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#61 Jan 7, 2011
VoiceofReason wrote:
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Thanks for the info. Iím only interested in marijuana from a medical perspective. Itís unfortunate that the point was lost on, NTMD8OR aka NIMROD! However, Iím going to check and see if the legal blends have been shown to be helpful with the disease my family member is trying to manage. So thanks again for the site information!
Happy to have (mabe) helped in some way. Remember that no one made drugs, everything is already here, they only learned to processed and refine the drugs to be what they are.

While looking for a certian herb or plant you will see alot of "it is believed to help" and will not say it "does" help. FDA and Drug companies are big business and block alot of information.

Let me know if I can help you more.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#62 Jan 7, 2011
VoiceofReason wrote:
<quoted text>If the penalties were higher for this type of travesty and people actually had to take personal responsibility for their own actions, the rest of the populationís freedoms wouldnít have to be infringed!
Need to get out my copy of the Constitution and find that freedom to smoke weed clause That is being infringed on. Can you tell me which amendment says that anyone has a right or freedom to partake in any illegal activity.

Like I have said here before. If you do not like a law then work to change it. Until then, don't break it and then cry how it should not be illegal anyway as so many do..

Oh, and until the law is changed to suit YOU, then maybe your "relative" or should move to San Francisco where they can smoke to their hearts desire.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#63 Jan 7, 2011
NTMD8OR wrote:
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You know it really makes sense when you think about it. If it is still in your system, then why would it not still have an affect on you? And it is detectable in your system for 30 days whereas most drugs and alcohol are gone in 3 days or less.
OK, I need to make a correction here. Upon re-reading my post, I realize that I did not properly convey my thoughts. What I meant was this.
You know it really makes sense when you think about it. That pot could still affect you as much as 24 hours later if it is detectable in your system for 30 days whereas most drugs and alcohol only affect you for a few hours and are gone in 3 days or less.
Sorry if some of you thought I meant that pot will affect you for 30 days as 1 person did.
Now here is the dilemma. If you smoke one or more times daily, and the affect MAY last up to 24 hours, are you willing to take that chance and drive? Are you really ever safe to drive? Something to think about, huh?
I'm sure that most will say yes but, Colby Maile thought he was good to go too.
VoiceofReason

Louisville, TN

#64 Jan 7, 2011
NTMD8OR wrote:
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OK, I need to make a correction here. Upon re-reading my post, I realize that I did not properly convey my thoughts. What I meant was this.
You know it really makes sense when you think about it. That pot could still affect you as much as 24 hours later if it is detectable in your system for 30 days whereas most drugs and alcohol only affect you for a few hours and are gone in 3 days or less.
Sorry if some of you thought I meant that pot will affect you for 30 days as 1 person did.
This is probably a waste of time because you donít get it and are still intent to spread your propaganda but here goesÖI didnít misunderstand anything you said. You are once again trying to twist what a person says to fit your own agenda. What you are saying,ďjust because it makes sense to youĒ, is incorrect. For example, studies show taking a mushroom will typically get you high for 4 to 8 hours. Studies also show you can still have effects from taking that same mushroom for up to two weeks after initially ingesting it. However, within 1 to 2 weeks after taking said mushroom; it will no longer be detectable in a drug screen. So now what? That kinda shoots holes in your uneducated, just because it makes senseĒ theory now doesnít it?
VoiceofReason

Louisville, TN

#65 Jan 7, 2011
NTMD8OR wrote:
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Need to get out my copy of the Constitution and find that freedom to smoke weed clause That is being infringed on. Can you tell me which amendment says that anyone has a right or freedom to partake in any illegal activity.
Like I have said here before. If you do not like a law then work to change it. Until then, don't break it and then cry how it should not be illegal anyway as so many do..
Oh, and until the law is changed to suit YOU, then maybe your "relative" or should move to San Francisco where they can smoke to their hearts desire.
Oh dear, funny you should mention this. You see, I was a history major in college and the US Constitution along with the founding fathers writings regarding the US Constitution, was a particular focus of interest of mine. I seriously doubt you know more about or have studied the US Constitution as extensively as I have. For the record, I do see this as a matter that should be left to the individual states. That is the way our constitutional framers intended!

If there is one thing I hate worse than a Socialist Loving Left-Wing Liberal, itís a damn idiot who sits around listening to Right-Wing satellite radio (as Iím sure you do all day while youíre on the road) and thinks they are a strict Constitutionalist when they donít even know what the document says! Yeah, you really do need to get out a copy of the US Constitution and read it! Do you need me to provide a link to it so you can read it?

Our federal government is involved in many things which the framers did not intend for them to be involved in, including this issue! So Iíll tell you what, when you find the article or amendment of the US Constitution that states it was the framers intent for the government to be involved in this issue or anything remotely like this, you get back to me. Iíll be waiting! Hereís a Hint: you wonít find anything like that because it isnít there!

Donít worry! I wonít be relocating anywhere anytime soon! I was raised here and Iím perfectly content living right here all while being able to make informed, educated and intelligent decisions! However, I would think there are has to be somewhere that you might fit in better! In all your travels trucking, havenít you found a colony of mindless idiots to commune with?

Oh one last thing, I like how you think you told me something by saying I should,ďwork to get marijuana legalized.Ē What idiot would get the impression that I wasnít? What an ignorant, little minded, simpleton you must be!

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#66 Jan 7, 2011
VoiceofReason wrote:
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Our federal government is involved in many things which the framers did not intend for them to be involved in, including this issue! So Iíll tell you what, when you find the article or amendment of the US Constitution that states it was the framers intent for the government to be involved in this issue or anything remotely like this, you get back to me. Iíll be waiting! Hereís a Hint: you wonít find anything like that because it isnít there!

Oh one last thing, I like how you think you told me something by saying I should,ďwork to get marijuana legalized.Ē What idiot would get the impression that I wasnít? What an ignorant, little minded, simpleton you must be!
I also followed that with "Until then, don't break it and then cry how it should not be illegal anyway as so many do" But you continue to cry about it.

Or how about "then maybe your "relative " or should move to San Francisco where they can smoke to their hearts desire." No comment on that suggestion huh? Sorry about the extra "or" in there. Not sure where that came from in my thinking.

Oh thanks for acknowledging that the constitution does NOT guarantee the freedom to smoke weed. I knew it didn't but wanted to see you admit it

NO life huh? The voice of reason not only here name-calling and bad
mouthing. But following me to other threads as well to spread your hate?
Not even the guts to register an account. How many more names you got?
VoiceofReason

United States

#67 Jan 8, 2011
NTMD8OR wrote:
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I also followed that with "Until then, don't break it and then cry how it should not be illegal anyway as so many do" But you continue to cry about it.
Or how about "then maybe your "relative " or should move to San Francisco where they can smoke to their hearts desire." No comment on that suggestion huh? Sorry about the extra "or" in there. Not sure where that came from in my thinking.
Oh thanks for acknowledging that the constitution does NOT guarantee the freedom to smoke weed. I knew it didn't but wanted to see you admit it
NO life huh? The voice of reason not only here name-calling and bad
mouthing. But following me to other threads as well to spread your hate?
Not even the guts to register an account. How many more names you got?
Is NTMD8OR your real name? What does my registering an account have to do with anything? Did I change my name when I posted to you on the other thread? I didnít follow you anywhere. Iíd been reading that for a while, I just got tired of your b.s. and called you out over there too! Also, I equate my calling you a ďcrusty old fartĒ(which you are) to being the same thing as you calling everyone one this thread who tried to have a reasonable debate with you a ďpot head or druggie.Ē If you canít stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

You are not foolish enough to think I proved your point regarding the constitutionality of the federal ban on marijuana. I proved the point that the framers did not intend for the federal government to interfere in these types of issues and it is unconstitutional (for what that is worth today) for them to do so. Your feeble attempt to distort the truth shows you know Iím right and you will say anything (no matter how ridiculous) to have the last word.

What gets me is why you just donít say what you really mean? Just say you think itís morally wrong (even if a person is extremely responsible and harms no one) and you think it should remain illegal. If a sick person needs it, they can be damned tooÖit should remain illegal, right? I still havenít gotten an answer from you on the reinstatement of prohibition. You most certainly are an advocate of that also, right? I mean just come on out and tell us how you really feel!

As for me and my family, none of us will be relocating to San Francisco! As I said before, it will be some time (hopefully) before we get to the level of needing any narcotic in the treatment of her disease. Until then, you can rest assured that I will be doing what I can to ensure that lawmakers do whatís right regarding legalizing marijuana for medical use at the very least. Be prepared Buddy, this great evil that you are so worried about is coming! Most medical professionals are behind this movement. If it isnít legal by that timeÖ.Iíve told you how Iíll handle it. End of story! You can be very confident in the fact that youíre telling me to ďdo whatís legalĒ had zero effect on me and what I know is right.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#68 Jan 8, 2011
VoiceofReason wrote:
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Is NTMD8OR your real name? What does my registering an account have to do with anything? Did I change my name when I posted to you on the other thread?
Unregistered accounts can change their names at will. Just because you use this name on a few posts on multiple accounts does not mean you do not post under other names. It just means you want no accountability on this forum.
VoiceofReason wrote:
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You are not foolish enough to think I proved your point regarding the constitutionality of the federal ban on marijuana. I proved the point that the framers did not intend for the federal government to interfere in these types of issues and it is unconstitutional (for what that is worth today) for them to do so. Your feeble attempt to distort the truth shows you know Iím right and you will say anything (no matter how ridiculous) to have the last word.
I simply wanted you to tell me where in the constitution is the freedom to smoke weed you were obviously referring to when you said this:

"People like him (and your knee jerk reaction that everything should be outlawed) are the reason people cannot get what they need. If the penalties were higher for this type of travesty and people actually had to take personal responsibility for their own actions, the rest of the populationís freedoms wouldnít have to be infringed! "

I did not say everything should be outlawed. But, weed is illegal and therefore potheads and their supporters are not only breaking but encouraging others to break the laws and finance the murdering drug cartels.
VoiceofReason wrote:
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What gets me is why you just donít say what you really mean? Just say you think itís morally wrong (even if a person is extremely responsible and harms no one) and you think it should remain illegal. If a sick person needs it, they can be damned tooÖit should remain illegal, right? I still havenít gotten an answer from you on the reinstatement of prohibition. You most certainly are an advocate of that also, right? I mean just come on out and tell us how you really feel!
I think anyone here can vouch for the fact that I am very outspoken and don't pull punches. I do say what I mean.

Prohibition? Although it would have no direct effect on my personal drug or alcohol consumption, it would not be feasible. Too many alcohol dependent people currently relying on that drug of choice. Why add more by making pot legal for everyone as well? But then I thought I was pretty clear the times I said 'If you don't like the law, work to get it changed"
VoiceofReason wrote:
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As for me and my family, none of us will be relocating to San Francisco! As I said before, it will be some time (hopefully) before we get to the level of needing any narcotic in the treatment of her disease. Until then, you can rest assured that I will be doing what I can to ensure that lawmakers do whatís right regarding legalizing marijuana for medical use at the very least. Be prepared Buddy, this great evil that you are so worried about is coming! Most medical professionals are behind this movement. If it isnít legal by that timeÖ.Iíve told you how Iíll handle it. End of story! You can be very confident in the fact that youíre telling me to ďdo whatís legalĒ had zero effect on me and what I know is right.
And if they don't legalize it where you are and you refuse to relocate to where it is legal. You will, as you said, start growing the pot that you need, therefore, you will indeed be a criminal. With no more concern for the safety of others than Colby Maile had when he murdered 2 innocent people while high on a combination of this illegal substance and a prescription medication. Which is and always has been my point.
VoiceofReason

United States

#69 Jan 8, 2011
NTMD8OR wrote:
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1)Think what you will. I havenít changed my name and posted with you on any other thread. Even on the thread were you stated,ďMost of the time itís the wifeís fault when her husband cheats.Ē I started to post there but decided you are so off the reservation on this point there wasnít much use in conversing with you about it! I have thought about registering an account. I havenít because I hate junk mail and didnít really want TOPIX (and whoever they decided to sell my email address) blowing up my account with junk. I may register an account eventually but it wonít be because you prodded me into it with your silly conspiracy theory.
2)The Bill of Rights doesnít say you have the right to eat food, breath air or start a family either. Article 10 (the most disregarded amendment in the constitution) spells out that any powers not delegated to the federal government in the US Constitution are left to the states and the people. So, indeed the government making marijuana illegal with no constitutional authority is an infringement of the statesí and peopleís rights.
3)Your assumption that making pot legal will add to the addiction problem is one that I disagree with. Studies show that it isnít an addictive substance. Pain pills are highly addictive and have some horrible side effects, hence my interest in the herb as stated before. Again, how presumptuous for you to tell me that ďI should be working on getting it legalized.Ē I was doing that long before we started having this conversation! Thatís some more of your telling everyone what to do garbage!
4)Again, what you are suggesting is so far off the reservation, I doubt if anyone can reign you back in. If itís really your personal opinion that growing a small amount of marijuana for a terminally ill family memberís personal use equates me with the person who murdered your friend, then I am sorry for you. You also believe that women whose husbands cheat are at fault and you look down your nose at women who have to work to help support their family so I consider the source. Iím all for taking personal responsibility so if I were to get caught in this future & tentative (at best) act, Iíll deal with that. You donít need to waste your time worrying or trying to lead me in the light.
beliver

Nashville, TN

#70 Jan 8, 2011
puff...(Hold)....(cough)...exh ale
Fact

Johnson City, TN

#71 Jan 12, 2011
Sure is quiet.

Since: Jan 11

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#72 Mar 27, 2012
lol after u smoke its happy, hungry, then sleepy...and if u drive after u smoke thats ur stupidity just like drinking and driving. Shouldn't dis weed cuz of one persons jackass action ya kno. If u eat after u smoke it brings u down and u get sober. Go hate on pills or man made shit.
KAt stevens

Richmond, VA

#73 Apr 5, 2012
NTMD8OR wrote:
Seems like people can't handle life so they have to get high on something. Then they get high on something and drive and kill someone. My opinion is, if you can't handle life without drugs or alcohol, thn why are you alive at all? I would much rather see you kill yourself than some innocent who happened to be on the same road you were on when you decided to get stoned and drive. I would also not want one of you drunks or druggies working for me, or working on a product that I might buy. I don't need my brakes on my new car assembled by some alcoholic or criminal who can't handle life without self-medication.
why can we handle life open your eyes look at what the gov is doing to we the people the constitution has no meaning any more we are all mind less fucks that need the gov to tell us what to do. Ya I'm talking to you this is my right. O wait we have no more rights. Obama care I made my point. Stop wasting my tax payers money on a war on drugs that will never be one. Lisen to Glen Beck Ron Paul for pres... Wake the fuck up and take the noose of your neck that the gov put there. Enough is enough... Go ahead try me I'm right your wrong

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#74 Apr 5, 2012
Bottom line. Smoking marijuana is currently illegal in most places, as is growing it. If you smoke it or grow it, you are a criminal. If you have enough in your possession, you are a felon.
As to the addiction studies. They are flawed. I know of two people in particular who were addicted to pot. Both had strokes and one is dead.

Smoking pot, as well as drinking and most drugs, change your perception of reality. If you gotta do that to deal with life, then you got problems that need to be addressed by a professional.

“Zombie Sickopath”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#75 Apr 5, 2012
As I read this sipping on my Vodka.
satinbound

United States

#76 May 8, 2012
Weed is an herb! All of weed should be legalized it's better than tobacco for u!!!

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