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old skool

Greeneville, TN

#84 Oct 13, 2013
Also a Teacher wrote:
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While I do believe that cooperative groups aren't the best fit for every subject, I also believe that we as adults, and as teachers, cling to the kinds of teaching that worked for us as learners. The kind of teaching you describe worked well for you, which is why you were successful and probably why you are a teacher today. I know I had a very set idea on how to teach before I had children of my own. My children were hands on learners who did not like dry text with no interaction, catchy music with learning lyrics, or pneumonic devices that I found helpful as a learner. At first, I did not really know what to do to help them. Then, as I took classes in education, I found new ways to hold their interest and teach them. Approaching my ESE students with lessons that encompass visual, auditory and kinesthetic components has proven most successful. The traditional way of learning that Greene County schools uses could be expanded to reach more students if lessons encompassed the three main ways of learning. If using different kinds of teaching techniques makes that happen, we as teachers, should be employing them. I feel that many of the "old school" teachers locally don't think there are any new techniques in teaching worth learning or using in their classrooms. I disagree.
Kids could learn the same way we did...parents have changed. No more are they requiring kids to learn. We as teachers should not have to stand on our heads,juggle 4 balls with our feet, all while teaching. I don't care what learning style my kids have, to be honest...they are EXPECTED to do what the teacher says. PERIOD. They are at school to learn, not be entertained. If they learn at school, I'll take them somewhere enetertaining after school. And ultimately, they can get productive jobs to pay for their entertainment.
Also a Teacher

Johnson City, TN

#85 Oct 13, 2013
old skool wrote:
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Kids could learn the same way we did...parents have changed. No more are they requiring kids to learn. We as teachers should not have to stand on our heads,juggle 4 balls with our feet, all while teaching. I don't care what learning style my kids have, to be honest...they are EXPECTED to do what the teacher says. PERIOD. They are at school to learn, not be entertained. If they learn at school, I'll take them somewhere enetertaining after school. And ultimately, they can get productive jobs to pay for their entertainment.
Wow! And that, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with the education system in Greene County. Such a close-minded view is not serving students, it is self-serving. But you as a teacher you should never stop learning (and that does not mean getting your masters degree so you can make more money, but not changing your teaching style), never stop trying new things...all in the name of reaching more students and helping them be successful learners. To do less is to not do your job.
preferred method

Greeneville, TN

#86 Oct 13, 2013
Also a Teacher wrote:
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While I do believe that cooperative groups aren't the best fit for every subject, I also believe that we as adults, and as teachers, cling to the kinds of teaching that worked for us as learners. The kind of teaching you describe worked well for you, which is why you were successful and probably why you are a teacher today. I know I had a very set idea on how to teach before I had children of my own. My children were hands on learners who did not like dry text with no interaction, catchy music with learning lyrics, or pneumonic devices that I found helpful as a learner. At first, I did not really know what to do to help them. Then, as I took classes in education, I found new ways to hold their interest and teach them. Approaching my ESE students with lessons that encompass visual, auditory and kinesthetic components has proven most successful. The traditional way of learning that Greene County schools uses could be expanded to reach more students if lessons encompassed the three main ways of learning. If using different kinds of teaching techniques makes that happen, we as teachers, should be employing them. I feel that many of the "old school" teachers locally don't think there are any new techniques in teaching worth learning or using in their classrooms. I disagree.
I strongly disagree and that is why, after three years of public school, my two children are now being homeschooled.
all over

Greeneville, TN

#87 Oct 14, 2013
Ignorant and uneducated teachers produce ignorant and uneducated students. I know teachers who are on the path of trying to learn enough to pass a test. They have friends who are cheering them on and feeling so sad that they just can't pass their test!! These people, I certainly would not call them teachers, are in the classrooms all over the place.
crazy

Greeneville, TN

#88 Oct 14, 2013
all over wrote:
Ignorant and uneducated teachers produce ignorant and uneducated students. I know teachers who are on the path of trying to learn enough to pass a test. They have friends who are cheering them on and feeling so sad that they just can't pass their test!! These people, I certainly would not call them teachers, are in the classrooms all over the place.
I say ignorant and uneducated and 'couldn't give a crap'parents produce ignorant and uneducated students. My kids will learn and be productive whether teachers are competent or not. I am an informed parent who WILL make that happen regardless. You think it's bad that a kid gets through school and cannot read? What's even sadder than that is the fact that PARENTS don't know the kids can't read...AND DON"T CARE. RAISE YOUR OWN KIDS AND QUIT EXPECTING SOMEONE ELSE TO DO YOUR JOB. Teachers are ineffective (even good ones) without supportive parents.
alternative

Greeneville, TN

#89 Oct 14, 2013
crazy wrote:
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I say ignorant and uneducated and 'couldn't give a crap'parents produce ignorant and uneducated students. My kids will learn and be productive whether teachers are competent or not. I am an informed parent who WILL make that happen regardless. You think it's bad that a kid gets through school and cannot read? What's even sadder than that is the fact that PARENTS don't know the kids can't read...AND DON"T CARE. RAISE YOUR OWN KIDS AND QUIT EXPECTING SOMEONE ELSE TO DO YOUR JOB. Teachers are ineffective (even good ones) without supportive parents.
The home is definitely an area where children learn on a daily basis. HOWEVER, although me and my husband are educated, we depend on teachers heavily -- are we not suppose to be in a position to do that? Past sixth grade, math was a lost cause for both of us. I did not master in math -- nor do I want to. One of our children needed extra help in this area -- which we had to pay for out of our pocket. My children have had good and bad teachers and will no doubt continue to have good and bad teachers --- sadly enough. I am disturbed to learn that many of our teachers already in the classroom are working on getting licensed. That's just not right. Would you go sit in a dentist chair,look around the room and find no license and allow him or her to carry on with the task at hand? I know I would not. College is designed to help an individual choose a career and then master the knowledge needed to succeed. Learning how to APPLY what you should have mastered in college is what should happen on the job. If teachers are going to attempt to say that parents should be in a position to fill in all the voided area where teachers are lacking, why send them to a state school? Let me have my tax dollars and I am sure me and my husband could easily find an alternative that would be much better at preparing our children for success. Homeschooling done correctly runs circles around state schools. I believe teachers should stop making excuses for what they don't know and never learned in college.
You Got That Right

United States

#90 Oct 14, 2013
all over wrote:
Ignorant and uneducated teachers produce ignorant and uneducated students. I know teachers who are on the path of trying to learn enough to pass a test. They have friends who are cheering them on and feeling so sad that they just can't pass their test!! These people, I certainly would not call them teachers, are in the classrooms all over the place.
Sounds like you have done your homework on this one!
amen and preach on

Greeneville, TN

#91 Oct 14, 2013
alternative wrote:
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The home is definitely an area where children learn on a daily basis. HOWEVER, although me and my husband are educated, we depend on teachers heavily -- are we not suppose to be in a position to do that? Past sixth grade, math was a lost cause for both of us. I did not master in math -- nor do I want to. One of our children needed extra help in this area -- which we had to pay for out of our pocket. My children have had good and bad teachers and will no doubt continue to have good and bad teachers --- sadly enough. I am disturbed to learn that many of our teachers already in the classroom are working on getting licensed. That's just not right. Would you go sit in a dentist chair,look around the room and find no license and allow him or her to carry on with the task at hand? I know I would not. College is designed to help an individual choose a career and then master the knowledge needed to succeed. Learning how to APPLY what you should have mastered in college is what should happen on the job. If teachers are going to attempt to say that parents should be in a position to fill in all the voided area where teachers are lacking, why send them to a state school? Let me have my tax dollars and I am sure me and my husband could easily find an alternative that would be much better at preparing our children for success. Homeschooling done correctly runs circles around state schools. I believe teachers should stop making excuses for what they don't know and never learned in college.
Amen and preach on! Very well stated.
Just me

Greeneville, TN

#92 Oct 15, 2013
Licensing changes were made by Haslam to allow teachers to teach whatever praxis tests they could pass. He is also promoting Teach For America which will allow people in the classroom with only 5 weeks training. Keep voting these Tea Party lunatics in and see what else he can dumb down.
Voter

Greeneville, TN

#93 Oct 16, 2013
Sure because Haslam is a TEA Party guy (hope you catch the sarcasm).
Poster

Concord, NC

#94 Oct 16, 2013
Note - Sarcasm Intended yet if sarcasm is hard to interpret among tea party members.Tea party is not the same as old republicans and the democrats are not the original party either. It is best to just chalk it up and move forward, the GOV does not care about the people , so what is the point in argueing or defending a member ? Unless, one has noted a passion for one side. I personally don't get into politics.

People are going to do what they are going to do, you cannot change their views you can only change your mindset and think positive thoughts.
Poster

Concord, NC

#95 Oct 16, 2013
That was totally off topic , back on topic - It's only gym class people it's not hard to say give me 10 pushups and ruin some laps !
dumbstupiduneduc atedfool

Greeneville, TN

#96 Oct 16, 2013
Just me wrote:
Licensing changes were made by Haslam to allow teachers to teach whatever praxis tests they could pass. He is also promoting Teach For America which will allow people in the classroom with only 5 weeks training. Keep voting these Tea Party lunatics in and see what else he can dumb down.
Dumb? Stupid? Uneducated? Mindless fool? Yes, these are just some of the words that came to mind when I read your post. Honey you need to do your homework. Teachers started getting in the classrooms without proper licensing in the 80's! This practice was supposedly started because there was a shortage of teachers in some demographic areas. Just like welfare, this practice has grown enormously since the 80's and has now become a way to "go around" getting a proper license by studying hard and having your license WHEN YOU GRADUATE! Now all the directors use these licensing abuseive system to get their friends jobs. Just take a look who has ended up in the central Office. Lamoms has proved nothing during her short, short career, yet she is now a supervisor! I am not about to put my kid in the public schools until we get someone who cares in charge of hiring and firing. I am presently working two jobs and my husband is doing the same so we can send our kid to school where all the teachers are truly highly qualified.
Kaptain poopy.

Greeneville, TN

#97 Oct 16, 2013
Cannot Be True wrote:
<quoted text>While I appreciate your advice and I certainly will do that if need be even though I certainly cannot afford it, no possible curriculum could prepare someone who's getting a P.E. degree to teach some of the much harder subjects. That's just stupid. I do appreciate your input though but I hope to get a call back from someone who can tell me how this happened. From what you are saying it can be true. If it is true then it sounds like everyone should just take P.E. and then take a test and teach something else. Can you say crazy!
It's called a teaching degree. Not a p.e. Degree. Jesus Christ you need to go back to school.
dumbstupiduneduc atedfool

Greeneville, TN

#98 Oct 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="Kaptain poopy."]<quoted text>
It's called a teaching degree. Not a p.e. Degree. Jesus Christ you need to go back to school.[/QUOTE]

Are you serious? If I tell someone I have a teaching degree, there next question would be "what did you get your degree in?". And your answer would be, you guessed it, whatever your degree was in. For example, English Degree (or if you prefer a degree in English). I continue to be thankful we didn't choose a state school.
Kaptain poopy.

Greeneville, TN

#99 Oct 16, 2013
dumbstupiduneducatedfool wrote:
[QUOTE who="Kaptain poopy."]<quoted text>
It's called a teaching degree. Not a p.e. Degree. Jesus Christ you need to go back to school. "

Are you serious? If I tell someone I have a teaching degree, there next question would be "what did you get your degree in?". And your answer would be, you guessed it, whatever your degree was in. For example, English Degree (or if you prefer a degree in English). I continue to be thankful we didn't choose a state school.
A P.E. Teacher usually has more then one degree. Obviously. Every P.E. Teacher I've ever had taught health or some form of science. If you have a teaching degree you can teach more then one subject. And yes teachers have to take tests and pass them to become a teacher.
lying

Greeneville, TN

#100 Oct 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="Kaptain poopy."]<quoted text>
A P.E. Teacher usually has more then one degree. Obviously. Every P.E. Teacher I've ever had taught health or some form of science. If you have a teaching degree you can teach more then one subject. And yes teachers have to take tests and pass them to become a teacher.[/QUOTE]

You are lying to the public. Yes they do have to pass a test to keep jobs but they do not have to pass all the tests to begin teaching. Insane!
tis true

Greeneville, TN

#101 Oct 17, 2013
around these parts the first thing they want to know is who are you akin to cause that way they can evaluate who you know and if they want to promote you to a job.
so and so

Greeneville, TN

#102 Oct 17, 2013
Ever have your child come home and tell you that when they asked a question the teacher told the kid to ask so and so in the class. This has happened more than once.

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