cant be

Greeneville, TN

#42 Oct 6, 2013
Kyle wrote:
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Did it ever stop to think that maybe your kid is just not too smart and maybe THIS is why he is unable to keep up with the other students?
When other parents tell you their child is having trouble with the same teacher - can't be just the kid's fault. If your kid has done well up and until they get to a certain teacher - well pretty soon things add up to an uneducated teacher.
P E Teacher

Peru

#43 Oct 6, 2013
count on it wrote:
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What a load of crap! If I find out my child is being taught by a dumb P.E. teacher you can count on a call from these parents.
Why? Just because someone majored in Physical Education doesn't mean they're "dumb". That's dumb.
Teaching as Second Career

Johnson City, TN

#44 Oct 6, 2013
dumb educators wrote:
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This is really getting sad. My kid is in the 8th grade and has already had six, yes I said SIX ignorant educators. I believe that is what you like to call yourselves. A lot of what is being said could sure explain why all the dumb teachers. Hey let's all just forget college. I don't give a flip if you know how to use all the technology in the world. My kids have all that stuff and a computer to boot. I want them to learn reading, writing and arithmetic.
If your child is in any Greene County school, the qualifications of the teacher they have has very little to do with what they know about teaching. It has everything to do with their last name, whether they went to a local elementary, secondary or post-secondary school, and most importantly, whether they are willing to coach a sport. No one with a college degree, no matter their major, falls into the "dumb" category. And, not everyone with a college degree in education is a good teacher.
As for your comment on technology, in normal classrooms it is used as a tool to enhance learning in the areas of reading, writing and arithmetic. It is not used as a learning aid in very many local classes, but will be essential to your child/teen as they transition into the working world. Are your children learning how to create a spread sheet, power point, or solve a linear equation on their own with all that technology you brag that they have at home or are they more likely watching youtube, taking selfies and texting their friends? Most likely the latter, unless they have a decent teacher that requires them to use technology for learning, not just gaming and recreation.
Just so we're clear my children have had some ignorant teachers as well, most of whom had their masters degree in education.
cant be

Greeneville, TN

#45 Oct 6, 2013
seriously wrote:
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Then help your child and stop making excusrs
Are you for real? I was under the impression that teaching was the teacher's job. I guess I should do my own plumbing, roofing, electrical work, doctoring too? Wait, I can't because I am a mechanic.
Government Cheese

Greeneville, TN

#46 Oct 6, 2013
P E Teacher wrote:
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Why? Just because someone majored in Physical Education doesn't mean they're "dumb". That's dumb.
How's the weather in Peru coach?
seriously

Kingsport, TN

#47 Oct 6, 2013
cant be wrote:
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Are you for real? I was under the impression that teaching was the teacher's job. I guess I should do my own plumbing, roofing, electrical work, doctoring too? Wait, It can't because I am a mechanic.
You are a mechanic?....then fix your Childs lackluster grades....babam.....enough said
Calm Down

United States

#48 Oct 7, 2013
Uh Oh wrote:
Somebody needs a med check...
CG?
the truth

Greeneville, TN

#49 Oct 7, 2013
Teaching as Second Career wrote:
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If your child is in any Greene County school, the qualifications of the teacher they have has very little to do with what they know about teaching. It has everything to do with their last name, whether they went to a local elementary, secondary or post-secondary school, and most importantly, whether they are willing to coach a sport. No one with a college degree, no matter their major, falls into the "dumb" category. And, not everyone with a college degree in education is a good teacher.
As for your comment on technology, in normal classrooms it is used as a tool to enhance learning in the areas of reading, writing and arithmetic. It is not used as a learning aid in very many local classes, but will be essential to your child/teen as they transition into the working world. Are your children learning how to create a spread sheet, power point, or solve a linear equation on their own with all that technology you brag that they have at home or are they more likely watching youtube, taking selfies and texting their friends? Most likely the latter, unless they have a decent teacher that requires them to use technology for learning, not just gaming and recreation.
Just so we're clear my children have had some ignorant teachers as well, most of whom had their masters degree in education.
I have yet to meet a PE teacher who wasn't a little dumb. Sorry, maybe I should say slow. Would that make you feel better? All I used my electronic tools for was to look up answers while the PE teacher, and other teachers in other classes, looked away. Yes, keep your shirt on it happens all the time and these teachers know it. I am in my last year of college and my major is in, you guessed it, PE. Why, because I couldn't handle any other harder class. I actually tried, but they were just too hard. I once did a paper on teaching and I know for a fact that Greene County is abundantly blessed with teachers in the classrooms who got their license in the position they were hired for "after and while on the job". IN other words you have a great many teachers who have "not" past certain tests but are given, by the director, several years to "try" and pass tests so they can keep on teaching. Now ask me how I know all this, you guessed it, I have a shoe in and since no one will ever know who I am, I really don't care. It is who you know and that goes on everywhere. So it really will not matter if there are others who have passed all their test when I graduate cause I have already been promised a job. I am not going to tell you which school system either.
All the directors take care of their buddies. If you are in, then good, if you are out, then too bad.
the truth

Greeneville, TN

#50 Oct 7, 2013
seriously wrote:
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You are a mechanic?....then fix your Childs lackluster grades....babam.....enough said
You certainly have something loose upstairs. If their pappie is a mechanic, I am betting he is wanting more for his kid and that is why he knows the teacher doesn't know their stuff. I may have a shoe in but I know I won't blame others when I can't teach what I should know. I won't blame a parent. A lot of teachers need to be very kind when they realize they have bit off more than they can chew. I am going to teach PE and I can assure I will not try to teach another class because I wouldn't know what I was teaching. A lot of teachers do not care, they just want a job. This may sound a little two-face, but what I am saying I will gladly take the PE job but if I had to teach english or math or something else, I wouldn't even attempt that. That would not be fair to the kids or their parents.
silly parents

Greeneville, TN

#51 Oct 7, 2013
Government Cheese wrote:
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Wow, I was trying to be polite, have you never heard of constructive criticism? Three run on sentences? I thought they were just three separate statements to get my thoughts across. Forgive me, my majors were biology and chemistry, so my English skills are a bit lax. I am truly sorry if your feelings were stepped on. Maybe this forum is not for you.
Maybe I was a little quick to snap at you. However, you're statement was far from polite. You may have intended for it to be that way, but to me it came off very differently. Plus, I am an English teacher, and as such, I took great offense to you suggesting my skills were hurting my students. I still cannot find much of what you were referring to, but that's beside the point. Plus, it gets a little old listening to the same garbage about teachers. All the assumptions about PE teachers are just plain unfounded in most cases. Yes, there are some uneducated educators...doesn't that happen in every field?? But to say that all PE teachers are is ridiculous. Guess it got to me for a minute. Sorry. I love my job and love my students.
silly parents

Greeneville, TN

#52 Oct 7, 2013
the truth wrote:
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You certainly have something loose upstairs. If their pappie is a mechanic, I am betting he is wanting more for his kid and that is why he knows the teacher doesn't know their stuff. I may have a shoe in but I know I won't blame others when I can't teach what I should know. I won't blame a parent. A lot of teachers need to be very kind when they realize they have bit off more than they can chew. I am going to teach PE and I can assure I will not try to teach another class because I wouldn't know what I was teaching. A lot of teachers do not care, they just want a job. This may sound a little two-face, but what I am saying I will gladly take the PE job but if I had to teach english or math or something else, I wouldn't even attempt that. That would not be fair to the kids or their parents.
What makes you think parents want a dumb PE teacher teaching their kids PE? As a parent, I don't want you with my kids in any teacher role. So, go ahead and do us a favor and get another career. Your attitude is not noble. It's judgmental and stereotypical and very limited. You honestly mean to tell me you've not found many smart PE teachers in your classes, in your work in the schools, in your career as a student? Maybe you were too dumb to realize a smart person when you met one. You yourself stated that you are lacking in the smarts department, so what qualifies you to rate others' abilities??? I have yet to meet many uneducated PE teachers...as a matter of fact, many taught a different subject area successfully before moving to PE.
Out of State Teacher

Johnson City, TN

#53 Oct 7, 2013
the truth wrote:
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I have yet to meet a PE teacher who wasn't a little dumb. Sorry, maybe I should say slow. Would that make you feel better? All I used my electronic tools for was to look up answers while the PE teacher, and other teachers in other classes, looked away. Yes, keep your shirt on it happens all the time and these teachers know it. I am in my last year of college and my major is in, you guessed it, PE. Why, because I couldn't handle any other harder class. I actually tried, but they were just too hard. I once did a paper on teaching and I know for a fact that Greene County is abundantly blessed with teachers in the classrooms who got their license in the position they were hired for "after and while on the job". IN other words you have a great many teachers who have "not" past certain tests but are given, by the director, several years to "try" and pass tests so they can keep on teaching. Now ask me how I know all this, you guessed it, I have a shoe in and since no one will ever know who I am, I really don't care. It is who you know and that goes on everywhere. So it really will not matter if there are others who have passed all their test when I graduate cause I have already been promised a job. I am not going to tell you which school system either.
All the directors take care of their buddies. If you are in, then good, if you are out, then too bad.
Thanks for the truth. It is good to know that I am not crazy or under-qualified. I have good credentials and plenty of experience and have been trying for years to get into the Greene County School system. Somehow all these brand new local teachers with no experience keep getting jobs, while I can't get a call back. I am in the process of leaving this backwards pit. You people can live in your blissful ignorance.
know

Greeneville, TN

#54 Oct 7, 2013
Brace yourselves, it is not just the P.E. teachers that are teaching subjects they are not qualified to teach. Teaching around here is not about what you know, it is about who you know.
madness

Greeneville, TN

#55 Oct 8, 2013
Heard on the news today how far behind we are in education. Now there is a surprise. My child is also being taught by a Physical Ed. major. When will this madness end.
Wow

Greeneville, TN

#56 Oct 9, 2013
You act like you don't want to name the school, so what end of the county?

My kids had a teacher who was a history major but taught them different subjects. He has taught just about every subject and he is a good teacher and always the favorite. He goes the extra mile and even helps kids with homework from other classes.
going on

Greeneville, TN

#57 Oct 9, 2013
Wow wrote:
You act like you don't want to name the school, so what end of the county?
My kids had a teacher who was a history major but taught them different subjects. He has taught just about every subject and he is a good teacher and always the favorite. He goes the extra mile and even helps kids with homework from other classes.
In days gone by it might have been okay for someone to teach multiple classes but this day and time with all the specializing in everything, we certainly should have teachers in the classroom who are teaching what they are specialized to teach. In other words they should be teaching what they studied in college! I expect someday this whole thing will come to a head when more parents find out about what is going on. There is no way on earth you are going to sell people that someone who studied one thing and then gets hired to teach another thing is good for the children. For example, let's just continue picking on the P. E. teachers for a minute. A teacher has gone to college for four years and studied P. E. and gets their P. E. degree. We all know these type jobs do not open up much. Like no one gives up P. E. jobs once they get the job. So what you have is people graduating with P. E. degrees and who need a job. That is what is happening and you can bet they know someone.
Seriously

Kingsport, TN

#58 Oct 10, 2013
the truth wrote:
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You certainly have something loose upstairs. If their pappie is a mechanic, I am betting he is wanting more for his kid and that is why he knows the teacher doesn't know their stuff. I may have a shoe in but I know I won't blame others when I can't teach what I should know. I won't blame a parent. A lot of teachers need to be very kind when they realize they have bit off more than they can chew. I am going to teach PE and I can assure I will not try to teach another clas
s because I wouldn't know what I was teaching. A lot of teachers do not care, they just want a job. This may sound a little two-face, but what I am saying I will gladly take the PE job but if I had to teach english or math or something else, I wouldn't even attempt that. That would not be fair to the kids or their parents.
. You sound so uneducated on the matter. Teachers have a standard to teach and lessons much follow. They cannot be experts in everything they teach. They have to provide comfort to the kids who see drug abuse. They listen when kids need to talk about the divorce. They comfort a child during a time of loss. Many times these people u all bash are the ones placing money in lunch accounts so kids can eat. They buy school supplies or clothes for the kids. Before u bash the teacher just insure the parent is doing their job. Life is going to happen and the kids must adjust. They need to be self motivated. They need a parent who helps them achieve more and not blames others for their lackluster performance.
But

United States

#59 Oct 10, 2013
Seriously wrote:
<quoted text>. You sound so uneducated on the matter. Teachers have a standard to teach and lessons much follow. They cannot be experts in everything they teach. They have to provide comfort to the kids who see drug abuse. They listen when kids need to talk about the divorce. They comfort a child during a time of loss. Many times these people u all bash are the ones placing money in lunch accounts so kids can eat. They buy school supplies or clothes for the kids. Before u bash the teacher just insure the parent is doing their job. Life is going to happen and the kids must adjust. They need to be self motivated. They need a parent who helps them achieve more and not blames others for their lackluster performance.
How sweet, and somewhat accurate. But understanding and kindness won't help the students make good grades or competitive scores on the ACT and other major assessments. Test scores are the major concern of many school administrators. Oh wait -- test scores AND winning ballgames.
homeschooling

Greeneville, TN

#60 Oct 10, 2013
Seriously wrote:
<quoted text>. You sound so uneducated on the matter. Teachers have a standard to teach and lessons much follow. They cannot be experts in everything they teach. They have to provide comfort to the kids who see drug abuse. They listen when kids need to talk about the divorce. They comfort a child during a time of loss. Many times these people u all bash are the ones placing money in lunch accounts so kids can eat. They buy school supplies or clothes for the kids. Before u bash the teacher just insure the parent is doing their job. Life is going to happen and the kids must adjust. They need to be self motivated. They need a parent who helps them achieve more and not blames others for their lackluster performance.
First and foremost teachers must be intelligent and learned in the subject matter to which they are hired to teach. If the parents and kids are expected to do all the work, then maybe homeschooling should be universal.
well are they

Greeneville, TN

#61 Oct 10, 2013
Seriously wrote:
<quoted text>. You sound so uneducated on the matter. Teachers have a standard to teach and lessons much follow. They cannot be experts in everything they teach. They have to provide comfort to the kids who see drug abuse. They listen when kids need to talk about the divorce. They comfort a child during a time of loss. Many times these people u all bash are the ones placing money in lunch accounts so kids can eat. They buy school supplies or clothes for the kids. Before u bash the teacher just insure the parent is doing their job. Life is going to happen and the kids must adjust. They need to be self motivated. They need a parent who helps them achieve more and not blames others for their lackluster performance.
You make teachers sound more like babysitters than teachers.
"They cannot be experts in everything they teach." Say What?
Yes they should be. Our director of schools favorite words are that Greene County teachers are so highly qualified.

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