Obama LIED.. there ARE DEATH PANELS.....

Obama LIED.. there ARE DEATH PANELS.....

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just thinking

United States

#1 Nov 30, 2013
and they are being used in the VA System.

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Since: Jun 12

BUFFALO, NY

#2 Nov 30, 2013
just thinking wrote:
and they are being used in the VA System.
And here I thought another word for DEATH PANEL was pre-Affordable Care Act insurance companies.
Ted Nugent

Johnson City, TN

#3 Nov 30, 2013
Capitalism, free enterprise and competition is what makes the cost of healthcare go down and the quality go up. Not government.

Obamacare will raise the costs and the quality will decline because Obama is not a capitalist but a crony politicking communist.
Really

Greeneville, TN

#4 Dec 1, 2013
Ted Nugent wrote:
Capitalism, free enterprise and competition is what makes the cost of healthcare go down and the quality go up. Not government.
Obamacare will raise the costs and the quality will decline because Obama is not a capitalist but a crony politicking communist.
If that is true then the costs of healthcare should have been lowering year after year instead of rising, shouldn't they? All of those solutions that you listed have been in affect for years, haven't they?
Chico

Ringgold, GA

#5 Dec 1, 2013
Really wrote:
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If that is true then the costs of healthcare should have been lowering year after year instead of rising, shouldn't they? All of those solutions that you listed have been in affect for years, haven't they?
The main reason healthcare costs have skyrocketed over the years is due to many frivolous lawsuits. This was not addressed in obamacare. Healthcare costs will skyrocket even faster under the Affordable Care Act.
smoke house

Fayetteville, NC

#6 Dec 1, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>If that is true then the costs of healthcare should have been lowering year after year instead of rising, shouldn't they? All of those solutions that you listed have been in affect for years, haven't they?
Let the government handle health care! They've done a great job with the postal service, social security, and Medicare!
Chico

Ringgold, GA

#7 Dec 1, 2013
smoke house wrote:
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Let the government handle health care! They've done a great job with the postal service, social security, and Medicare!
Medicare has just a mere $100 billion plus a year in fraud which the government can't control and is paid for by the tax payer. No private industry can sustain losses like that, only the government can because there's no accountability. Currently most of the obamacare enrollees are for medicade.
Taxrelief

Kingsport, TN

#8 Dec 1, 2013
1 million dollars to keep me alive 5 more days they have to be some control on spending as if the HMOs didn't do it before .
Obamadidntcare

Kingsport, TN

#9 Dec 1, 2013
How did it happen Haliburton money talks . You and I would have meet our God .
Really

Greeneville, TN

#10 Dec 1, 2013
Chico wrote:
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The main reason healthcare costs have skyrocketed over the years is due to many frivolous lawsuits. This was not addressed in obamacare. Healthcare costs will skyrocket even faster under the Affordable Care Act.
That's B.S. Lawsuits aren't the main cause of higher costs. Providers choosing to charge whatever they wish to. It's more like it's being monopolized.

AAA

Greeneville, TN

#11 Dec 2, 2013
Really wrote:
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That's B.S. Lawsuits aren't the main cause of higher costs. Providers choosing to charge whatever they wish to. It's more like it's being monopolized.
Lawsuits are an issue, but you are also correct. The healthcare industry was being monopolized. The funny thing is though it was happening because of government regulation. Did you realize that you can not sell health insurance across state lines. Meaning the government would not let you buy a cheaper health insurance policy that was sold in Kentucky if you lived in Tennessee. So basically what happened is the government came in through regulation and cut off about 98% of the competition, and then wondered why prices are so high. Then with their awe inspiring knowledge, they said that this isn't working. They claimed what the healthcare industry really needs is more regulation. Which raised the cost of health insurance, dropped people off their current insurance, and is actually on path to making more people uninsured then there was before this whole thing started.

So to sum up we are spending 1.8 trillion dollars over the next 10 years, according to a CBO report in May 2013 (I promise you the actual cost will be more.) This was done to make insurance cheaper and to help reduce the number of uninsured. So far that 1.8 trillion dollars has bought us higher insurance costs and without a major improvement in enrollment an increase in uninsured people (excluding 18 - 26 year olds that can continue to mooch off their parents.) This is what happens when people vote based on what will the government give me or do for me. When progressives (people who think big government is the answer on either side of the aisle Republican or Democrat) tell you to lean forward into the new century or times what they really mean is bend over.
arteriosusLeaks

Kingsport, TN

#12 Dec 3, 2013
1 million dollars for 5 more days would that make sense to anyone . We all will die sooner or later
Just thinking

Greenwood, SC

#13 Dec 4, 2013
Obama bragged about getting good at killing ..... was he talking about death panels???

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