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GulfWarVet

York, PA

#35 Aug 4, 2011
Obviously you're not an Average Jo but part of the problem my friend - "Hamas, who even tho wants to be a Muslim government and take over Isreal, runs charities, schools, hospitals, and other social service organizations in Gaza where employment is at times as high as 85%?" - this is why Hamas shouldn't be supported. For example, given enough funds, Israel is no longer around, nor is the U.S.
Are you pro-Muslim or anti-Jewish. Are there any Muslims out there that wouldn't love to see Israel destroyed? If so please speak up because it is anti-semitic comments such as this why Americans are starting to mistrust Muslims. I'm just saying
Average Jo

United States

#36 Aug 4, 2011
Guess I'm not average since I'm upper lower class and educated haha
I was simply stating facts and giving background on Hamas and as to why other Muslims would support them, especially in a social sense.(They remind me kinda of the mafia, you don't really agree with their tactics but they give back so much to the community that you ignore the wrongdoing. I love Italians so don't even go there. Really try to see where I was going with the post) That's what they believe and they have the right to believe that whether I think it is right or wrong. And although they could possibly be a threat to the U.S, they currently are not focused on us. I'm not an Anti-Semite and I strongly agree with the separation of church and state. Again, I was just stating facts.
But I can see where you are coming from tho-if Hamas sends funds from America it could possibly lead to the invasion of Isreal. Do I want Isreal to be invaded? No! I don't think Iraq or Afghanistan shouldve been invaded or any other country especially ours for that matter. I do see what you're saying in that sense.
However, if we persecute the Muslim religion in this country where we have freedom of religion, we have set a precedent for all our rights to be changed or removed to limit our freedoms. I will not stand for that. I speak my mind, I own a gun, and I will defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. So if that's a problem my friend, then I will keep being the problem.
To average Joe

Jonesborough, TN

#37 Aug 4, 2011
I dont think anyone is persucuting the religion of Islam, but rather the "KILL THE INFIDEL" attitude that goes with it.

Anything can be a religion, but if youre religion calls for you to kill other people then its no longer protected in great United States of America.

Your right to be free from religious prosecution ends where my right to live begins.
Average Jo

United States

#38 Aug 4, 2011
But that's the misconception, not all Muslims believe in that!
There was something recently in the news about a cult leader who claimed Christianity and raped kids for his religion. Do you think that all Christians believe in that?
Average Jo

United States

#39 Aug 4, 2011
Even somebody supporting stopping Muslim immigration said that they kill their own. Why? Cause the ones killing are the Al Qaeda/islamicist/hezbollah/ext remists, etc who want the peaceful Muslims to submit to their views and they won't.
Get informed.
To average Joe

Jonesborough, TN

#40 Aug 4, 2011
Get informed? Thats all I do is read and watch the news. Its Muslum doctrine that mandates they kill the infidel.

Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Those are the words of their beloved prophet Muhammad. Is is not the view of an extremist Muslim, it is the view of the Muslim..period.

Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."...again the words of their prophet, words they live by.

Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."

Ishaq:324 "He said,'Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'"

Qur'an:9:14 "Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."

Ishaq:587 "Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."

Now, I went and got myself informed, and I dont much like what I have read so far. Actually there are hundreds of passages from the Qur'an that are not unlike the above passages, but you get the picture Im sure.
Average Jo

United States

#41 Aug 4, 2011
Sorry, mine are more wordy. At least yours are short sweet and to the point of the same thing.

Deuteronomy 13: 13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;  14Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;  15Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. 

Deuteronomy 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

2 Chronicles 15:13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

Those were just a few. They don't sound any better to me. But religion is all about interpretation.

http://www.muslimaccess.com/articles/jihad/ki...
Mo muzzies mo problems

Chicago, IL

#42 Aug 5, 2011
> But that's the misconception, not all Muslims believe in that!

You almost never see the "muslim community" denouncing violent acts of terror by extremists. And its not just the suicide bombers we americans have a problem with. What about the normal muslims who dump acid on girls faces just because they dont like they guy? What about killing women when someone rapes them? What about the muslims who move to other countries like England and institute Sharia muslim laws? That means no more US constitution if that happens in the USA. Muslims can GTFO along with anyone else who doesnt read and understand the declaration of independence and the US constitution. Anyone trying to pass laws that conflict with an American's freedoms are traitors and must be executed under order of the US Constitution.
To average Joe

Jonesborough, TN

#43 Aug 5, 2011
Personally I find religion of almost any sort to be distasteful, that being said Im not here to defend Christianity and I dont enjoy having to do this but here goes:

Deuteronomy 13: 13 is an account of what happened. It doesnt command people to go out and do that, it simply states what occurred and what God supposedly told those particular people to do that that particular city, NOT THE WORLD.

In Deuteronomy 17:3, yes that sounds pretty bad and it IS bad, I cannot defend that. NOW, do Christians do that? Perhaps they use to but they know its wrong. They dont teach that stuff. My point is I dont see Christian people stoning people. On the other hand Muslims do.

Youre right, its all about interpratation. But in MANY places in the Bible it strictly prohibits violence and revenge. Christians follow the teachings of Jesus and the 10 commandments. YOU KNOW THIS!! And thats the difference.

I cant believe you made me do that! The last thing I want to do is sound like Im a holy roller because Im so not. I dont even associate with Christians because its just not my cup of tea.
Average Jo

United States

#44 Aug 6, 2011
I didn't make you do anything. You chose to do that and argue it that way.
Not Ur Serf

AOL

#46 Aug 6, 2011
muzlim beater wrote:
<quoted text>
muzlims are scared of their own,if one speaks out against another blowing himself up in a room full of women and kids he will disappear himself.
I'm sure you muzlim lovers are OK with honor killings too.
What fools you are to compare any religon to islam.
Insanity coincides with the mob or pack mentality because packs give a false sense of security and power tends to corrupt. Plenty of religious and non-religious people of all lifestyles and colors have fallen into the same 'I need a gang to survive this big bad world', mind set. Most Gangs, Mafias and the KKK (all hate groups), still have policies of ‘once a member always a member'. It keeps people in line and provides income to the pack. Political and religious groups have used that system to take and keep land, power and wealth from the rest of society since the beginning of time. This is why we have useless, expensive wars. It would be cheaper if we put our leaders against their leaders and let them fight to the death. World leaders wouldn’t be so ready to invade other countries if their lives were at risk as well.
I'm here to say "F" mob rule. Take your religions that pick a select few to be worthy and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine. Billions have been robbed in the name of Christ by the same sinners we are. Take your political groups and gangs who serve and bow to only those with money and power and burn in h3ll along beside them.
People have suffered at the hands of mobs and gangs far too long simply because those in the mobs were too cowardly, too poor, too weak to survive on their own out here. Meanwhile the rest of us scratch and struggle and do the best we can without help, without tax free organizational funding or personal armies to fight our daily battles for us. We do not have political or social pull or muscle to make threats or stir up trouble where none existed so we can get our way. Still we get by as free individuals assisted by none, answering to none.
There will always some cowardly fool screaming from media outlets saying who I should hate, banish, or kill, all in the name of their God or their country or for their greed. To those fools I say, if you want THOSE PEOPLE out, do it yourself.
Zeig Hiel

AOL

#47 Aug 6, 2011
Thomas wrote:
The stupid liberal left will not be happy until the country is taken over. They seem to cherish the thoughts of having a half mixed negro baby for their daughter. A crack head negro radical for a son in law. I will die first. Where in the hell is your pride, respect and culture. Decent educated Europeean Americans will never submit to this socialist low class way of life!!! Stand uo, be a real man!!!! God Bless!
God Bless????? Just what color do you suppose Jesus might be, being Hebrew and all. You and all of your tea party Nazi kind are the reason people are abandoning churches and their hate filled political affiliations like rats from a sinking ship. You need to go wash your sheets for tonights cross burning and look up the spelling of (Europeean)in case there is a quiz to get into Cracker Heaven. BTW Jesus will be waiting on that apology any day now since you took his fathers name in vain for your hate agenda. You did not mean to bless anyone other than lily white racists like yourself. You are your fathers son alright.
hey

Chicago, IL

#48 Aug 6, 2011
Zeig Hiel wrote:
<quoted text>God Bless????? Just what color do you suppose Jesus might be, being Hebrew and all.
If you think the color of your skin has anything to do with this, then you're the racist. There are white, black, brown and pink Muslims. Did you even read anything that was posted here you bottom feeding Marxist MSNBC clone?
Zeig Hiel wrote:
<quoted text>
You and all of your tea party Nazi kind are the reason people are abandoning churches and their hate filled political affiliations like rats from a sinking ship.
Huh? All christian churches are the same? Or you one of those that only thinks its racist when you're prejudiced against non-whites? Yep!
Zeig Hiel wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to go wash your sheets for tonights cross burning and look up the spelling of (Europeean)in case there is a quiz to get into Cracker Heaven.
Good going, did you mean (European)? lol, stupid liberal faggot. Makes fun of someone for misspelling a word while misspelling that very same word. Liberal hypocrisy is everywhere, you cant get away from it.
Zeig Hiel wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW Jesus will be waiting on that apology any day now since you took his fathers name in vain for your hate agenda. You did not mean to bless anyone other than lily white racists like yourself. You are your fathers son alright.
Brainwashed govt zombie proves once again that its ok to be racist, as long as youre racist against white people.

So lets all learn the lesson here folks,

Making fun of Christians: A OK

Not wanting Muslims to destroy your town with Sharia law: Das Raciss!

I would love to dump someone like Zeig HEil in the middle of downtown Detroit, Washington DC or the south side of Chicago and see how racist they suddenly become. LOL! But what do I know, I'm just a dumb Europeeeeeean! tee hee hee!

Go back to your govt school and learn how to spell.
Zeig Heil

AOL

#49 Aug 6, 2011
hey wrote:
<quoted text>
If you think the color of your skin has anything to do with this, then you're the racist. There are white, black, brown and pink Muslims. Did you even read anything that was posted here you bottom feeding Marxist MSNBC clone?
<quoted text>
Huh? All christian churches are the same? Or you one of those that only thinks its racist when you're prejudiced against non-whites? Yep!
<quoted text>
Good going, did you mean (European)? lol, stupid liberal faggot. Makes fun of someone for misspelling a word while misspelling that very same word. Liberal hypocrisy is everywhere, you cant get away from it.
<quoted text>
Brainwashed govt zombie proves once again that its ok to be racist, as long as youre racist against white people.
So lets all learn the lesson here folks,
Making fun of Christians: A OK
Not wanting Muslims to destroy your town with Sharia law: Das Raciss!
I would love to dump someone like Zeig HEil in the middle of downtown Detroit, Washington DC or the south side of Chicago and see how racist they suddenly become. LOL! But what do I know, I'm just a dumb Europeeeeeean! tee hee hee!
Go back to your govt school and learn how to spell.
Destroy our town with Sharia law? My town is a hot bed of Meth heads, not Islamic radicals. I’m not sure of the Islamic population in your area but I doubt all are radicalized as you. You have to come out of your bunker more often and stop listening to the Reich-Wing isolationist propaganda. Talk to people first before you lump them in with the others.
I'm not making fun of real Christians just the fake ones who want to bomb or someway kill their neighbors and say God Bless afterward.
"Stupid liberal faggot", yes your love of Jesus is shinning bright today. You keep right on pretending you are holy enough to fight against evil while serving it.
Now try very hard and think about this country's freedom of religion laws. How will you go about persecuting another religion? Will you imprison them the way Christians were imprisoned when they spoke out against the Church of England? As I recall people have a right to worship as they please within the boundaries of our laws. Do you really want to change that law? Can you comprehend what destroying freedom of religious expression in this country will mean for all religions?
As much as you would love to harm a group of people, there are laws in place just for people like you or radical Muslims who want to force others to believe and live as they do. No religious law can go against the laws of this nation. We can’t make human sacrifices, we can’t have more than one wife and we can’t marry and father children by children no matter what anyone’s God told them. We do have idiot judges and juries who don’t have clue about our laws that's for sure but it's not my place to take the law into my own hands and become a vigilante because they're idiots. This attack on all Islamics is some groups’ nasty personal agenda, not Gods, not mine, not my country's.
hey

Chicago, IL

#50 Aug 6, 2011
Zeig Heil wrote:
<quoted text> No religious law can go against the laws of this nation.
1st off, you are a stupid liberal faggot with your head up square up your ass, get over it. Jesus tells me so.

2nd, I know you didn't read anything I wrote b/c you did not address your own hypocrisy in being racist while calling others racist. So I will keep this simple for you. There is a legitimate gripe about Muslims building their own communities in the USA because its happening in the UK right now. This is what happens when you allow large Muslim populations to exist in a free nation.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/07/lon...

http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/07/29/53899748.ht...
Zeig Heil

AOL

#51 Aug 6, 2011
hey wrote:
<quoted text>
1st off, you are a stupid liberal faggot with your head up square up your ass, get over it. Jesus tells me so.
2nd, I know you didn't read anything I wrote b/c you did not address your own hypocrisy in being racist while calling others racist. So I will keep this simple for you. There is a legitimate gripe about Muslims building their own communities in the USA because its happening in the UK right now. This is what happens when you allow large Muslim populations to exist in a free nation.
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/07/lon...
http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/07/29/53899748.ht...
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Dude have someone read your own words to you r e a l s l o w. "This is what happens when you allow large Muslim populations to exist in a free nation." The founding fathers apologize to you for making this a FREE NATION. Take your meds and go beddie by now.
Lady Atlas

Reno, NV

#52 Aug 6, 2011
Oh. Great.
Religion and "beliefs".
Just more bullsh!t for humans to fight over.
Down with ALL religion!
Religion is causing mankind to make itself extinct.
GET RID OF ALL RELIGION!
No, better yet, get rid of all humans.
Humans are the ones creating all these problems.
No more humans = no more bullsh!t like racism, [email protected] belief spats, wars, hunger, and poverty.
God/Allah/Buddha/Krishna won't end the world, WE HUMANS will.
OP, thank you for contributing to Earthicide.
We humans love you for helping us die off faster.
Thanks for helping us kill ourselves over USELESS BULLSH!T!
hey

Chicago, IL

#53 Aug 6, 2011
Zeig Heil wrote:
<quoted text>HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Dude have someone read your own words to you r e a l s l o w. "This is what happens when you allow large Muslim populations to exist in a free nation." The founding fathers apologize to you for making this a FREE NATION. Take your meds and go beddie by now.
lol, 2 stupid to know what you're talking about? Gotta be a liberal. You are clueless about american history, what a shocker.

The founding fathers didn't allow just anyone to immigrate here, in the beginning it was just white Europeans. You sound like you were schooled by govt education your whole life. Dumb ass. M a y b e i f I t y p e r e a l s l o w y o u c a n s t o p b e i n g a r a c i s t a m e r i c a h a t e r ?
Average Jo

United States

#54 Aug 6, 2011
If we don't let them in it shows we are scared of them so they have power over us. We let them in and they try to change our freedoms by getting people angry like over the mosque so that those freedoms are changed which is what Islam wants. So those left wing liberals are actually saving your rights by upholding the 1st amendment and not giving into Islam.
Average Jo

United States

#55 Aug 6, 2011
lol, 2 stupid to know what you're talking about? Gotta be a liberal. You are clueless about american history, what a shocker.
The founding fathers didn't allow just anyone to immigrate here, in the beginning it was just white Europeans. You sound like you were schooled by govt education your whole life. Dumb ass. M a y b e i f I t y p e r e a l s l o w y o u c a n s t o p b e i n g a r a c i s t a m e r i c a h a t e r ?

White Europeans made people forcibly migrate here and forcibly moved who was already here to reservations.

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