Simple Cost Effective Way to Boost Greeneville Economy

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Chico Rodriguez

Charlotte, NC

#1 Jan 25, 2013
1) Shut Bypass Down and Divert Traffic right through the middle of downtown Greeneville. NOTE: This is the way it was before bypass. More traffic attracts the businesses to downtown and downtown gets revitalized through private enterprise who want the traffic flow. This is a big reason downtown Greeneville is dead. When traffic is diverted then property values go up commercial and residential. The commercial property owners make money to spend and residents sale houses for more because people want to live close to the action.

2) Take the Bypass and turn it into an airport runway to accommodate large planes. Dwight Eisenhower had the plan to make Interstate System capable of landing military aircraft. The Germans use autobahn to land C130s.

The businesses already on Bypass will service airport human traffic. Property owners on bypass won't lose out because of airport. More businesses attracted to large airport in addition to already having truck businesses and rail business near bypass to service airport. Make the airport an International Foreign Trade Zone. Duty free import/export. Make airfares cheaper and more competitive than surrounding airports.
The Man

Greeneville, TN

#2 Jan 25, 2013
Chico Rodriguez wrote:
1) Shut Bypass Down and Divert Traffic right through the middle of downtown Greeneville. NOTE: This is the way it was before bypass. More traffic attracts the businesses to downtown and downtown gets revitalized through private enterprise who want the traffic flow. This is a big reason downtown Greeneville is dead. When traffic is diverted then property values go up commercial and residential. The commercial property owners make money to spend and residents sale houses for more because people want to live close to the action.
2) Take the Bypass and turn it into an airport runway to accommodate large planes. Dwight Eisenhower had the plan to make Interstate System capable of landing military aircraft. The Germans use autobahn to land C130s.
The businesses already on Bypass will service airport human traffic. Property owners on bypass won't lose out because of airport. More businesses attracted to large airport in addition to already having truck businesses and rail business near bypass to service airport. Make the airport an International Foreign Trade Zone. Duty free import/export. Make airfares cheaper and more competitive than surrounding airports.
Put down the crack pipe Chico.
Chico Rodriguez

Charlotte, NC

#3 Jan 25, 2013
Explain why?
The Man

Greeneville, TN

#4 Jan 25, 2013
Chico Rodriguez wrote:
Explain why?
1)You are advocating putting 4 lanes of 11-E traffic onto a 2 lane road designed how many years ago? This road (11-E Business)has a bunch of redlights and other streets crossing it with no redlights, from which nobody could ever get out in that amount of traffic. That means that all the traffic now on 11-E Business and all the traffic that is now on the 4 lane 11-E Bypass, onto an old 2 lane road through the middle of town. I would love to see an ambulance or fire truck go down this street at about the time that GHS lets out.

2) If you could establish a big international airport on the actual paved bypass, what road would the traffic use to get to the businesses that are there now. Would a Fiat 500 have to share pavement with a 747? Do you drop a huge plane out of the sky among all those businesses? I mean, do you land between Wendy's and Big Lots? What about all the power lines and red lights that are there now?
camp creek

United States

#5 Jan 25, 2013
The best thing to make Greeneville's economy grow is to buy local. Buy at small businesses, those are the people who live in Greeneville. That money stays in Greeneville. It is not sent back to corporate headquarters to pay some CEO big salary. When people start buying local shops will grow and have more services or products that customers want to buy.
Local

Greeneville, TN

#6 Jan 25, 2013
camp creek wrote:
The best thing to make Greeneville's economy grow is to buy local. Buy at small businesses, those are the people who live in Greeneville. That money stays in Greeneville. It is not sent back to corporate headquarters to pay some CEO big salary. When people start buying local shops will grow and have more services or products that customers want to buy.
That would be too easy. Greene Countians love to get a deal. If they think that they can save a dollar at a big chain store, they will do it, even if it means that the profit is spent in Georgia, and fewer locals have jobs.
Chico Rodriguez

Greeneville, TN

#7 Jan 25, 2013
The Man wrote:
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1)You are advocating putting 4 lanes of 11-E traffic onto a 2 lane road designed how many years ago? This road (11-E Business)has a bunch of redlights and other streets crossing it with no redlights, from which nobody could ever get out in that amount of traffic. That means that all the traffic now on 11-E Business and all the traffic that is now on the 4 lane 11-E Bypass, onto an old 2 lane road through the middle of town. I would love to see an ambulance or fire truck go down this street at about the time that GHS lets out.
2) If you could establish a big international airport on the actual paved bypass, what road would the traffic use to get to the businesses that are there now. Would a Fiat 500 have to share pavement with a 747? Do you drop a huge plane out of the sky among all those businesses? I mean, do you land between Wendy's and Big Lots? What about all the power lines and red lights that are there now?
In reply to your comment regarding diverting 4 lanes of traffic into a two lane, the easy solution is to make the current two lane roads into two lanes going one direction (one way). You turn the current two lanes streets into one big round-about. For example: main street McKee street, McKee street to Bernard, Bernard to tusculum blvd, tusculum blvd back to main street....all going in counter-clockwise direction or vice versa. Church street could be an intermediary street in the middle of the loop. In essence, a distorted figure 8 from an aerial perspective. Of course it could be enlarged with time. All other streets would be arteries of the loop. The lights can be taken down to help with traffic flow. That's easier than putting them up and more cost effective than buying them to control traffic.

In terms of runway, the longest commercial runway in the world is 13780 feet (2.6 miles and in Saudi Arabia) and the shortest commercial runway in the world is 1,312 feet (roughly 1/5 of a mile in British Virgin Islands. Tricities airport runway is 4423 feet long (not a mile) and 75 feet wide (probably not as wide as current bypass 4 lanes) and certainly airplane wings are not going to reach from big lots all the way to Wendy's). Regardless, Atlanta (busiest in the world has multiple runways ranging from 9000 feet to 12000 feet. Chattanooga International had 2 runways 7400 feet long x 150 feet wide and another that is 5575 feet long x 150 feet wide.

What all this means is that on the 11E it would not be hard to have a runway over a mile long and at least 150 feet wide. The infrastructure is already there for the most part. I'm not saying lights would not have to be taken down, but I don't believe you would necessarily have to move buildings. The advantage we have is that we have the railroad right there., and certainly more room to expand than TriCities Airport. I also think we are more centrally located and I also believe we could undermine the Jefferson County Plan to build a Huge Industrial Sight to attract a huge business.
peter pan

Greeneville, TN

#8 Jan 25, 2013
Chico Rodriguez wrote:
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In reply to your comment regarding diverting 4 lanes of traffic into a two lane, the easy solution is to make the current two lane roads into two lanes going one direction (one way). You turn the current two lanes streets into one big round-about. For example: main street McKee street, McKee street to Bernard, Bernard to tusculum blvd, tusculum blvd back to main street....all going in counter-clockwise direction or vice versa. Church street could be an intermediary street in the middle of the loop. In essence, a distorted figure 8 from an aerial perspective. Of course it could be enlarged with time. All other streets would be arteries of the loop. The lights can be taken down to help with traffic flow. That's easier than putting them up and more cost effective than buying them to control traffic.
In terms of runway, the longest commercial runway in the world is 13780 feet (2.6 miles and in Saudi Arabia) and the shortest commercial runway in the world is 1,312 feet (roughly 1/5 of a mile in British Virgin Islands. Tricities airport runway is 4423 feet long (not a mile) and 75 feet wide (probably not as wide as current bypass 4 lanes) and certainly airplane wings are not going to reach from big lots all the way to Wendy's). Regardless, Atlanta (busiest in the world has multiple runways ranging from 9000 feet to 12000 feet. Chattanooga International had 2 runways 7400 feet long x 150 feet wide and another that is 5575 feet long x 150 feet wide.
What all this means is that on the 11E it would not be hard to have a runway over a mile long and at least 150 feet wide. The infrastructure is already there for the most part. I'm not saying lights would not have to be taken down, but I don't believe you would necessarily have to move buildings. The advantage we have is that we have the railroad right there., and certainly more room to expand than TriCities Airport. I also think we are more centrally located and I also believe we could undermine the Jefferson County Plan to build a Huge Industrial Sight to attract a huge business.
Are you stupid?
Chico Rodriguez

Greeneville, TN

#9 Jan 25, 2013
peter pan wrote:
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Are you stupid?
no. are you?
The Man

Greeneville, TN

#10 Jan 25, 2013
Chico Rodriguez wrote:
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In reply to your comment regarding diverting 4 lanes of traffic into a two lane, the easy solution is to make the current two lane roads into two lanes going one direction (one way). You turn the current two lanes streets into one big round-about. For example: main street McKee street, McKee street to Bernard, Bernard to tusculum blvd, tusculum blvd back to main street....all going in counter-clockwise direction or vice versa. Church street could be an intermediary street in the middle of the loop. In essence, a distorted figure 8 from an aerial perspective. Of course it could be enlarged with time. All other streets would be arteries of the loop. The lights can be taken down to help with traffic flow. That's easier than putting them up and more cost effective than buying them to control traffic.
In terms of runway, the longest commercial runway in the world is 13780 feet (2.6 miles and in Saudi Arabia) and the shortest commercial runway in the world is 1,312 feet (roughly 1/5 of a mile in British Virgin Islands. Tricities airport runway is 4423 feet long (not a mile) and 75 feet wide (probably not as wide as current bypass 4 lanes) and certainly airplane wings are not going to reach from big lots all the way to Wendy's). Regardless, Atlanta (busiest in the world has multiple runways ranging from 9000 feet to 12000 feet. Chattanooga International had 2 runways 7400 feet long x 150 feet wide and another that is 5575 feet long x 150 feet wide.
What all this means is that on the 11E it would not be hard to have a runway over a mile long and at least 150 feet wide. The infrastructure is already there for the most part. I'm not saying lights would not have to be taken down, but I don't believe you would necessarily have to move buildings. The advantage we have is that we have the railroad right there., and certainly more room to expand than TriCities Airport. I also think we are more centrally located and I also believe we could undermine the Jefferson County Plan to build a Huge Industrial Sight to attract a huge business.
I will give you credit for thinking out of the box. Where is the bypass flat and straight for over a mile? If you were feeding all of the northbound and southbound 11-E traffic into one lane going each direction at the Pizza Hut, it would be interesting to say the least.
wantsum

Elizabethton, TN

#11 Jan 25, 2013
Chico...how much for a nickle bag of that shit?
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hmmmmmmmm

Nashville, TN

#12 Jan 25, 2013
why would anybody shop dowtown, no places to park, call niswonger and let him capitalize by building a parking garage, then maybe he could rent more hotel rooms
brandy grooms

Denver, NC

#13 Jan 25, 2013
Get a new county mayor that has got a brain.
Get a new county sheriff that does not want to spend every tax dollar. Not too mention the county is dead last in state for crime being solved.
That would be a great start.

“is your friend ”

Since: Mar 12

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#14 Jan 25, 2013
There's nothing downtown.

Since: Dec 12

United States

#15 Jan 25, 2013
@ hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:

There is already a parking garage for the hotel. It is adjacent to the lower end, close to Church St.

The town is practically a Ghost Town now. I think we should have the few existing businesses play it up & sell souvenirs to the few tourists passing through. I gues the rest of us can play along & i dont know...pretend to be ghosts. Lol lol

(That Chico guy said it would be the best cig EVVVVVVVER....I told him I didn't smoke but I'm kinda glad I tried it.)LOL
Chico Rodriguez

Greeneville, TN

#16 Jan 25, 2013
Well, I suppose you can nay say all day and bitch about who is in power, high on meth, who's banging who, local high school gossip, who got put in jail,which chicks are skanks, and who is the hottest dumbass at the local factory, but you and I both know none of it is funny anymore after the millionth time it has been posted.

If you want to bitch and gripe then go to the commission meetings, protest, and raise a little hell and get in the paper since that's your obvious talent.

On the other side of it, you could attempt comedy based on your pathetic wisecracks that have no bearing on a damn thing other than you needing attention, but I'm sure it would be a short-lived career. You need new material. Aside from all that, I know I can kick your ass, beat you down in front of your mother, father, and your boyfriend and I don't even have to know who you are to possess that knowledge.
Chico Rodriguez

Greeneville, TN

#17 Jan 25, 2013
The Man wrote:
<quoted text>I will give you credit for thinking out of the box. Where is the bypass flat and straight for over a mile? If you were feeding all of the northbound and southbound 11-E traffic into one lane going each direction at the Pizza Hut, it would be interesting to say the least.
I actually checked it out. You have over a mile from Ford Dealership past Vet clinic. You have over a mile, past the bridge ( from where you get off Bypass to go into town), but before you get to health department. You have over a mile from right pas skating ring to before the bridge where railroad runs underneath (near cancuns). Of course you have a straight away shot near industrial park as well.

Just to add to previous comment about lights and powerlines, you'd have to bury them anyway.
wantsum

Elizabethton, TN

#18 Jan 25, 2013
Chico.....smoke another one! You need to mellow
The Man

Greeneville, TN

#19 Jan 25, 2013
Chico Rodriguez wrote:
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I actually checked it out. You have over a mile from Ford Dealership past Vet clinic. You have over a mile, past the bridge ( from where you get off Bypass to go into town), but before you get to health department. You have over a mile from right pas skating ring to before the bridge where railroad runs underneath (near cancuns). Of course you have a straight away shot near industrial park as well.
Just to add to previous comment about lights and powerlines, you'd have to bury them anyway.
How many runways, and where would the areas to taxi and turn around the big planes be? How about the bridges over the Baileyton Road and Snapps Ferry?
Chico Rodriguez

Greeneville, TN

#20 Jan 25, 2013
The Man wrote:
<quoted text>I will give you credit for thinking out of the box. Where is the bypass flat and straight for over a mile? If you were feeding all of the northbound and southbound 11-E traffic into one lane going each direction at the Pizza Hut, it would be interesting to say the least.
Also, if you drive down Tusculum Blvd you will also find you essentially have a road big enough to accomodate 3 lanes of traffic going one way in the loop theory. Same way with main street, bernard, etc. In thinking of costs, minor adjustments is what I had in mind, but it obviously it would require a feasibility study.

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