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Stealth

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South Greene Parent wrote:
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I am not from here, nor did I get my post secondary degree locally, nor do I have the right last name, nor do I have long term local connections. My teaching credentials are excellent, straight A's in college, years of experience and I re-file my application every year. Have not even been able to get an interview, in spite of hoofing it to meet every principal hiring. If you check teaching credentials of those who are employed here, they all have degrees from local colleges. About one in 50 do not, but having met a few of them, I learned they have lots of family here or moved away to go to school and then came back. I have talked to other teachers from other places who have relocated to Greene County and they are in the same boat. Not trying to whine, or degrade the school system, it's just the way things are in Greene County.
I bet that your "better than you" attitude has quite a bit to do with you not being hired. You obviously are the kind of person who intends to push their agenda (no matter what it is at the time ) to anyone you meet. It's awful funny that you so desperately want to work in a school system where you would not be supported ( that's what your posts have told me at least ). So, I call sour grapes on your posts.

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#45
Dec 3, 2012
 
I believe in spanking a child and not in a beating the hell out of them manner. But I will not allow the school system to spank my child. I have wrote on their plan if it comes to the point they feel they need to be spanked call me. I will be in there. While I was in school I saw too many times where teachers took it to the extreme. I believe in disciplining my children and correcting them. But not giving permission for someone to have the right to beat them under a guise.
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SPARE THE TAX ROD SPOIL THE WEALTHY CONSERVATIVE and have less money for teachers to keep a eye on the students .

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Chuckey, Tennessee

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Dec 3, 2012
 
Stealth wrote:
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I bet that your "better than you" attitude has quite a bit to do with you not being hired. You obviously are the kind of person who intends to push their agenda (no matter what it is at the time ) to anyone you meet. It's awful funny that you so desperately want to work in a school system where you would not be supported ( that's what your posts have told me at least ). So, I call sour grapes on your posts.
It doesn't have anything to do with attitude because she has not been interviewed.
think about it

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Dec 3, 2012
 
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I honestly don't know where everyone is getting this idea that kids would be so much better if there was spanking in school. I think back to when I was in school and there were plenty of spankings (in front of everyone- not just in the principals office). I personally was never spanked at school and it was certainly a deterrent from misbehaving for me. However, there were plenty of kids who got spanked regularly but continued with their regular antics of classroom disrupting, even including fistfights. Oh yeah, an we even prayed in school every morning too (at least in those early years). Those kids who were spanked and prayed when prompted did not magically turn in to little angels, however. Many wound up in jail or in graves from drug overdoses. Sorry, but that theory is just wrong that mandated school prayer and spanking cures all. In fact, I'll go so far as to bet that if you went down to the jail right now and asked how many were spanked as children you'd likely get a 99% were spanked. I don't have a problem with parents spanking their kids if done appropriately( not beating), but when you give that kind of power to a teacher, there can be problems (for both the kid and the teacher). I guess my feelings about this stem from what I saw day to day as a student in a certain third grade classroom at Hal Henard Elementary School with a certain male teacher who liked to fondle boys and much delighted in spanking them for such things as not opening a book up exactly in the middle each time. I remember him spanking a little girl so hard one time for that same thing that she was hyperventilating, snot was going all over the place, and I was so terrified of that man.
Do you think kids as a whole are better behaved now than they used to be?
South Greene Parent

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Dec 3, 2012
 
Stealth wrote:
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I bet that your "better than you" attitude has quite a bit to do with you not being hired. You obviously are the kind of person who intends to push their agenda (no matter what it is at the time ) to anyone you meet. It's awful funny that you so desperately want to work in a school system where you would not be supported ( that's what your posts have told me at least ). So, I call sour grapes on your posts.
Call sour grapes if you wish. The topic of this thread is discipline issues in Greene County schools. I have seen first hand how classroom management and school discipline are not working here. I simply have had experience with other methods that seem to work better. Ofcourse, I would rather be making a difference in a classroom than just talking about these issues as an outsider, but I have accepted that it is not meant to be, atleast not here. I advocate for my own children while they attend local schools and will be ecstatic when they start college. I have moved on career-wise. I might not ever be able to teach here, but regardless there needs to be some kind of change for the better. I do not feel I am better than anyone else, I just bring something new and different to the table.

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Call sour grapes if you wish. The topic of this thread is discipline issues in Greene County schools. I have seen first hand how classroom management and school discipline are not working here. I simply have had experience with other methods that seem to work better. Ofcourse, I would rather be making a difference in a classroom than just talking about these issues as an outsider, but I have accepted that it is not meant to be, atleast not here. I advocate for my own children while they attend local schools and will be ecstatic when they start college. I have moved on career-wise. I might not ever be able to teach here, but regardless there needs to be some kind of change for the better. I do not feel I am better than anyone else, I just bring something new and different to the table.
I apologize for the impolite words I wrote previously. I don't believe you intended to insult the locals and you truly want to see improvements in our schools. If all parents showed concern about discipline like you, it would make a difference and things would change for the better. Most parents have no idea what goes on in the classroom and unfortunately many parents do not care. Even though you have moved on with a new career, you are passionate about making a difference in our schools. It is my opinion that you should continue to submit applications each year and update your references. The right reference could at least get you an interview.
South Greene Parent

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I apologize for the impolite words I wrote previously. I don't believe you intended to insult the locals and you truly want to see improvements in our schools. If all parents showed concern about discipline like you, it would make a difference and things would change for the better. Most parents have no idea what goes on in the classroom and unfortunately many parents do not care. Even though you have moved on with a new career, you are passionate about making a difference in our schools. It is my opinion that you should continue to submit applications each year and update your references. The right reference could at least get you an interview.
I appreciate your sentiments, and even though I have moved on, I do hope to eventually teach again or atleast advocate for children in some way. I have kept all of my teaching materials and still volunteer in the local schools. I don't always like what I see, but I have a heart for teaching and enjoy seeing the sense of pride and accomplishment children have when they succeessfully master a skill they once thought too hard.
As a parent I did not always feel welcome in my child's classroom, but I did not care. I hope that more parents will be homeroom moms and dads. It would be good for our children and for teachers and administrators.

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Nothing wrong with corporal punishment...I certainly got my share as a kid. Then when my dad found out, I'd usually catch it again at home as well. But one thing it does teach you, there are consequences to bad behavior and a lack of responsibility. Society is too soft on kids these days and that's why they grow up with this "protective" mentality. Would you rather not discipline the child while they're young and impressionable or run the risk of the court system disciplining them later on?
Oliver

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Discipline is good...gene pool is lacking...

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With all the places we now have cameras,why not in our childrens classrooms? It certainly isn't to protect the children, so who is being protected?
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back when the teachers could date the students the students knew who was boss and you say that was the good old days whats wrong with you conservatives .
this is stupid

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Dec 6, 2012
 
Need discipline
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Jan 19, 2013
 
South Greene Parent wrote:
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Yeah, lets beat children. That's the answer?
Somehow I managed to teach in a school district that was allowed to paddle, but never did. We did not have the disclipline problems that I see in Greene County. As a relative newbie to this backwards place, I see children who are too entitled, whose athletic ability often outweighs any bad behavior and whose family ties keep them from being punished.
Bottom line, administrators here are too focused on looking for saggy pants and piercings, or watching school bus footage to try and catch the f-word, to focus on really disruptive behavior. When there is real disruption, they don't know what to do except beat children or send them of reform school so they can fail for the year. Somehow I don't think either one of those alternatives is going to produce a well rounded citizen in our community. And as for the teachers,the motto seems to be if anyone misbehaves, punish the whole class, or even the whole grade level. I mean really, establish a firm discpline plan at the beginning of the year and then use it. Praise publicly, discipline privately. It works.
I personally never spanked my children and they turned out just fine, not entitled, not trouble makers, A/B students.
In my home state, a parent spanking a child often resulted in a call to social services, usually made by the child getting spanked. So, if I can't/don't spank my child, I certainly am not going to allow some random teacher or principal to do it.
. I bet you go to church every Sunday and claim to believe the bible too...huh?
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Jan 19, 2013
 
South Greene Parent wrote:
Trust me, my ideas are new for Greene County Schools. So new, I guess I need to be run out of town?
How many days have you spent in Greene County classrooms making first hand observations? Watching teachers plan vacations on the school's computer during class time, texting, working on their paper so they can get their master's degree, painting their fingernails. Talking to administrators who say, you can't discipline him/her, because his parents head up PTO or the Athletic Booster Club. Letting the athletes slide on bad grades/behavior because the school's football team is more important than anything else. The school sytem has plenty of problems, most of which stem from everyone knowing too much of everyone's else's business and bending the rules to accomodate friends.
Maybe some new blood, God forbid, someone who wasn't born and raised here would be good for Greene County Schools.
You are so correct! I applaud you! Everything you said is true. Keep on trying to get your foot in the door I would love to see and hear your ideas!

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Jan 20, 2013
 
South Greene parent, while some of what you say is valid, I think you are extremely broad in your assumptions that ALL of the MANY classrooms that you've witnessed first-hand, which are likely those attended by your own well adjusted, perfectly mannered children, are cesspools of ignorant trouble-making spawn of careless, neglectful parents, are being taught by backward, unqualified, uncaring, entitled-by-virtue-of-knowing- somebody teachers. I agree with the poster who hit the nail on the head when he/she stated that your point is lost due to your seemingly arrogant, bitter demeanor. You mention your straight A college scores as evidence of your superiority, as though there are no others in existence. Lose the attitude and you may find an audience more accepting of your stance on corporal punishment. You are painting ALL the students, teachers, and parents of Greene County with the same broad brush and that is simply irresponsible and wrong, and would not be welcomed by citizens of any county in any state in the country, particularly when it comes from a relative newcomer to the area. Nobody nowhere appreciates that sort of generalized, unwarranted, unsubstantiated criticism. Even those of us who are also honors college graduates, with offspring who are likewise, who live in your same community, and who do not agree with the concept of corporal punishment, bristle at the message you try to convey due to the manner in which it is delivered by you.

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Jan 20, 2013
 
MystDefy wrote:
South Greene parent, while some of what you say is valid, I think you are extremely broad in your assumptions that ALL of the MANY classrooms that you've witnessed first-hand, which are likely those attended by your own well adjusted, perfectly mannered children, are cesspools of ignorant trouble-making spawn of careless, neglectful parents, are being taught by backward, unqualified, uncaring, entitled-by-virtue-of-knowing- somebody teachers. I agree with the poster who hit the nail on the head when he/she stated that your point is lost due to your seemingly arrogant, bitter demeanor. You mention your straight A college scores as evidence of your superiority, as though there are no others in existence. Lose the attitude and you may find an audience more accepting of your stance on corporal punishment. You are painting ALL the students, teachers, and parents of Greene County with the same broad brush and that is simply irresponsible and wrong, and would not be welcomed by citizens of any county in any state in the country, particularly when it comes from a relative newcomer to the area. Nobody nowhere appreciates that sort of generalized, unwarranted, unsubstantiated criticism. Even those of us who are also honors college graduates, with offspring who are likewise, who live in your same community, and who do not agree with the concept of corporal punishment, bristle at the message you try to convey due to the manner in which it is delivered by you.
Exactly! Great post.
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Jan 20, 2013
 
MystDefy wrote:
South Greene parent, while some of what you say is valid, I think you are extremely broad in your assumptions that ALL of the MANY classrooms that you've witnessed first-hand, which are likely those attended by your own well adjusted, perfectly mannered children, are cesspools of ignorant trouble-making spawn of careless, neglectful parents, are being taught by backward, unqualified, uncaring, entitled-by-virtue-of-knowing- somebody teachers. I agree with the poster who hit the nail on the head when he/she stated that your point is lost due to your seemingly arrogant, bitter demeanor. You mention your straight A college scores as evidence of your superiority, as though there are no others in existence. Lose the attitude and you may find an audience more accepting of your stance on corporal punishment. You are painting ALL the students, teachers, and parents of Greene County with the same broad brush and that is simply irresponsible and wrong, and would not be welcomed by citizens of any county in any state in the country, particularly when it comes from a relative newcomer to the area. Nobody nowhere appreciates that sort of generalized, unwarranted, unsubstantiated criticism. Even those of us who are also honors college graduates, with offspring who are likewise, who live in your same community, and who do not agree with the concept of corporal punishment, bristle at the message you try to convey due to the manner in which it is delivered by you.
Sorry, but my experience in Greene County classrooms is not as limited as you assume it to be. I have been a short term and long term substitute teacher in most of the the K-8 schools in this county for more than five years. Also, I don't appreciate you putting vile words in my mouth. You will not find me calling Greene County a cesspool or calling anyone ignorant trouble-making spawn. Those are your colorful observations, not mine. Secondly, by referencing my grades, experience, etc. I am not trying to appear superior, I am just pointing out that the credentials most school systems use to interview and hire teachers are not part of the formula in Greene County. If they were, surely I would have been able to get one interview over so many years. Thirdly, I am well aware that arrogance will never get me a teaching job, I can assure you that I have been nothing but demure and compliant when dealing with school personnel here.
More to the point of the whole topic is that school discipline is not very effective in this county. As usual, topix turns personal, and meanders off course. As stated earlier, I have experienced other school systems who simply do a better job without corporal punishment.

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Jan 20, 2013
 
MystDefy wrote:
South Greene parent, while some of what you say is valid, I think you are extremely broad in your assumptions that ALL of the MANY classrooms that you've witnessed first-hand, which are likely those attended by your own well adjusted, perfectly mannered children, are cesspools of ignorant trouble-making spawn of careless, neglectful parents, are being taught by backward, unqualified, uncaring, entitled-by-virtue-of-knowing- somebody teachers. I agree with the poster who hit the nail on the head when he/she stated that your point is lost due to your seemingly arrogant, bitter demeanor. You mention your straight A college scores as evidence of your superiority, as though there are no others in existence. Lose the attitude and you may find an audience more accepting of your stance on corporal punishment. You are painting ALL the students, teachers, and parents of Greene County with the same broad brush and that is simply irresponsible and wrong, and would not be welcomed by citizens of any county in any state in the country, particularly when it comes from a relative newcomer to the area. Nobody nowhere appreciates that sort of generalized, unwarranted, unsubstantiated criticism. Even those of us who are also honors college graduates, with offspring who are likewise, who live in your same community, and who do not agree with the concept of corporal punishment, bristle at the message you try to convey due to the manner in which it is delivered by you.
Fantastic post babe!:)

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