Let them eat cake

Smyrna, TN

#106 Apr 30, 2012
Not Racist wrote:
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It is hard for parents to tell their children you can't take your phone to school it is against the rules. Then they come home saying Mrs. XXXXX or Mr. XXXXX always has their phone out during class texting. So the kids thinks they can sneak their phones to school and get by with it like teachers and staff do.
So do you follow the rules??? NOT ALLOWED should apply to the teachers and staff too!!!!!!!!! RULES are RULES Everyone should have to follow them!!!! Remember Adults we lead by EXAMPLE, if teacher have their cell phones at school and have them out in class (which is breaking the rule), it just shows children they can break the rule too.
The teachers and staff are adults. The students are not. Why should children not have rules to go by? That is the problem with the little spoiled, misbehaved bastards now. They don't need a freakin phone to grow to their ear.

Since: Nov 11

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#107 Apr 30, 2012
Let them eat cake wrote:
<quoted text>The teachers and staff are adults. The students are not. Why should children not have rules to go by? That is the problem with the little spoiled, misbehaved bastards now. They don't need a freakin phone to grow to their ear.
So you are saying That it is ok that Adults don't follow rules too? Maybe that is why are jails are over crowded, because adults think they are approve rules and don't have to following them. Rules are just for kids. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
Let them eat cake

Fort Campbell, TN

#108 Apr 30, 2012
Vickernism wrote:
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So you are saying That it is ok that Adults don't follow rules too? Maybe that is why are jails are over crowded, because adults think they are approve rules and don't have to following them. Rules are just for kids. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
The grammar in your second sentence is the stupidest thing that I have ever heard. You obviously stayed on your cell phone during English class, instead of learning to construct a coherent sentence.
wow

Johnson City, TN

#109 Apr 30, 2012
Point is they dont teach or punish kids anymore they use this to raise funds. Just like everything else its a money thing and that is it. It teach a kid nothing to take it then tell them 20 bucks and you can have it back sounds more like extortion. Than guidance.
parent

Antioch, TN

#110 Apr 30, 2012
Where does the money go?

Since: Nov 11

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#111 May 1, 2012
Let them eat cake wrote:
<quoted text>The grammar in your second sentence is the stupidest thing that I have ever heard. You obviously stayed on your cell phone during English class, instead of learning to construct a coherent sentence.
Sorry I didn't have cell phone when I was English class. Let me correct my grammer for you. Maybe that is why OUR jails are over crowded. Hope that helps you to understand better.

But I was taught that all rules applied to everyone Adults and Kids. And that as an adult you lead by example. Remember you can't teach by "do as I say". You teach better by do as I do, so make sure you are doing correctly to lead the younger generations correctly.
LOL--Funny

Dayton, TN

#112 May 6, 2012
They can't keep the phones or charge you to get them back. It's a case of stolen property. It may be against school policy but it isn't against the law. Taking someone's property and refusing to return it is theft. Simply call the police and file charges against the teacher or the principal who has it. Life is more complicated than "you don't need it at school". Many children don't go home after school, they go to after school care or other places like sports practice etc. Parents often times are to busy to come sit around and wait for practice to end. Personally, I think the school system and policies are pathetic. I would be more worried about that idiot who was the principal at Davy Crockett who had a celebrated "GAY DAY" on a specific day of each week.
Justwrong

Boiling Springs, SC

#113 May 6, 2012
Just wrong on so many levels. What can be done about this?

Since: Mar 11

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#114 May 6, 2012
First off the phone is personal property and that is considered theft. Secondly in this day and age yes there is a need for students to have cell phones in schools. Besides the fact that the office can't be bothered with taking messages or fail to deliver the message or even the correct message. And all the busy schedules and schedule changes. Further more in light of all these school shootings. What would have happened then if these children had listened to the rules and not brought their cell phones? They can save a life! GPS tracking to find a lost/stolen child. No they should not disturb class. But if they have no sound and are not being played with and disturbing class. They can be a great attribute and peace of mind for a parent.
Huh

Cookeville, TN

#115 Jul 19, 2012
outraged wrote:
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Or video the the principle and teachers not doing there job, just like Linda Edwards and her teachers weren't any where to be found at Glenwood Elementary School when that poor kid was bullied on the play ground, all that profanity and those really small kids on the play ground. I guess you teachers don't want the parents to see what you really do huh? You all can go to H3ll, that rule is unconstitutional, BTW I saw both uncut videos on facebook, no body would have ever known what goes on at school if it hadn't have surfaced.
This is the first I'm hearing about the incident you described. I'm not disputing or even commenting on it other than saying that I had not heard about that. Interesting, though.

I cannot say for certain why the School Board passed this rule or where the money in question goes, but as a teacher I can share some incidences I have seen involving cell phones at school. Kids are clever, and they are very good at texting without looking. Telling kids they "can't have their phones out" isn't good enough. I've seen instances of bullying, arranging fights, calling friends to pick them up after school without parental permission, and some very risque pictures taken in the restrooms and then circulated through the school. If kids have phones at school, many will be tempted to use them. Not all kids will engage in these negative behaviors and it is awful to have to punish all kids for the behavior of few, but you cannot make a rule for a few and allow everyone else to ignore it. From where I stand, it's as much for a kid's protection as it is anyone else's. The school must also follow privacy laws, and taking and posting videos of other students in embarrassing situation (like asking a question that everyone finds funny, struggling to understand a lesson, falling, etc.) is in violation of those laws, and the school can be held responsible. I'm not even going to discuss the instances of cheating in the classroom using cells.

The "no cell phone" rule has lots of benefits for everyone, but I have to agree with the other posts that kids will survive without a cell at school. My school's policy is that kids can have them for sports practices and after school, but they must "keep them out of sight during school". If teachers see them during the school day, we are required to take them because it is against the school's policy. Sure, parents get angry about it and I understand their point that it's personal property; however, the school is not their personal property, and people and possessions can be checked if security is an issue or concern. Taking pictures of someone in the restroom or arranging a fight to beat another kid to death would fall under an issue or concern! If you can't have it, then you can't have it. It's all about teaching our kids responsible behaviors and respecting/following the rules.

Since: Mar 11

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#116 Jul 19, 2012
Huh wrote:
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This is the first I'm hearing about the incident you described. I'm not disputing or even commenting on it other than saying that I had not heard about that. Interesting, though.
I cannot say for certain why the School Board passed this rule or where the money in question goes, but as a teacher I can share some incidences I have seen involving cell phones at school. Kids are clever, and they are very good at texting without looking. Telling kids they "can't have their phones out" isn't good enough. I've seen instances of bullying, arranging fights, calling friends to pick them up after school without parental permission, and some very risque pictures taken in the restrooms and then circulated through the school. If kids have phones at school, many will be tempted to use them. Not all kids will engage in these negative behaviors and it is awful to have to punish all kids for the behavior of few, but you cannot make a rule for a few and allow everyone else to ignore it. From where I stand, it's as much for a kid's protection as it is anyone else's. The school must also follow privacy laws, and taking and posting videos of other students in embarrassing situation (like asking a question that everyone finds funny, struggling to understand a lesson, falling, etc.) is in violation of those laws, and the school can be held responsible. I'm not even going to discuss the instances of cheating in the classroom using cells.
The "no cell phone" rule has lots of benefits for everyone, but I have to agree with the other posts that kids will survive without a cell at school. My school's policy is that kids can have them for sports practices and after school, but they must "keep them out of sight during school". If teachers see them during the school day, we are required to take them because it is against the school's policy. Sure, parents get angry about it and I understand their point that it's personal property; however, the school is not their personal property, and people and possessions can be checked if security is an issue or concern. Taking pictures of someone in the restroom or arranging a fight to beat another kid to death would fall under an issue or concern! If you can't have it, then you can't have it. It's all about teaching our kids responsible behaviors and respecting/following the rules.
You do have some valid points in your message. I do have good children but I can see the flip side of the coin. However I do have a problem with your last paragraph. You stated that "it's personal property; however, the school is not their personal property, and people and possessions can be checked if security is an issue or concern". Yes the school may be able to check it for security reasons. But that does not give them the right to keep the cell phones, wait till the end of the year, or charge a fee to return them. That is either stealing, holding them hostage or blackmail take your choice. Either way its illegal. You can not take someones property without there consent and/or not return when requested with out it being considered property theft and punishable by law. If they want to return it at the end of the day fine. If they want to call and have the parents pick it up fine. But they can not retain the cell phones in the manner they are currently doing. It is against state and federal laws which trumps school policy any day of the week.
drk

Denton, TX

#117 Feb 6, 2013
just 2 help wrote:
if you are a single & busy parent some times you may need to text or call them while on the bus ! if the phone is off they shouldnt take the phone .
I agree. Often children who carry phones aren't little babies whose rich mommies are waiting for them with milk and cookies when they get home (while someone else works to pay the bills).

This technology helps parents keep their children safe when they are not able to be there or when the child goes missing (for example, when the school bus is an hour late AGAIN).
Whatever

Johnson City, TN

#118 Feb 6, 2013
kat4242003 wrote:
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You do have some valid points in your message. I do have good children but I can see the flip side of the coin. However I do have a problem with your last paragraph. You stated that "it's personal property; however, the school is not their personal property, and people and possessions can be checked if security is an issue or concern". Yes the school may be able to check it for security reasons. But that does not give them the right to keep the cell phones, wait till the end of the year, or charge a fee to return them. That is either stealing, holding them hostage or blackmail take your choice. Either way its illegal. You can not take someones property without there consent and/or not return when requested with out it being considered property theft and punishable by law. If they want to return it at the end of the day fine. If they want to call and have the parents pick it up fine. But they can not retain the cell phones in the manner they are currently doing. It is against state and federal laws which trumps school policy any day of the week.
If it is the policy of the school, then it will not be considered theft. I know of instances where the law has kept items, even cash in peoples cars that aren't breaking the law. You are wrong in your way of thinking. If you don't believe it, take it to a court of law and let them show you.
the truth of it

Knoxville, TN

#119 Feb 6, 2013
the staff members at the school are overstepping the bounds of their authority. the have no right to confiscate phones, or any other personal property, for an extended time. niether do they have the right to charge for the return of that property. it is only because we tolerate this sort of BS that it happens. it is high time we take back the control of our lives from these paper tigers who think they have much more power than they actually have. it is their job to teach acidemics to our children and NOTHING more.
the truth of it

Knoxville, TN

#120 Feb 6, 2013
Let them eat cake wrote:
<quoted text>The teachers and staff are adults. The students are not. Why should children not have rules to go by? That is the problem with the little spoiled, misbehaved bastards now. They don't need a freakin phone to grow to their ear.
an exemptions from rules is the problem with the elitist jack @sses we put in trusted positions of authority. the teachers and staff are at work and it is the job they should be attending to rather than playing on their phones. you say "they are adults" - then let them act like it and do the job. it is idiots like you that reinforce these peoples belief they are exempt.
Anonymous

Johnson City, TN

#121 Feb 6, 2013
why should kids have phones a school and im a 13year old ima kid me parents would string mep i took my phone to school haa
Whatever

Johnson City, TN

#123 Feb 6, 2013
the truth of it wrote:
the staff members at the school are overstepping the bounds of their authority. the have no right to confiscate phones, or any other personal property, for an extended time. niether do they have the right to charge for the return of that property. it is only because we tolerate this sort of BS that it happens. it is high time we take back the control of our lives from these paper tigers who think they have much more power than they actually have. it is their job to teach acidemics to our children and NOTHING more.
If the child knows they are NOT suppose to have a phone in class, then they have every right to take the phone. If a parent knows this and lets it happen, then the child is getting poor parenting at home. School is for getting your child prepared for college or life. It's not to teach them to be a telemarketer. So get over yourself. You sound like a spoiled brat yourself! If you got a problem with it hire a lawyer and see what they tell you. If they take the case, it's just cause they're hungry and want your money.
Becky

Newberry, SC

#124 Feb 6, 2013
Quit your bitching. Your dumbass kids need to learn when they should have their cell phones out and when they need to be put up. The end... Fucryin out loud...
reality check

Dunlap, TN

#125 Feb 6, 2013
I SAY GO BACK TO WHIPPING THE KIDS @SS THAT WOULD FIX MOST PROBLEMS. BUT IGNORANT BLEEDING HEARTS SAY IT'S ABUSE THEY NEED THEY @SS WHIPPED TO. DAM KIDS DON'T NEED A CELL PHONE AT SCHOOL
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hmmmmmmmm

Greeneville, TN

#126 Feb 6, 2013
i would sue in court and make the school pay the contract,,,,,,,,,,just another bunch of commie bastards trying to say what people can do with their property, prob scared kids will video these sorry ass teachers here doing something they aint suppose to be doing

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