Revitalization Group Hears How Bristol Made It Happen

Feb 14, 2013 Full story: The Greenville Sun 25

Sun Photo by O.J. Early Mike Sparks and Jean Burnette, of the "Believe in Bristol" campaign, detail Bristol's path to restoring the vitality of their downtown area.

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postmortem

Johnson City, TN

#1 Feb 14, 2013
No one was reported in the story as suggesting the most basic need for ANY downtown Greeneville revitalization. PARKING, duh!
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Greeneville, TN

#2 Feb 15, 2013
Why have parking? At this time, there is nothing to do in downtown. There is plenty of parking it looks like a ghost town because two or three people own all of the buildings and will not lease them out to entrepreneurs. 8 churches are also holding businesses back....
postmortem

Johnson City, TN

#3 Feb 15, 2013
Assuming the truth of your statement, then why is anyone concerned with the state of downtown Greeneville besides cutting what little grass there is?
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Greeneville, TN

#4 Feb 15, 2013
There is huge potential for Greenville to have a " nightlife" if the people who own the buildings downtown would lower the lease cost. Out of the 13 available buildings the lease average is 1200 a month. I think everyone who lives in greeneville is tired of having to drive to Johnson city for a cold beer and good food.

“I've Always Been This Stupid”

Since: May 12

Greeneville TN

#5 Feb 16, 2013
Depot street is perfect for a nightlife strip. Parking is a concern. If you have never been to Hickory NC and seen how they renovated and reinvigorated their downtown it is worth the trip. Plenty of well placed parking, a large grassy area for picnics and playing, large sidewalks, and foot traffic only areas. They have lots of eateries and shopping. It would require some demolishing and rebuilding but the layout is very similar to downtown Greeneville. If you go, hit the taproom for a burger. Amazing!
demo

Macon, GA

#6 Feb 17, 2013
Pretend 2 B Normal wrote:
Depot street is perfect for a nightlife strip. Parking is a concern. If you have never been to Hickory NC and seen how they renovated and reinvigorated their downtown it is worth the trip. Plenty of well placed parking, a large grassy area for picnics and playing, large sidewalks, and foot traffic only areas. They have lots of eateries and shopping. It would require some demolishing and rebuilding but the layout is very similar to downtown Greeneville. If you go, hit the taproom for a burger. Amazing!
so what would you demolish? take your ideas to the revitalizing group; as long as you say it'll bring in money they'll go for it. their only interest is money. those depot st patriot bank owned properties that were burned (demolished), will they work for la vita revita? bring on da money honey.

“I've Always Been This Stupid”

Since: May 12

Greeneville TN

#7 Feb 17, 2013
demo wrote:
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so what would you demolish? take your ideas to the revitalizing group; as long as you say it'll bring in money they'll go for it. their only interest is money. those depot st patriot bank owned properties that were burned (demolished), will they work for la vita revita? bring on da money honey.
I wouldn't even know where to start as far as what buildings to take down. I'm sure there is storm water run off, utility lines, and other things above my head to be considered. I'm sure businesses downstairs and apartments upstairs would bring in a nice amount each month.

Since: Dec 12

Gaffney, SC

#8 Feb 17, 2013
demo wrote:
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so what would you demolish? take your ideas to the revitalizing group; as long as you say it'll bring in money they'll go for it. their only interest is money. those depot st patriot bank owned properties that were burned (demolished), will they work for la vita revita? bring on da money honey.
Lol "La Vita Revita"! I LOVE IT!:) Having done my share of remodeling to old buildings & houses, I speak with authority on the staggering costs to get things presentable much less safe behind the walls with regards to wiring & pipes. Oh yeah, let's not forget lead paint removal & asbestos issues.

Once done right there is nothing finer to be proud of but getting to that point can be draining on one's body & bank account. Now I remember why my body has been as broken down as my bank account in a past life. Lol
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Greeneville, TN

#9 Feb 18, 2013
Revitalization cannot occur if only a small percentage is on board. It can also never happen with downtown owners who are unwilling to lease and having churches too close to serve beverages. I think it can happen if the town as a whole got on board. We have to change our frame of mind from "Walmart and Applebee's good" to "local businesses and downtown good."
demo

United States

#10 Feb 18, 2013
Oh my bad wrote:
Revitalization cannot occur if only a small percentage is on board. It can also never happen with downtown owners who are unwilling to lease and having churches too close to serve beverages. I think it can happen if the town as a whole got on board. We have to change our frame of mind from "Walmart and Applebee's good" to "local businesses and downtown good."
G'ville, like most small towns, sold out long ago to Wal Mart, box stores, and a variety of franchised businesses. Commercial life and the food chain are on the by pass. Our heritage is WalMart, our nostalgia is Depot Street. The real estate deals must have been sweet if you had something to sell along the so called by pass. It's Wal Mart that contributes the door prize (big tv) to the antique appraisal fair. We sell for less, is that G'ville's motto, G'ville's brand? Let's have a story telling festival in the parking lot of a)Lowe's or b)First Baptist. You choose. Tourists would arrive in great quantities of covered wagons to hear the tales.
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Greeneville, TN

#11 Feb 18, 2013
I agree but I believe the young people are ready for change. It's said in the paper that several middle school students were in attendance. I think getting young people I cocked is the key . There is hope.

“I've Always Been This Stupid”

Since: May 12

Greeneville TN

#13 Feb 20, 2013
Think About It wrote:
Don't blame it on Walmart. Knoxville, Asheville, Bristol, Kingsport, and Johnson City all have Walmarts but are not dominated by them. Johnson City has ETSU and Mountain Home. Bristol has BMS. Knoxville has UT and the Tennessee River. Kingsport has Eastman and all the other bad smelling industry. In order to be something you have to have something. Tusculum College doesn't get it, too small and out of sync. Country Music and Nascar are fading so Redneck is going out of style. Someone in this community knows what the next trend will be. The key is to find it build it maximize it and you are on your way. I dream big. Globalization is here to stay whether we like it or not. I see three tall structures placed all over the county. Clothing from around the world, Entertainment from around the world, Cuisine from around the world. The first truly Global City, Greeneville, Tennessee. There are around 200 countries around the world, let them all be represented. Someone has to do it first.
You make good points in the first half of your post. The second half I think is more tongue in cheek. The issue for Greeneville is going to be capacity. Downtown cannot handle much more traffic as it is now. Stop lights get backed up into other stop lights as it is. If you add tourist and shopping traffic to that it will be a nightmare. I've lived in a place that grew to fast for its capacity and it basically kept the locals away.
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Bennettsville, SC

#14 Feb 20, 2013
Think About It wrote:
Don't blame it on Walmart. Knoxville, Asheville, Bristol, Kingsport, and Johnson City all have Walmarts but are not dominated by them. Johnson City has ETSU and Mountain Home. Bristol has BMS. Knoxville has UT and the Tennessee River. Kingsport has Eastman and all the other bad smelling industry. In order to be something you have to have something. Tusculum College doesn't get it, too small and out of sync. Country Music and Nascar are fading so Redneck is going out of style. Someone in this community knows what the next trend will be. The key is to find it build it maximize it and you are on your way. I dream big. Globalization is here to stay whether we like it or not. I see three tall structures placed all over the county. Clothing from around the world, Entertainment from around the world, Cuisine from around the world. The first truly Global City, Greeneville, Tennessee. There are around 200 countries around the world, let them all be represented. Someone has to do it first.
The towns you name are all larger than Greeneville and have a more diverse economic base. All their downtowns have struggled. The small independent businesses that once lined Depot cannot compete against box stores and chain stores on the bypass. The Antiques Mall is excellent. Towns should exist for themselves, not tourists. Streets devoted to special events, as Depot and Main often are, need a day life more than they do a night life. Ordinary daily life matters more than a temporary attraction. Being something ain't the same as having something.....you've been watching too much television.
observer

Johnson City, TN

#16 Feb 20, 2013
Gatlinburg, TN, is very similar to Niagara Falls, U.S. & Canada. Both use local natural attraction as a come-on for tourists. Both sell tourist schlock souvenirs. Both places are best avoided on the weekends. Niagara Falls DOES have casino gambling though. No marriage chapels though. Greeneville PLANS a lot and DOES very little toward growth and prosperity.
dali

Bennettsville, SC

#17 Feb 20, 2013
Think About It wrote:
Don't blame it on Walmart. Knoxville, Asheville, Bristol, Kingsport, and Johnson City all have Walmarts but are not dominated by them. Johnson City has ETSU and Mountain Home. Bristol has BMS. Knoxville has UT and the Tennessee River. Kingsport has Eastman and all the other bad smelling industry. In order to be something you have to have something. Tusculum College doesn't get it, too small and out of sync. Country Music and Nascar are fading so Redneck is going out of style. Someone in this community knows what the next trend will be. The key is to find it build it maximize it and you are on your way. I dream big. Globalization is here to stay whether we like it or not. I see three tall structures placed all over the county. Clothing from around the world, Entertainment from around the world, Cuisine from around the world. The first truly Global City, Greeneville, Tennessee. There are around 200 countries around the world, let them all be represented. Someone has to do it first.
A sort of World's Fair for Greeneville? I'd like it better if Greeneville were not so hateful to "outsiders." I do like the cuisine idea, though....especially if we can get beyond burgers and fries, excess grease and salt and sugar. Casa Guerrero on West Main is pretty good, and seems to be doing well, judging by the parking lot. Entertainment from around the world---go to your Internet.....clothing?....well WalMart and KMart have the globe represented, excepting France and Italy and England. How about Appalachian Casinoland, casinos to be operated by Cherokees and their far flung descendants, with a nice portion of the profits going to county government, of course. Or a 500 fooot tall (or taller) figure of Christ (painted orange for team spirit) to bring in the believer crowd, where they could experience and document miracles on video which would be immediately uploaded for online viewing. Greeneville could be branded as the Lourdes of the South, all the chain motels filled and new ones opening by the minute. Personally I lean toward anything that promotes gambling. I want to see vast GVegas neon signs blinking from the mountain at sunrise, and again at sunset and all through the night. Think of the benefits to education.

“I've Always Been This Stupid”

Since: May 12

Greeneville TN

#18 Feb 20, 2013
I think a six foot five inch statue of Peyton Manning would need to be included so we don't ostracize the state of tennessee's religion.
scrounger

Greeneville, TN

#20 Feb 20, 2013
A good OHV/ATV park will bring lots of tourist money.
critic

Johnson City, TN

#21 Feb 20, 2013
Think About It wrote:
It does not have to be the tourist trade. Silicon Valley was built on the computer age. Marshall North Carolina and down the French Broad River there is a very strong River Rafting business booming. Kentucky has a strong horse trade. It sounds like people do not want the community to change but unless it does people are going to continue to take their money out of town. You cannot force people to spend at home unless you offer them something they want. Actually if you think about it there is something in Greene County which no other county in the state has and that is an expertise in the treatment of the mentally retarded. There are if memory serves me correctly about 7000 people waiting for mental retardation care in Tennessee. A community structured to handle that many would prosper tremendously. It cannot be Greene Valley type care because that is frowned upon but if some private individuals with money were to talk to the state and ICF and work out the details then it could be extremely financially beneficial to the community as a whole. It would require some education but a lot of that work has already been done by the community homes. As in all new enterprises infrastructure would have to be built, more hospitals, Doctors, Nurses, caregivers, etc. It would also require a massive housing investment as well as improvement to all roads and utilities. A super shopping mall as well as more entertainment and cuisine choices would be required. Again it doesn't cost anything to brainstorm it. You build on what you are good at, at one time it was tobacco farming and television manufacturing, in more recent years the quality of care at Greene Valley was considered some of the best in the World and a lot of those people are still around and many of their children and grandchildren have been taught to respect and care for the mentally retarded.
Reflecting on the mind-set of many Greenevillians, does the acronym NIMBY accurately describe likely reaction to your proposition?
Bill H

Greeneville, TN

#24 Feb 21, 2013
I can see it now. Come visit Greeneville, the home of mental retardation.
critic

Johnson City, TN

#25 Feb 21, 2013
Bill H wrote:
I can see it now. Come visit Greeneville, the home of mental retardation.
As I wrote before, the mindset of the average native Greeneville resident!

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