Separation of Church and State

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#1 Jan 10, 2013
Treaty of Tripoli, 1797. Initiated by then POTUS George Washington. Completed, reviewed, and submitted to the U.S. Senate by succeeding POTUS, John Adams. Ratified by UNANIMOUS vote of the Senate and signed into law by Adams in June, 1797. Article 11 of the Treaty states: 'As the Government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion...it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony...'
DEMOCRALYPSE

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#2 Jan 10, 2013
Now what?

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#3 Jan 10, 2013
Just tweaking the noses of the all-knowing Christian right.
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#4 Jan 10, 2013
That phrase doesn't actually show up in the Treaty of Tripoli.
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet."-Abraham Lincoln
http://www.tektonics.org/qt/tripoli.html

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#5 Jan 10, 2013
You are Welcome wrote:
That phrase doesn't actually show up in the Treaty of Tripoli.
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet."-Abraham Lincoln
http://www.tektonics.org/qt/tripoli.html
Their final conclusion/opinion is that the phrase exists, but the meaning is murky. A ministry's website as a source is just as suspect and possibly more so than any others. I note the website's copy of the text shows Article 11 as stated in my post.
DEMOCRALYPSE

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#6 Jan 10, 2013
Kohlrabi wrote:
<quoted text> Their final conclusion/opinion is that the phrase exists, but the meaning is murky. A ministry's website as a source is just as suspect and possibly more so than any others. I note the website's copy of the text shows Article 11 as stated in my post.
Now what?

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#7 Jan 10, 2013
DEMOCRALYPSE wrote:
<quoted text>Now what?
Endit, probably.
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#8 Jan 11, 2013
"The article as it stands merely says that the government of America is not founded on the Christian religion. This does not mean that the American social/political network was not founded with Christian principles of mind, or that the peoples of America were not Christian to some degree; it merely addresses the government of America. Why?
It may occur to critics that the phrase "founded on the Christian religion" would have a certain meaning to those whose state were "founded on" the Islamic religion -- a "Mehomitan nation". The essential message would be that America was not a Christian theocracy, or a state where the church had political power, as the religious authorities in Muslim nations had power -- which is something no one argues for America."

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#9 Jan 11, 2013
You are Welcome wrote:
"The article as it stands merely says that the government of America is not founded on the Christian religion. This does not mean that the American social/political network was not founded with Christian principles of mind, or that the peoples of America were not Christian to some degree; it merely addresses the government of America. Why?
It may occur to critics that the phrase "founded on the Christian religion" would have a certain meaning to those whose state were "founded on" the Islamic religion -- a "Mehomitan nation". The essential message would be that America was not a Christian theocracy, or a state where the church had political power, as the religious authorities in Muslim nations had power -- which is something no one argues for America."
semantics

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