Respect Yourself

United States

#26 Mar 15, 2014
Richard Dawkins wrote:
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The Bible is no better than any other religion that has ever existed.
Pale Blue Dot Quotes speaking of the Earth as seen from Space

“Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
&#8213; Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space
Really

Greeneville, TN

#27 Mar 15, 2014
Richard Dawkins wrote:
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No there wasn't. The story of jesus is a fictional tale. It's actually copied from stories in other ancient religions that are now extinct. One example being a divine being named Horus who was the son of the Egyptian god Osiris was born of a virgin women. Horus performed many of the same miracles such as healing the sick, the blind, and raising the dead. He also had 12 disciples and was crucified(Romans did not invent crucifixion it was done thousands of years prior by other civilizations) and resurrected on the third day. If jesus was a real man he did not perform any miracles he was just a man that spoke against the hypocrisy of the gentiles and died a martyr. The story of Jesus was never written until 40 years after he supposedly died by a man named Josephus.
Do you know all this to be true? Or have you just read this? What makes this story that you have read any more believable than the bible? Do you for sure know it to be fact?
Respect Yourself

United States

#28 Mar 15, 2014
Really wrote:
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Do you know all this to be true? Or have you just read this? What makes this story that you have read any more believable than the bible? Do you for sure know it to be fact?
You are picking a fight out of your weight class, friend.
Sometimes it's best to just walk away.
Truthbeknown

United States

#29 Mar 15, 2014
Respect Yourself wrote:
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You are picking a fight out of your weight class, friend.
Sometimes it's best to just walk away.


LOL! And you? You jump right in with great words of wisdom that if taken to heart by all on this beautiful blue dot, would transform it into the wonderful land of tranquility that the Creator intended it to be, are you not way out of your weight class? You just killed this thread. With you speaking real truths just took away every ones ability to carry on their " hate for God" reasoning on this forum. OMG! If Phil reads your previous post and it ACTUALLY SINKS IN, what will he ever have to talk about again?

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#30 Mar 16, 2014
Truthbeknown wrote:
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LOL! And you? You jump right in with great words of wisdom that if taken to heart by all on this beautiful blue dot, would transform it into the wonderful land of tranquility that the Creator intended it to be, are you not way out of your weight class? You just killed this thread. With you speaking real truths just took away every ones ability to carry on their " hate for God" reasoning on this forum. OMG! If Phil reads your previous post and it ACTUALLY SINKS IN, what will he ever have to talk about again?
You should dust off your bible and actually read it instead of only hearing what your redneck preacher sais. You will find that it condones slavery, rape, theft, incest, murder and genocide of innocent people. Your imaginary friend god is not a loving being. He's actually a narcissistic, selfish asshole. Perhaps you and all christians should convert to Hinduism; it's a lot less inhumane.

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#31 Mar 16, 2014
dawkins lol wrote:
Couldn't you come up with a better name than using the pompous windbag dawkins?
why not just copy and paste his books? lol
at least dawkins has the sense to admit he cannot confirm nor deny the existence of god.
i did admit that i can't prove that there is no God; just like bigfoot skeptics can't prove to bigfoot believers that he is not real.
wow

Greeneville, TN

#32 Mar 16, 2014
The bible does NOT condone those things. If you honestly believe it does, then give me the book and chapter. You are crazy. Please find me somewhere in the bible where it condones any of that and I'll be glad to show you that it does not.
Richard Dawkins wrote:
<quoted text>You should dust off your bible and actually read it instead of only hearing what your redneck preacher sais. You will find that it condones slavery, rape, theft, incest, murder and genocide of innocent people. Your imaginary friend god is not a loving being. He's actually a narcissistic, selfish asshole. Perhaps you and all christians should convert to Hinduism; it's a lot less inhumane.
dawkins lol

Anonymous Proxy

#33 Mar 16, 2014
Richard Dawkins wrote:
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i did admit that i can't prove that there is no God; just like bigfoot skeptics can't prove to bigfoot believers that he is not real.
your words.
Richard Dawkins wrote:
God is not real and the creationist vs evolution debate should no longer be in question. It's time to use logic and get over believing in desert tribe myths. That's why American kid are falling behind the rest of the world in education.

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#34 Mar 16, 2014
wow wrote:
The bible does NOT condone those things. If you honestly believe it does, then give me the book and chapter. You are crazy. Please find me somewhere in the bible where it condones any of that and I'll be glad to show you that it does not.
<quoted text>
LOL i knew this would happen and i got all the proof i need. Read these verses and you cannot tell me i'm wrong.
Psalms 137:9
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Exodus 21:20-21
Deuteronomy 13:6-11
Exodus 21:7-11
Exodus 21:2-7
Judges 5:30-31
Genesis 19:8
Genesis 19:36
Numbers 31: 17-18 (I forgot to mention it's ok to rape other women if they are not a member of your Hebrew tribe)

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#35 Mar 16, 2014
dawkins lol wrote:
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your words.
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Read my last post from the first page where is said "science may not be able to prove it's latest theories"
wow

Greeneville, TN

#36 Mar 16, 2014
You do realize that these are "stories" that are being illustrated. That does not mean that God condones these things. The bible speaks on a lot of things and these are where there is a whole chapter(s) worth of events going on. That is not the bible condoning these things.
Richard Dawkins wrote:
<quoted text>LOL i knew this would happen and i got all the proof i need. Read these verses and you cannot tell me i'm wrong.
Psalms 137:9
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Exodus 21:20-21
Deuteronomy 13:6-11
Exodus 21:7-11
Exodus 21:2-7
Judges 5:30-31
Genesis 19:8
Genesis 19:36
Numbers 31: 17-18 (I forgot to mention it's ok to rape other women if they are not a member of your Hebrew tribe)

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#37 Mar 16, 2014
wow wrote:
You do realize that these are "stories" that are being illustrated. That does not mean that God condones these things. The bible speaks on a lot of things and these are where there is a whole chapter(s) worth of events going on. That is not the bible condoning these things.
<quoted text>
Then i guess you don't really believe the bible is the word of god then.
wow

Greeneville, TN

#39 Mar 16, 2014
Richard Dawkins wrote:
<quoted text>Then i guess you don't really believe the bible is the word of god then.
Just because I say the word "rape" doesn't mean I condone rape...

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#40 Mar 16, 2014
wow wrote:
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Just because I say the word "rape" doesn't mean I condone rape...
You demonstrate willful ignorance at it's highest level.
"They must be dividing the spoils they took; there must be a damsel or two for each man"
Judges 5:30-31 King James version

"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath know man by lying with him. But all the women and children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."
Numbers 31:17-18 King James version

These verses most definitely condone rape without even mentioning with the word. If you don't see this then you are dumb.

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#42 Mar 16, 2014
dawkins lol wrote:
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Instead of dollar tree brands you should shave with Occam's razor.
I prefer Gillette Fusion Pro glide for the closest shave gurantee
wow

Greeneville, TN

#43 Mar 17, 2014
Richard Dawkins wrote:
<quoted text>You demonstrate willful ignorance at it's highest level.
"They must be dividing the spoils they took; there must be a damsel or two for each man"
Judges 5:30-31 King James version

"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath know man by lying with him. But all the women and children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."
Numbers 31:17-18 King James version

These verses most definitely condone rape without even mentioning with the word. If you don't see this then you are dumb.
I don't know as much about the bible as I should but I know that a lot of these verses you are picking out have to be taken in context. Those verses you are picking out, that may be an evil king talking, I don't know. The bible had a lot of stories in it that aren't just God or Jesus talking.

That's why I said you have to read the whole section as figure out what is going on in that particular section. Which goes back to my other comment. I don't think a lot of you God haters are as smart as you think you are.
wow

Greeneville, TN

#44 Mar 17, 2014
But I'm done trying to talk to you. I know and you know that I'm not going to change your mind. I just hope you realize what you are doing before it's too late. I know you hear this all the time but I really will pray for you. Only reason I jumped on here is to try to help open your eyes, try to help you see the other side of the argument.

God is real my friend, and the only way to know is to search for him. Pray and seek him and you will find him.

Since: Feb 14

Greeneville, TN

#45 Mar 18, 2014
Richard Dawkins wrote:
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You demonstrate willful ignorance at it's highest level.
"They must be dividing the spoils they took; there must be a damsel or two for each man"
Judges 5:30-31 King James version
"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath know man by lying with him. But all the women and children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."
Numbers 31:17-18 King James version
These verses most definitely condone rape without even mentioning with the word. If you don't see this then you are dumb.
The Bible is not JUST the word of God and the words of Jesus it is HISTORY of the tribes of Israel - God's chosen people.

You can take His words out of context all that you wish but it changes nothing.

Atheists hate God so much and maybe with good reason. Deep inside their souls they know that He exists and they are in fear of where they will end up for eternity!
The Quoter

Johnson City, TN

#46 Mar 18, 2014
Killing babies is another method God uses to express his anger. As already noted, babies were drowned in the worldwide Flood, Genesis 7:20-23 Egyptian babies were among the firstborn killed at the Passover,Exodus 12:29-30 and babies were killed in the wars of extermination. E.g., Joshua 11:14

This divine punishment was also used after King David succeeded in having a loyal Israeli soldier, Uriah, killed in battle. David selfishly took this act in order to steal Uriah’s wife, Bathsheba.

Although David was the one who committed premeditated murder, the son Bathsheba bore to him received the brunt of God’s punishment. God, in his infinite wisdom and justice, punished David by killing the baby II Samuel 12:7-18
The Quoter

Johnson City, TN

#47 Mar 18, 2014
Isaiah says a similar punishment would be used against the Babylonians. He quotes the Lord as vowing that “infants will be dashed to the ground before their eyes.... I will stir up against them the Medes,... who have no pity on little children and spare no mother’s son....” Isaiah 13:15-18

The book of Psalms indicates that those inflicting this punishment can enjoy it. The book says about Babylon:“Happy is he who shall seize your children and dash them against the rock.” Psalm 137:8-9

Hosea prophesizes that Samaria will receive the same treatment. He explains:“Samaria will become desolate because she has rebelled against her God; her babes will fall by the sword and be dashed to the ground, her women with child shall be ripped up.” Hosea 13:16

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