Aurora shooting. It included the gun reforms I am in favor of, if you or Mike care to do the leg work and go look for them, fine. I will not hand it to you on a silver platter.
Heaven forbid you actually hand us an answer on a silver platter. I am sure it would hurt your brain to much.

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