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lost_soul

Jonesborough, TN

#1 Jan 30, 2012
He has been struggling to come off suboxone for years but always relapses because the withdrawals are so bad, he is on day 5 w/o it and it's only getting worse. We have tried sleeping pills but he still can't sleep, he's in constant pain, has no appetite, horrible mood swings the whole 9...I am struggling to make it better for him any way I can but nothing seems to work. I'm starting to get discouraged because he doesn't want to talk/be around anyone (including me), he keeps threatening suicide/to go find a pill although I think it's just the mood swings talking but I can't take much more knowing how easy it would be to go get him a pill and end this but I want to support him and help him get through it I just don't know how/what to do and the things he says/does make it really hard to stay around him let alone help him...I despirately need advice for me and him..any suggestions/comments would be appreciated, thanx
lost_soul

Elizabethton, TN

#2 Jan 30, 2012
Srry this post is about my bf..somehow that part got lost

“Zombie Sickopath”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#3 Jan 30, 2012
Well, ok. Was he on the pills because he was in pain and needed them? Or is he just experiencing withdrawals from not having them now?

If he wants to stop on his own accord, let him go to rehab. The absolute worst thing you can do to someone who does any type of drugs and force them into a rehab when they don't want to quit, it is more of their own choice type of thing.

In your case he looks like he really wants to quit. I don't know how rehab works, as in, how much it costs and stuff, or if it is covered under insurance, but I would seriously look into that.

Constant support is always best. Coach him and assure him he will get through this. I wish you both luck. I'm glad he is doing to right thing.
Rev Jones

Marion, VA

#4 Jan 30, 2012
lost_soul wrote:
He has been struggling to come off suboxone for years but always relapses because the withdrawals are so bad, he is on day 5 w/o it and it's only getting worse. We have tried sleeping pills but he still can't sleep, he's in constant pain, has no appetite, horrible mood swings the whole 9...I am struggling to make it better for him any way I can but nothing seems to work. I'm starting to get discouraged because he doesn't want to talk/be around anyone (including me), he keeps threatening suicide/to go find a pill although I think it's just the mood swings talking but I can't take much more knowing how easy it would be to go get him a pill and end this but I want to support him and help him get through it I just don't know how/what to do and the things he says/does make it really hard to stay around him let alone help him...I despirately need advice for me and him..any suggestions/comments would be appreciated, thanx
YOU need to call the law.

“Zombie Sickopath”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#5 Jan 30, 2012
Oh yes this is a pretty interesting read BTW: http://www.drugaddictiontreatment.com/drug-ad...

This is just MY opinion, unless someone finds proof to back it up or prove me wrong on this. I would think taking drugs for drugs is a bad idea, even if it is just basic drugs like sleeping pills or antihistamines, unless you take them in proper moderation like normal people do. I would also think that it would make you addicted to something else, but over-the-counter things would seem harder to get addicted to, wouldn't it? I could be wrong on this here.

“Zombie Sickopath”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#6 Jan 30, 2012
Rev Jones wrote:
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YOU need to call the law.
That's horrible advice. He's trying to quit, so let's see what happens before we act too rash.
GvilleGrad

Pageland, SC

#7 Jan 30, 2012
If any one is showing signs of depression and manic episodes I was taught in school to report to a health official or police officer so they cannot harm themselves , however I have faith that if you have faith in him / her then with faith and support nothing is impossible.
lost_soul

Elizabethton, TN

#8 Jan 30, 2012
Varyag wrote:
Oh yes this is a pretty interesting read BTW: http://www.drugaddictiontreatment.com/drug-ad...
This is just MY opinion, unless someone finds proof to back it up or prove me wrong on this. I would think taking drugs for drugs is a bad idea, even if it is just basic drugs like sleeping pills or antihistamines, unless you take them in proper moderation like normal people do. I would also think that it would make you addicted to something else, but over-the-counter things would seem harder to get addicted to, wouldn't it? I could be wrong on this here.
That was a VERY interesting read, Thank u. We can't afford rehab and he was in a suboxone program but we can no longer afford the doctor visits he has been getting by finding it off the street but he just got tired of it and decided to quit...again..(mind u this isn't the first time he's tried) but he seems so convinced and is doing the best he has so far...however after reading that I'm wondering if maybe he should continue to find it off the street till we can afford the rehab program..I certainly don't want him to die or relapse when that's what I'm trying to prevent to begin with

“Zombie Sickopath”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#9 Jan 30, 2012
lost_soul wrote:
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That was a VERY interesting read, Thank u. We can't afford rehab and he was in a suboxone program but we can no longer afford the doctor visits he has been getting by finding it off the street but he just got tired of it and decided to quit...again..(mind u this isn't the first time he's tried) but he seems so convinced and is doing the best he has so far...however after reading that I'm wondering if maybe he should continue to find it off the street till we can afford the rehab program..I certainly don't want him to die or relapse when that's what I'm trying to prevent to begin with
Try pulling loans, donations, ask for money, sell some stuff, anything. Don't let him take any more of the stuff.
im sure

Columbus, NC

#10 Jan 30, 2012
Call magmolia ridge in johnson city. He can get a grant abd it will pay for it. Just keep in mind that there is a long waiting list to get in there though. He can also try frontier health in greeneville, tn. They may be able to send him somewhere else or can maybe give you advice on where he could go.
lost_soul

Elizabethton, TN

#11 Jan 30, 2012
Idk about the detox rehab centers but the program he was in he was prescribed suboxone but was being weaned off that seemed to work but we just can't afford it now
sad

Winnsboro, SC

#12 Jan 30, 2012
It's atleast a month waiting list for funded rehabs (such as magnolia ridge) I feel for you all, I've been there.
melissa

Jonesborough, TN

#13 Jan 30, 2012
Does he not have insurance to pay for the suboxone? There are programs out there to pay for this medication if you qualify. Sometimes it pays for a few months and sometimes it is for a year. The clinics around here don't take insurance but it will cover the medications.
im sure

Julian, NC

#14 Jan 30, 2012
I know how you feel though. My bf is on the waiting list. Just waiting on the phone call...it's a mean drug. But be careful cause he can have bad problems cold turkey quiting like that. It's hard cause you are torn in between two worlds. Best of luck....
lost_soul

Elizabethton, TN

#15 Jan 31, 2012
melissa wrote:
Does he not have insurance to pay for the suboxone? There are programs out there to pay for this medication if you qualify. Sometimes it pays for a few months and sometimes it is for a year. The clinics around here don't take insurance but it will cover the medications.
He doesn't have insurance, he just got laid off from his job (which is why we can no longer afford the suboxone) and without being married I can't put him on mine. I will look online for grants or something of the sort that we may be able to get
lost_soul

Elizabethton, TN

#17 Jan 31, 2012
im sure wrote:
I know how you feel though. My bf is on the waiting list. Just waiting on the phone call...it's a mean drug. But be careful cause he can have bad problems cold turkey quiting like that. It's hard cause you are torn in between two worlds. Best of luck....
Ur exactly right! I am torn between two worlds, It's so mentally and emotionally draining. I love him to death but sometimes I feel like I just can't take it anymore, even though I know he can't control it I find myself thinking if he loved me enough he'd just quit struggling with this addiction and put it behind him..its hard to deal with sometimes but I'm doing my best to stand behind him and support him because I want him to succeed.
So far today he has been doing better, his mood has improved since yesterday. I got him a different sleep medicine yesterday (melatonin) and he got about 6 hrs of sleep last night which is more than he's gotten since the last time he used, so I think that helped a lot. Hopefully it will only get better from here..as of this morning he is still determined to stay clean in spite of all the negative things he said yesterday, we're just taking it day by day..
I hope all works out for you and your bf, good luck to both of you!

Since: Jan 12

Greeneville

#18 Jan 31, 2012
lost_soul wrote:
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He doesn't have insurance, he just got laid off from his job (which is why we can no longer afford the suboxone) and without being married I can't put him on mine. I will look online for grants or something of the sort that we may be able to get
This is Melissa. I set up a profile so you can send me an email and I will give you the names of some programs that I have used at our clinic. It takes approx 72 hrs sometimes to get an answer back from them, but it is worth the wait. I hope this will help him and you.
Been There

Paducah, KY

#19 Jan 31, 2012
I have been there and know what he's going through, except I skipped the Suboxone and quit the pills cold turkey. Tell him that since he's made it through these first 5 days, he is through the worst part. If he can just hang on and tough it out for a few more days he will be past the nausea, sweats, and sleeplessness.

I know it's hard and at the time I felt like I would rather die, but once you get through it and get the drugs out of your system, life is so much better and you see everything so much clearer. Nothing worth having comes easy. I believe since has taken this step on his own and has good support from you, he doesn't really need rehab. If he does feel like he would benefit from group sessions, there are several NA meetings in the area per week for free. Just be there for him and know that the mood swings are the withdrawals, not him talking.

The key to staying clean is staying away from the wrong people and situations. Even after the withdrawals are over, the first few months are crucial because the urges and cravings for "just one pill" can be strong..he has to fight those urges. I wish him the best and will be praying for him.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#20 Jan 31, 2012
Have his ass involuntarily commited. It might save his life and maybe yours too. He would be in a lockdown unit.
wtf

Boiling Springs, SC

#21 Jan 31, 2012
Mr Christian wrote:
Have his ass involuntarily commited. It might save his life and maybe yours too. He would be in a lockdown unit.
See kids, you don't have to be atheist or agnostic to be stupid....

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