Stop hoarding all the ammo

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Obama

Johnson City, TN

#1 Mar 2, 2013
Some ppl actually enjoy shooting but when you retards panic an everyone and your granny goes and buys up all the ammo and never shoots at all and does it the next day. Makes it hard for ppl that enjoy shooting. I seen 75 ppl waiting to buy ammo the other day crazy freakin hoarders .think u never will have enough ammo to stop an army god u all are stupid
Wet Willie

Greeneville, TN

#2 Mar 3, 2013
Obama wrote:
Some ppl actually enjoy shooting but when you retards panic an everyone and your granny goes and buys up all the ammo and never shoots at all and does it the next day. Makes it hard for ppl that enjoy shooting. I seen 75 ppl waiting to buy ammo the other day crazy freakin hoarders .think u never will have enough ammo to stop an army god u all are stupid
I agree 100%. I like to go shoot, but I don't want to use up what little I have, because I can't replace it. I usually shoot .22,.223, 9mm, and a little .45. Now, I sit at home and think about shooting.

I think some of these guys believe that there will be a shooting war with the government. If there is, the government will find them, and blow their ass out of the water long before they can shoot all the ammo that they hoard.
Hartford ky lady

Hawesville, KY

#3 Mar 3, 2013
Ive been hoarding ammo since 1994. Im grandmothered in.
Sister Fatima

Jonesborough, TN

#4 Mar 3, 2013
Talk to the distributors. Do you wonder why they are only letting small amounts of ammo trickle out at a time? You would think that in a capitalist society where suply and demand dictate sales, the distributors would crank out the ammo as quickly as it is bought up.

I talked to Wal-Mart the other day and I asked them why they dont order enough ammo to go around, just think of all the sales they are missing! They told me they DO order more than enough but the distributors will not allow it.

If you enjoy shooting, invest in a reloading press.

Oh, and the idea that there is not enough ammo to go around is what it creating the hoarding behavior. There is, in reality, PLENTY of ammo to go around. Maybe you should investigate why it is there is so little of it available to us in the stores. This just shouldnt be.

ANY OTHER ITEM would be stocked and shelved as fast as it is sold.
Sister Fatima

Jonesborough, TN

#5 Mar 3, 2013
And I would like to add that nobody (or very few) people think they are going to war with the government. The reason people want ammo is because they are afriad it will be banned.

We know we are dead-meaters if the feds kick the door in, it's not about war it is about the freedom the bear arms. If I were a law-maker and I wanted to disarm the populace but couldnt get around the 2nd amendment, the first thing I would do is ban the ammo. Firearms are useless without it and it doesnt violate the constitution.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#6 Mar 3, 2013
Hartford ky lady wrote:
Ive been hoarding ammo since 1994. Im grandmothered in.
I'm keeping my ammo. I've hoarded some, but my ex-wife whored most of it. Either way, I'm keeping it.
Wet Willie

Greeneville, TN

#7 Mar 3, 2013
Sister Fatima wrote:
Talk to the distributors. Do you wonder why they are only letting small amounts of ammo trickle out at a time? You would think that in a capitalist society where suply and demand dictate sales, the distributors would crank out the ammo as quickly as it is bought up.
I talked to Wal-Mart the other day and I asked them why they dont order enough ammo to go around, just think of all the sales they are missing! They told me they DO order more than enough but the distributors will not allow it.
If you enjoy shooting, invest in a reloading press.
Oh, and the idea that there is not enough ammo to go around is what it creating the hoarding behavior. There is, in reality, PLENTY of ammo to go around. Maybe you should investigate why it is there is so little of it available to us in the stores. This just shouldnt be.
ANY OTHER ITEM would be stocked and shelved as fast as it is sold.
Have you ever tried to reload a .22? It is really tough stuffing the powder into the rim.
Barry Is A Failure

Greeneville, TN

#8 Mar 3, 2013
Obama thinks he has a mandate to do whatever he pleases now, and everyone knows it. He won't kick things into high gear until the last 2 years of his term.
Everyone knows he would severely limit guns and ammo now if there weren't House elections in 2 years. He wants his people elected in that election so he'll just make his continual media blitzes until then. If you think it's bad now, wait until the Demotards take control of the House in Nov 2014, and they will (because you'll keep your mouths shut and let them).
Wet Willie

Greeneville, TN

#10 Mar 3, 2013
Sister Fatima wrote:
And I would like to add that nobody (or very few) people think they are going to war with the government. The reason people want ammo is because they are afriad it will be banned.
We know we are dead-meaters if the feds kick the door in, it's not about war it is about the freedom the bear arms. If I were a law-maker and I wanted to disarm the populace but couldnt get around the 2nd amendment, the first thing I would do is ban the ammo. Firearms are useless without it and it doesnt violate the constitution.
I know men in their 60's and 70's who have thousands of rounds of several calibers, and a year supply of freeze dried food. They may go shooting once or twice a year, and shoot up 100 rounds. Why are they still buying up ammo? They won't sell it, and they won't shoot it up.

They think that they will be at war with the government. I don't believe that they will live long enough to shoot it all against the army. I think that is insane, but hoarders are insane.

Then you have the profiteers. They go around to gun stores, buy up the ammo, and take it to the gun shows , and mark it way up. I went to a gun show last week, and saw bricks of .22's that were $17 or $18 three months ago. At the gun show they were marked $70. I bought steel jacketed non-reloadable Russian TulAmmo .223 for $5.99 for a box of 20 at Mahoney's three months ago. At the gun show it was marked $28. I agree with the original poster. Stop hoarding all the ammo. Some of us actually use it.
Sister Fatima

Jonesborough, TN

#11 Mar 3, 2013
Wet Willie wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever tried to reload a .22? It is really tough stuffing the powder into the rim.
No because I have never had trouble buying ammo for a .22.
Sister Fatima

Jonesborough, TN

#12 Mar 3, 2013
Wet Willie wrote:
<quoted text>I know men in their 60's and 70's who have thousands of rounds of several calibers, and a year supply of freeze dried food. They may go shooting once or twice a year, and shoot up 100 rounds. Why are they still buying up ammo? They won't sell it, and they won't shoot it up.
They think that they will be at war with the government. I don't believe that they will live long enough to shoot it all against the army. I think that is insane, but hoarders are insane.
Then you have the profiteers. They go around to gun stores, buy up the ammo, and take it to the gun shows , and mark it way up. I went to a gun show last week, and saw bricks of .22's that were $17 or $18 three months ago. At the gun show they were marked $70. I bought steel jacketed non-reloadable Russian TulAmmo .223 for $5.99 for a box of 20 at Mahoney's three months ago. At the gun show it was marked $28. I agree with the original poster. Stop hoarding all the ammo. Some of us actually use it.
You have several valid points but my original point seems to be getting overlooked. Why isnt there enough ammo to go around? The idea that hoarders are the reason you cant get ammo is erronious in a capitalist society. If people demand a product the ompanies respod by producing and selling as much of it as possible in order to meet the demand.

There is not a finite supply of ammo. It is being doled out bit by bit. This seems illogical to me.

Like I said, you have some really good points and I dont entirely disagree because your argument is not without merit. I just think we should look more closely at the underlying reason for the ammo shortage.
Conspiracy theorist

Greeneville, TN

#13 Mar 3, 2013
Sister Fatima wrote:
<quoted text>
You have several valid points but my original point seems to be getting overlooked. Why isnt there enough ammo to go around? The idea that hoarders are the reason you cant get ammo is erronious in a capitalist society. If people demand a product the ompanies respod by producing and selling as much of it as possible in order to meet the demand.
There is not a finite supply of ammo. It is being doled out bit by bit. This seems illogical to me.
Like I said, you have some really good points and I dont entirely disagree because your argument is not without merit. I just think we should look more closely at the underlying reason for the ammo shortage.
The government has placed orders for 1.6 billion rounds recently, which amounts to enough ammo to carry on the war in Iraq at its peak for 24 years. It also represents 5 rounds per head for every citizen. Some believe that the government is preparing for civil unrest in the event of economic collapse. The ammo was ordered with hollow point bullets, which are illegal under the Geneva Convention. I doubt that they are for target practice. Whatever the reason for the purchase, this exacerbates the shortage.
Wet Willie

Greeneville, TN

#14 Mar 3, 2013
Sister Fatima wrote:
<quoted text>
No because I have never had trouble buying ammo for a .22.
I have trouble when I see a brick of cheap plinking .22 ammo at a gun show for $70. I walk on by , and don't shoot what I have.
Sister Fatima

Jonesborough, TN

#15 Mar 3, 2013
Wet Willie wrote:
<quoted text>I have trouble when I see a brick of cheap plinking .22 ammo at a gun show for $70. I walk on by , and don't shoot what I have.
I agree.
Hartford ky lady

Hawesville, KY

#16 Mar 3, 2013
My collection is only .357 hollow points and .38s. I only paid about $13.00 per brick back in the 90's. Glad i didn't shoot them cause they over $50.00 now. We all have known for awhile it would come to this.
greene guy

Lyman, SC

#17 Mar 3, 2013
do some research. Obama is startig a civilian army through DHS. They have purchased close to 2 billion rounds of assorted calibers. They have purchased thousands of bullet proof check point buildings. DHS has also purchased hundreds of armor plated vehicles and in the process of deploying drones around the country. I can provide links to all of this information but it is better if you research this for yourself
Conspiracy Theorist

Greeneville, TN

#18 Mar 3, 2013
greene guy wrote:
do some research. Obama is startig a civilian army through DHS. They have purchased close to 2 billion rounds of assorted calibers. They have purchased thousands of bullet proof check point buildings. DHS has also purchased hundreds of armor plated vehicles and in the process of deploying drones around the country. I can provide links to all of this information but it is better if you research this for yourself
I have read all of it.
greene guy

Lyman, SC

#19 Mar 3, 2013
Homeland Security graduates first Corps of Obama’s Brown Shirts – Homeland Youth

The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. Regardless of their name, the Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth. Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country.


On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders. While the idea of having a volunteer force of tens of thousands of volunteers scattered across the country to aid in times of natural disasters sounds great, the details and timing of this new government army is somewhat curious, if not disturbing.

DHS raising an armed army

The first problem one finds with this ‘new army’ is the fact that they are mere children. Yes, 18 is generally the legal age a person can sign a contract, join the military or be tried as an adult. But ask any parent – an 18, 20 or even a 24 year-old is still a naïve, readily-influenced kid.

The second problem with this announcement and program is its timing. Over the past two years, President Obama has signed a number of Executive Orders suspending all civil and Constitutional rights and turning over management of an America under Martial Law to FEMA. Also in that time, domestic federal agencies under DHS, including FEMA, have ordered billions of rounds of ammunition as well as the corresponding firearms. Admittedly, these new weapons and ammunition aren’t to be used in some far-off war or to fight forest fires in California, but right here on the streets of America.

Strange Armored Fighting Vehicles

Individuals around the US have begun reporting the site of strange, new, heavily-armed FEMA fighting vehicles. What would a disaster relief agency like FEMA need with 2,500 brand new GLS armored fighting vehicles? According to the agency’s own mandate, as well as President Obama’s recent Executive Order, the answer is ‘population control’ during a time of Martial Law.

One set of images made available by Rense.com shows trailer after trailer carrying these new DHS and FEMA armored fighting vehicles, complete with machine gun slots. They’re labeled with the usual backward American flag and the title,‘Homeland Security’. Below that and the DHS logo, it also reads,‘Immigration & Customs Enforcement’. Joining those markings, the black vehicles with white lettering also display ‘POLICE/RESCUE’ on one side and ‘Special Response Team’ on the other.

DHS & FEMA armed fighting vehicles. Images courtesy of Rense.com .

FEMA Corps

FEMA Deputy Administrator Rich Serino gave the keynote address at the ‘Induction Ceremony’ for the inaugural class of FEMA Corps members. According to the DHS website,‘Corps members assist with disaster preparedness, response, and recovery activities, providing support in areas ranging from working directly with disaster survivors to supporting disaster recovering centers to sharing valuable disaster preparedness and mitigation information with the public.’


‘Yesterday, we welcomed 231 energetic members into the first ever FEMA Corps class. The members just finished off their first month of training with our partners at the Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS) and are one step closer to working in the field on disaster response and recovery. They will now head to FEMA’s Center for Domestic Preparedness to spend the next two weeks training in their FEMA position-specific roles. Once they complete both the CNCS and FEMA training, these 231 dedicated FEMA Corps members will be qualified to work in one of a variety of disaster related roles, ranging from Community Relations to Disaster Recovery Center support.’
greene guy

Lyman, SC

#20 Mar 3, 2013
Homeland Security graduates first Corps of Obama’s Brown Shirts

October 7, 2012. Vicksburg. The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. Regardless of their name, the Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth. Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country.


On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders. While the idea of having a volunteer force of tens of thousands of volunteers scattered across the country to aid in times of natural disasters sounds great, the details and timing of this new government army is somewhat curious, if not disturbing.

DHS raising an armed army

The first problem one finds with this ‘new army’ is the fact that they are mere children. Yes, 18 is generally the legal age a person can sign a contract, join the military or be tried as an adult. But ask any parent – an 18, 20 or even a 24 year-old is still a naïve, readily-influenced kid.

The second problem with this announcement and program is its timing. Over the past two years, President Obama has signed a number of Executive Orders suspending all civil and Constitutional rights and turning over management of an America under Martial Law to FEMA. Also in that time, domestic federal agencies under DHS, including FEMA, have ordered billions of rounds of ammunition as well as the corresponding firearms. Admittedly, these new weapons and ammunition aren’t to be used in some far-off war or to fight forest fires in California, but right here on the streets of America.

Strange Armored Fighting Vehicles

Individuals around the US have begun reporting the site of strange, new, heavily-armed FEMA fighting vehicles. What would a disaster relief agency like FEMA need with 2,500 brand new GLS armored fighting vehicles? According to the agency’s own mandate, as well as President Obama’s recent Executive Order, the answer is ‘population control’ during a time of Martial Law.

One set of images made available by Rense.com shows trailer after trailer carrying these new DHS and FEMA armored fighting vehicles, complete with machine gun slots. They’re labeled with the usual backward American flag and the title,‘Homeland Security’. Below that and the DHS logo, it also reads,‘Immigration & Customs Enforcement’. Joining those markings, the black vehicles with white lettering also display ‘POLICE/RESCUE’ on one side and ‘Special Response Team’ on the other.


FEMA Deputy Administrator Rich Serino gave the keynote address at the ‘Induction Ceremony’ for the inaugural class of FEMA Corps members. According to the DHS website,‘Corps members assist with disaster preparedness, response, and recovery activities, providing support in areas ranging from working directly with disaster survivors to supporting disaster recovering centers to sharing valuable disaster preparedness and mitigation information with the public.’

Serino describes what the first FEMA Corps class has accomplished so far, as well as where they’ll be going next:

‘Yesterday, we welcomed 231 energetic members into the first ever FEMA Corps class. The members just finished off their first month of training with our partners at the Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS) and are one step closer to working in the field on disaster response and recovery. They will now head to FEMA’s Center for Domestic Preparedness to spend the next two weeks training in their FEMA position-specific roles. Once they complete both the CNCS and FEMA training, these 231 dedicated FEMA Corps members will be qualified to work in one of a variety of disaster related roles, ranging from Community Relations to Disaster Recovery Center support.’
observer

Johnson City, TN

#21 Mar 5, 2013
'greene guy' should change his name to 'hit and run.' Spews all kinds of anti-Obama stuff then disappears when anybody calls him on it.

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