Greene County Vote on Retirement System

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Concerned Teacher

Greeneville, TN

#1 Feb 28, 2013
What was the decision on the retirement system at tonight's board meeting. We stood there for hours waiting and then were not allowed to speak... I had to leave. What was the outcome?
praying for this nation

Greeneville, TN

#2 Mar 1, 2013
Isn't Nathan Browns wife a teacher?
gvlle peep

Duluth, GA

#3 Mar 1, 2013
Nathan Brown's wife is a teacher, Tommy Cobble's son and daughter in law are teachers and we don't need to mention the ringleader Roger Jones. Seems like those with vested interest want to keep it while the other members looking out for taxpayers are told to hush. Cobble doesn't even speak unless Jones tells him to.
Voter

Greeneville, TN

#4 Mar 1, 2013
When are the School Board elections? Not soon enough, I know. And lest we forget the County Commissioner elections.
Just an observation

Greeneville, TN

#5 Mar 1, 2013
Trust me, at least one of those two concerned members of the schoolboard could care less about the tax payers of Greene County. She enjoys being in the limelight and the power that goes along with the job. I think she has always resented any raises or benefits that have been given to the teachers over the years. I hope she realizes, as well as her supporters, that all of us haven't had more than one sugar daddy in our lives to make it possible to have big homes, luxury cars, and nice clothes. Teachers deserve the salaries and benefits that they get. They definitely put up with a lot of resentment and lack of support from the citizens in Greene County. The average cost of babysitting is $80.00 per week. Multiply that by 52 weeks! I guarantee that amount would be much, much greater than the small amount of taxes the average person pays around here. Our taxes are very low compared to most of the states anyway!
polly

Greeneville, TN

#6 Mar 1, 2013
Just an observation wrote:
Trust me, at least one of those two concerned members of the schoolboard could care less about the tax payers of Greene County. She enjoys being in the limelight and the power that goes along with the job. I think she has always resented any raises or benefits that have been given to the teachers over the years. I hope she realizes, as well as her supporters, that all of us haven't had more than one sugar daddy in our lives to make it possible to have big homes, luxury cars, and nice clothes. Teachers deserve the salaries and benefits that they get. They definitely put up with a lot of resentment and lack of support from the citizens in Greene County. The average cost of babysitting is $80.00 per week. Multiply that by 52 weeks! I guarantee that amount would be much, much greater than the small amount of taxes the average person pays around here. Our taxes are very low compared to most of the states anyway!
If the salary and benefit package is not to your satisfaction, I would suggest that you explore other avenues of employment.
Just an observation

Greeneville, TN

#7 Mar 1, 2013
polly wrote:
<quoted text>If the salary and benefit package is not to your satisfaction, I would suggest that you explore other ave
nues of employment.
I, dear lady, am retired and have no need of looking for employment elsewhere. It justs irritates me that noone seems to appreciate the efforts of the teachers in this area, and seem to blame them personally for the meager tax increase that was passed. It's not the teachers's fault, and there in not one complainer in the bunch that would turn down a raise or a retirement bonus if it were coming their way! So please don't be so jealous and ugly to those that do get them! It's very unbecoming and a clear signal of the ignorance of so many citizens in our dear county!
polly

Greeneville, TN

#8 Mar 1, 2013
Just an observation wrote:
<quoted text>I, dear lady, am retired and have no need of looking for employment elsewhere. It justs irritates me that noone seems to appreciate the efforts of the teachers in this area, and seem to blame them personally for the meager tax increase that was passed. It's not the teachers's fault, and there in not one complainer in the bunch that would turn down a raise or a retirement bonus if it were coming their way! So please don't be so jealous and ugly to those that do get them! It's very unbecoming and a clear signal of the ignorance of so many citizens in our dear county!
Your ignorance of the current financial plight of local residents shows a complete lack of concern for so many citizens in our dear county! It is a very unbecoming attitude from a former supposed mentor. You probably were very adept at teaching Whining 101. I hope that your students failed that class, as it is not something that I find remotely attractive in a grownup.

Were you unaware of the pay and benefit package when you started the teaching profession? If you were, quit complaining. If you weren't, you aren't as smart as you should be to teach others.
Whatever

Elizabethton, TN

#9 Mar 1, 2013
Just an observation wrote:
<quoted text>I, dear lady, am retired and have no need of looking for employment elsewhere. It justs irritates me that noone seems to appreciate the efforts of the teachers in this area, and seem to blame them personally for the meager tax increase that was passed. It's not the teachers's fault, and there in not one complainer in the bunch that would turn down a raise or a retirement bonus if it were coming their way! So please don't be so jealous and ugly to those that do get them! It's very unbecoming and a clear signal of the ignorance of so many citizens in our dear county!
No one seems to appreciate what I do for a living either. As far as taxes in this state being lower than most states. Wages are also. Also, if I were getting a raise or bonus, it would come from the profits that I have made the company I work for. If there was no profit (extra money), then I would get nothing. I'm not downing teachers. What I'm saying is there is NO money to pay them with. How hard is that for "educated" people to understand. Do we keep raising land taxes every year to give teachers raises and bonuses?
Just an observation

Greeneville, TN

#10 Mar 1, 2013
polly wrote:
<quoted text>Your ignorance of the current financial plight of local residents shows a complete lack of concern for so many citizens in our dear county! It is a very unbecoming attitude from a former supposed mentor. You probably were very adept at teaching Whining 101. I hope that your students failed that class, as it is not something that I find remotely attractive in a grownup.
Were you unaware of the pay and benefit package when you started the teaching profession? If you were, quit complaining. If you weren't, you aren't as smart as you should be to teach others.
Excuse me Polly, but I am not the one that is complaining, you are! you are the one that is blaming teachers for tax increases! I stand by my previous comment that it isn't teachers' fault that taxes have been increased. Some people get frustrated when things don't go their way and simply must have a scapegoat to blame for what they have no control over. Contrary to what you might think, I am aware of the plight of people in our county. However, that gives noone the right to direct their anger toward those who try to do the most for the citizens, and that is to educate them in order that they may have a better chance for a more productive future later on . I still maintain that you personally would not turn down a pay raise or a retirement bonus if one came your way! However, I guess a fine person like you would donate it to the poor.LOL

Just an observation

Greeneville, TN

#11 Mar 1, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
No one seems to appreciate what I do for a living either. As far as taxes in this state being lower than most states. Wages are also. Also, if I were getting a raise or bonus, it would come from the profits that I have made the company I work for. If there was no profit (extra money), then I would get nothing. I'm not downing teachers. What I'm saying is there is NO money to pay them with. How hard is that for "educated" people to understand. Do we keep raising land taxes every year to give teachers raises and bonuses?
W@hen I got a raise or bonus it, too, came from the same taxes that I pay, just like you, to get it. Same difference! If you work at a place of employment that manufactures goods and products, then those people purchasing the products being produced has to spend their hard-earned money to buy them so that you can receive your compensation! I have never complained about my salary while teaching. Teaching has always been something I loved. My only argument on here is that it's unfair to blaqme the teaching profession for the tax increase. That decision was made by other people. It's demoralizing to be criticized for things one has no control over. I still stand by my belief that you and many others would not turn down a pay hike or a retirement bonus if it was given to you.
polly

Greeneville, TN

#12 Mar 1, 2013
Just an observation wrote:
<quoted text>Excuse me Polly, but I am not the one that is complaining, you are! you are the one that is blaming teachers for tax increases! I stand by my previous comment that it isn't teachers' fault that taxes have been increased. Some people get frustrated when things don't go their way and simply must have a scapegoat to blame for what they have no control over. Contrary to what you might think, I am aware of the plight of people in our county. However, that gives noone the right to direct their anger toward those who try to do the most for the citizens, and that is to educate them in order that they may have a better chance for a more productive future later on . I still maintain that you personally would not turn down a pay raise or a retirement bonus if one came your way! However, I guess a fine person like you would donate it to the poor.LOL
I actually do give to the poor through my business. I have donated my products to people who are less fortunate on more than one occasion, when they had the need and no money to pay.

I don't consider teachers to be in that category , since they make more than I do, have better insurance(they don't have to pay 100% like I do), many paid vacation days and sick days(those don't exist when you own a business), better hours, and a retirement program that is not solely dependent on their own donations like mine. I haven't had a raise in 10 years, but I have peace of mind knowing that I don't have to squeeze the last dime out of the hard working taxpayers, who make less than I do, simply because I think that I am doing such a wonderful job educating the youth of Greene County.
Just an observation

Greeneville, TN

#13 Mar 1, 2013
polly wrote:
<quoted text>I actually do give to the poor through my business. I have donated my products to people who are less fortunate on more than one occasion, when they had the need and no money to pay.
I don't consider teachers to be in that category , since they make more than I do, have better insurance(they don't have to pay 100% like I do), many paid vacation days and sick days(those don't exist when you own a business), better hours, and a retirement program that is not solely dependent on their own donations like mine. I haven't had a raise in 10 years, but I have peace of mind knowing that I don't have to squeeze the last dime out of the hard working taxpayers, who make less than I do, simply because I think that I am doing such a wonderful job educating the youth of Greene County.
Teachers are not squeezing the last dime from taxpayers. Why do you continue to blame teachers for tax increases? They don't have the power or authority to do that if they wanted to. I'm just trying so hard to make the public see that it isn't the teachers that are increasing taxes. Almost all of our salaries come from the state, not Greene County. It's just not right to blame the teaching profession for something they have no control over. I can understand your concern regarding higher taxes, just not for the fact that you blame edcutators.
Whatever

Elizabethton, TN

#14 Mar 1, 2013
Just an observation wrote:
<quoted text>W@hen I got a raise or bonus it, too, came from the same taxes that I pay, just like you, to get it. Same difference! If you work at a place of employment that manufactures goods and products, then those people purchasing the products being produced has to spend their hard-earned money to buy them so that you can receive your compensation! I have never complained about my salary while teaching. Teaching has always been something I loved. My only argument on here is that it's unfair to blaqme the teaching profession for the tax increase. That decision was made by other people. It's demoralizing to be criticized for things one has no control over. I still stand by my belief that you and many others would not turn down a pay hike or a retirement bonus if it was given to you.
The difference being is this. Nobody made the consumer buy the goods that I produced. If the goods that I were producing were not selling, no raise. I am not blaming teachers for anything. It just seems to me, that people like you, think that the teaching profession is the only job worthy of recognition. You still haven't answered my previous question. If there is no money to give raises each year. Should the commissioners vote to raise land taxes every year? I personally haven't had a raise in 7 years. I am content with that, seeing how the economy is. Would it actually be wrong for teachers to go a year or two without a raise?

polly is the whiner

Greeneville, TN

#15 Mar 1, 2013
If Polly is so jealous of teachers' benefits then maybe she should just go to college and become one. No wait, she would have to dish out the money for a college degree. Not to mention the out of pocket costs that teachers spend on their students each year.
polly

Greeneville, TN

#16 Mar 1, 2013
polly is the whiner wrote:
If Polly is so jealous of teachers' benefits then maybe she should just go to college and become one. No wait, she would have to dish out the money for a college degree. Not to mention the out of pocket costs that teachers spend on their students each year.
I have a college degree. You should be able to tell from my spelling, grammar, and vocabulary that I am not a high school dropout. Just because you spend one or two hundred dollars out of your pocket, do you think that makes you a martyr for the cause? Do something else if you don't like the pay.

By the way, you couldn't pay me enough to deal with a bunch of spoiled children and their parents, but that doesn't mean that you deserve more money from people who can't afford it right now. You also couldn't pay me enough to work in a nursing home. If anyone deserves a raise BECAUSE OF THE WORK, it would be them, or people who work in restaurants. The market determines your pay. If you don't feel that you are being fairly compensated, DO SOMETHING ELSE!
here to stay

Greeneville, TN

#17 Mar 4, 2013
Is anyone able to post which school board member goes with which school district. Is Roger Jones in an elected position or appointed position? When are the elections?
greeneville tn

Greeneville, TN

#18 Mar 4, 2013
Just an observation wrote:
<quoted text>Teachers are not squeezing the last dime from taxpayers. Why do you continue to blame teachers for tax increases? They don't have the power or authority to do that if they wanted to. I'm just trying so hard to make the public see that it isn't the teachers that are increasing taxes. Almost all of our salaries come from the state, not Greene County. It's just not right to blame the teaching profession for something they have no control over. I can understand your concern regarding higher taxes, just not for the fact that you blame edcutators.
If you don't want tax payers blaming teachers you might want to get Roger Jones out of your way as speaker for the teachers. By the way just asking does he work for the union? Sounds like union man to me. Kirk looks stupid in the paper. Head hung down. She and Jones and this board created this mess. I looked over the teacher pool carefully in the paper. If I find out that any of these so-called educators who have my children acted like a third grader you can bet I'll be reporting to the principal about it. DISGUSTED TAX PAYER! My admiration for teachers is beginning to dwindle fast when I see such a scene in the local paper. You don't see city teachers acting so childish. Why can't you all get the big picture. Schools got delayed AND sports was threatened AND TAXES WERE RAISED because of your lavish bonuses. You want bonuses like this go to the big cities. This happens to be Greeneville, Tn!
Teacher

Greeneville, TN

#19 Mar 4, 2013
Don't assume that Roger Jones speaks for all teachers. I voted against the wheel tax increase and was against the land tax increase. Some of us teach because we want to help pass on knowledge.
GC Voter

Greeneville, TN

#20 Mar 5, 2013
I think the commissioners and school board are dems and rinos.

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