cares

Fort Campbell, TN

#85 Sep 1, 2011
WhoGetsTheMoney wrote:
When I started this thread I simply wanted to know what the money collected is used for. I never intended it to become a big debate of cell phone rights/use/neccesity. I know and have verification by both parent of the student involved( who had to go to schgool and get phone), and a couple of teachers that were witness to the event, that the phone was used in the cafeteria during lunch time.All of that aside, no one has yet been able to say to what use the money is put.
I have wondered this myself...the same rules apply at my sons school...I keep checking back here to see if anyone knows the answer...thinking about just callling the school...I feel like this sends our kids the wrong message...that they can just buy their way out of trouble...
cares

Fort Campbell, TN

#86 Sep 1, 2011
Crap wrote:
This is a bunch of crap. Rules are rules! I am a teacher and get tired of hearing it. Guns aren't allowed, drugs aren't allowed, cell phones aren't allowed! Deal with it. I also have two children with phones that know and follow the rules. In the county schools, "Not Allowed!" You received and signed a policy at the beginning of the year. Being such a great, concerned parent, you probably remember reading that. In the city schools, not allowed out during schools hours. Teach your child a lesson. Punish them at home as well for breaking rules. But no, you cause a stink publicly because you or your child didn't know policy that hasn't changed in years. This is why public education is going downhill. It is never the student or the parent's fault! It is the teacher or the school's fault. I say we throw out all rules together, give all kids A's, watch movies, talk on cell phones, have parties, and let the kids do what they want, and then you would be happy.
Or better yet, maybe we should spend a lot of time teaching the TCAP and then when it's over have one big party. For the last few years(not just in this school system) my son has come home after TCAPS were over and when asked "what did you learn or do in your classes today?"...it was always "oh nothing, we watched a movie or we went outside for most of the day." Seems like all the schools teach anymore is prep for TCAPs. I'm sorry that is JMHO. I find it insulting that we teach our kids to buy their way out of trouble. Was Johnny/Suzy's cell phone taken away? No worries, shell out 20 bucks and you can have it back.

I think we can choose to be a part of the solution or we can keep pointing fingers and be a part of the problem. I'm not saying I'm a perfect parent by any means.
BTW I think the question is
----> Where does the twenty dollars go?????
cares

Fort Campbell, TN

#87 Sep 1, 2011
Scrounger wrote:
<quoted text>
Not that it matters,but when did this happen?? Thats the first Ive heard about it.
me too... first i've heard of this and since my son is always being bullied it would be beneficial to know...I can say that I have sat in line to pick my son up before while they were outside having free time... witnessed several teachers standing around while kids were kicking each other and they just stood there...oh and BTW that is the parents fault I suppose, although teachers have our kids the better part of the day 10 months out of the year...noting a comment from a teacher that posted saying the parents don't take any of the responsibility...
cares

Fort Campbell, TN

#88 Sep 1, 2011
funny wrote:
the money goes back to the kids with other things during the school year and all schools doing that now from what i hear,and i know if students refuse to give their phones up after getting caught with their phones out they get charged with disorderly conducy and these charges are sticking per the judge.
So, we're teaching our kids what?????
That they can buy their way out of trouble. Oh, wait a minute! It's okay, afterall it goes to help them.@@
fishy

Jonesborough, TN

#89 Sep 2, 2011
WhoGetsTheMoney wrote:
When I started this thread I simply wanted to know what the money collected is used for. I never intended it to become a big debate of cell phone rights/use/neccesity. I know and have verification by both parent of the student involved( who had to go to schgool and get phone), and a couple of teachers that were witness to the event, that the phone was used in the cafeteria during lunch time.All of that aside, no one has yet been able to say to what use the money is put.
Why not go straight to the principal's office and ask? Even ask to be shown the books if you like. All of this is suppose to be public record. While you are at it, would you try to find out where the money collected from car washes go as well? With some clubs, etc. you see where the money goes, but others are very questionable. ALSo could you find out why Ruritan clubs get to do what they do. JSome of those people have been around forever. Something just seems a little fishy about that. They sure don't like any new blood around.
fishy

Jonesborough, TN

#90 Sep 2, 2011
Teacher wrote:
Teachers are under strict rules not to have cell phones out in front of students, using them.
This comment is laugable!!!!!!!!!! Need I say any more. But I will, teachers are the worst at breaking this rule. I have happened upon p.e. teachers and coaches abusing this rule constantly. Just laugable!!!
NGHS Mom

Fort Campbell, TN

#92 Sep 5, 2011
Funny thing about all this "Safety" talk... We didn't have cell phones when I was a kid. When I was driving, my parents taught me to do it CAREFULLY and I didn't rive late at night or on roads that a car would have to be "waited on" even IF I were in an accident. And AMAZINGLY I survived, as well as did a whole generation with me and countless before me. It's about spoiled parents with spoiled kids who don't want an education, but socializing time.
Former HS Teacher

Fort Campbell, TN

#93 Sep 5, 2011
Scrounger wrote:
<quoted text>
Your comparin apples to oranges,to my knowledge nobody has ever died because somebody they had their phone at school.One is a rule and the other is a law.
This is where the problems ALL start. Where do you think kids learn to follow LAWS? Hmmm... by following RULES! Just like if you let your kid lay out of school frequently, they are likely to never keep a job because they were never taught "Just because you don't WANT to, doesn't mean you don't HAVE to" If you allow your child to bully others, more than likely that child will be an abuser in lifes relationships (i.e. marriages, child abusers) This is why our country is the way it is. NO ONE wants to TEACH their child right from wrong, good from bad.
WTF

Fort Campbell, TN

#94 Sep 5, 2011
cindy wrote:
I can say one thing if I had a child that was still in school, no one had better not take their phone I would have an attorney on this from the get go and see them in court. I agree not to have them on during class, but what is the problem when they are not in class. Teachers too
People are complaining about paying their $20 fast food money or beer money when they should have told their spoiled brat kid to follow the dam rules and THEN saying hire a dam attorney, which costs thousands of dollars?? WTF do you think is wrong with society today?? This same crap on every level of life is exactly whats wrong!
Scrounger

Gallatin, TN

#95 Sep 5, 2011
Former HS Teacher wrote:
<quoted text>
This is where the problems ALL start. Where do you think kids learn to follow LAWS? Hmmm... by following RULES! Just like if you let your kid lay out of school frequently, they are likely to never keep a job because they were never taught "Just because you don't WANT to, doesn't mean you don't HAVE to" If you allow your child to bully others, more than likely that child will be an abuser in lifes relationships (i.e. marriages, child abusers) This is why our country is the way it is. NO ONE wants to TEACH their child right from wrong, good from bad.
So I guess its safe to say you always drive the posted speed limit,obey all traffic laws,only smoke in designated areas(if you smoke,never ran the red light in front of Walmart and never do anything that is against the rules???? I'll answer that for ya,NO.You can preach following rules/laws all you want but when the truth comes out none of us,not me,not you,not the cops,or anybody else for that matter,follow all the rules.I'm gonna give you the benefit of a doubt since you dont know me or my kids but to suggest that they will become a drain on society and have abusive realtionships is quite a stretch.
Former HS Teacher

Fort Campbell, TN

#96 Sep 6, 2011
Did I say YOUR kid? If you aren't the parent keeping your kid out of school because you have the day off and need someone to hang out with or ASSISTING or SUPPORTING your child in breaking the rules that the schools clearly lay before you AND your child, then my statement doesn't apply to you. Just like I taught my children to LOOK AT THE DETAILS, do the same. As far as breaking the rules or laws are concerned, I didn't say anything about that either, now did I? Did my statement, at any point, say I personally never break laws or rules? If you can find one thing in there that even suggests that, I will retract my statement. Otherwise, find someone else's donkey to jump on and get off mine dear.
Concerned Parent

Fort Campbell, TN

#97 Sep 6, 2011
cares wrote:
<quoted text>
...I can say that I have sat in line to pick my son up before while they were outside having free time... witnessed several teachers standing around while kids were kicking each other and they just stood there...
LOL and you just SAT there right? So whose fault is it again?
cares

Fort Campbell, TN

#98 Sep 8, 2011
Concerned Parent wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL and you just SAT there right? So whose fault is it again?
the answer to your statement would be NO...I addressed it to the assistant principle...ask before you assume...
cares

Fort Campbell, TN

#99 Sep 8, 2011
Here is what I think...this is all BS...I retract a lot of my statements that were made out of frustration and anger...I am only human...I apologize for the statement I made in a former post in response to a teacher...I do feel it necessary to have some sort of punishment for breaking a rule...my son has been raised to respect authority...that doesn't mean he always will...he doesn't have a cell phone so I guess I shouldn't worry about the issue that much....so I will leave all you to your petty arguing...I will say this though...with times changing and public schools changing I see a lot of people opting for the online school option...I looked into it this year and may go that route next year...I want my son to learn and be as productive as possible without all of the BS...
wow

Thompsons Station, TN

#100 Sep 9, 2011
In Hamblen County, the kids can take it to school but are not to allowed have it out during school hours. Some kids need it if they miss the bus or have practice after school,etc. If they are caught with it out during school hours, then the 1st time it is taken up for 7 school days and they get one day in school suspension but if the parent wants it back before the time is up you have to pay a $50 fine. The 2nd time the student is caught with it out it is taken for 14 days and the kid gets 3 days inschool suspension. If the parent wants it back b4 the 14 days are up they can pay a $100 fine. My son takes his but takes the battery out and keeps it in his locker until the end of the day.He knows if he has it out and it gets taken, that I will not pay any fine to get it back. He will go without his phone.
Student

Mansfield, TX

#101 Apr 29, 2012
Teacher wrote:
I am a teacher at a county school. We don't allow students to pay to get them. They don't get them back for awhile. 1st time you get it back after a week, 2nd a month, and 3rd time you don't get it back until the end of the year.
That is a load of bullshit. You shouldn't be allowed to keep the phone for that long. At that point, I would rather pay $50! What the idiots that work the school board don't realize is that students need phones otherwise they wouldn't have them.
For whom the Bell tolls

Smyrna, TN

#102 Apr 29, 2012
Student wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a load of bullshit. You shouldn't be allowed to keep the phone for that long. At that point, I would rather pay $50! What the idiots that work the school board don't realize is that students need phones otherwise they wouldn't have them.
Students in this country got by without phones at school for 400 years. Would the schools have to close if no students had phones?
SouthernBelle

Blacksburg, SC

#103 Apr 29, 2012
My kid doesn't have a phone and he's doing just fine. If he needs to call me, he goes to the office...just like I did growing up. During extracurricular sports trips, the coach texts parents or the word gets out "grapevine" style that the bus will be late....just like when I was growing up. Kids don't NEED phones. They just WANT them.
Not Racist

Greeneville, TN

#104 Apr 30, 2012
Crap wrote:
This is a bunch of crap. Rules are rules! I am a teacher and get tired of hearing it. Guns aren't allowed, drugs aren't allowed, cell phones aren't allowed! Deal with it. I also have two children with phones that know and follow the rules. In the county schools, "Not Allowed!" You received and signed a policy at the beginning of the year. Being such a great, concerned parent, you probably remember reading that. In the city schools, not allowed out during schools hours. Teach your child a lesson. Punish them at home as well for breaking rules. But no, you cause a stink publicly because you or your child didn't know policy that hasn't changed in years. This is why public education is going downhill. It is never the student or the parent's fault! It is the teacher or the school's fault. I say we throw out all rules together, give all kids A's, watch movies, talk on cell phones, have parties, and let the kids do what they want, and then you would be happy.
It is hard for parents to tell their children you can't take your phone to school it is against the rules. Then they come home saying Mrs. XXXXX or Mr. XXXXX always has their phone out during class texting. So the kids thinks they can sneak their phones to school and get by with it like teachers and staff do.

So do you follow the rules??? NOT ALLOWED should apply to the teachers and staff too!!!!!!!!! RULES are RULES Everyone should have to follow them!!!! Remember Adults we lead by EXAMPLE, if teacher have their cell phones at school and have them out in class (which is breaking the rule), it just shows children they can break the rule too.
wow

Julian, NC

#105 Apr 30, 2012
I'm not in school anymore but they can't take your property and charge you to get it back. They can hold it until the end of the day and then give it back but not sell it back too you.

That's basically stealing my property. This is not Russia or North Korea. I would dare them to try and pull that on me or my child.

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