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Greeneville: 4 main reasons that people refuse to move here

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yes

Charlotte, NC

#1 Jul 27, 2014
I believe the following are 4 main reasons that people refuse to move to Greeneville, feel free to add others:

The horrific traffic jams on the antiquated bypass; A lack of any real good restaurants(no real good steakhouses but 3 McDonald's and 2 Hardee's?); The downtown ghost town that rolls up the sidewalks promptly at 5 pm; and finally the cops that fry everybody trying to flee the mayhem for greener pastures (45 mph on a large expanse of open 4 lane headed out of town?).

“The doctor is in!”

Since: Jul 14

G'Vegas

#2 Jul 27, 2014
yes wrote:
I believe the following are 4 main reasons that people refuse to move to Greeneville, feel free to add others:
The horrific traffic jams on the antiquated bypass; A lack of any real good restaurants(no real good steakhouses but 3 McDonald's and 2 Hardee's?); The downtown ghost town that rolls up the sidewalks promptly at 5 pm; and finally the cops that fry everybody trying to flee the mayhem for greener pastures (45 mph on a large expanse of open 4 lane headed out of town?).
You fail to mention that we are all a bunch of barefoot, uneducated inbreds. Or were you going to include that in your next contemptible rant against our town .
Umm

Greeneville, TN

#3 Jul 27, 2014
Dr Wu wrote:
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You fail to mention that we are all a bunch of barefoot, uneducated inbreds. Or were you going to include that in your next contemptible rant against our town .
I don't see anything in his rant that is untrue?
Hawkman

Greeneville, TN

#4 Jul 27, 2014
One day tourists will come here to see and kneel at the statue of the HAWK in the center of town!

People will take pictures standing under the HAWK's wise gaze.
blood

Johnson City, TN

#5 Jul 27, 2014
yes wrote:
I believe the following are 4 main reasons that people refuse to move to Greeneville, feel free to add others:
The horrific traffic jams on the antiquated bypass; A lack of any real good restaurants(no real good steakhouses but 3 McDonald's and 2 Hardee's?); The downtown ghost town that rolls up the sidewalks promptly at 5 pm; and finally the cops that fry everybody trying to flee the mayhem for greener pastures (45 mph on a large expanse of open 4 lane headed out of town?).
you left off the chances of meeting a person with your attitudes and opinions. move, then.
blood

Johnson City, TN

#6 Jul 27, 2014
Hawkman wrote:
One day tourists will come here to see and kneel at the statue of the HAWK in the center of town!
People will take pictures standing under the HAWK's wise gaze.
booooooooooooooooooooooring. definitely a fantasy.
blood

Johnson City, TN

#7 Jul 27, 2014
yes wrote:
I believe the following are 4 main reasons that people refuse to move to Greeneville, feel free to add others:
The horrific traffic jams on the antiquated bypass; A lack of any real good restaurants(no real good steakhouses but 3 McDonald's and 2 Hardee's?); The downtown ghost town that rolls up the sidewalks promptly at 5 pm; and finally the cops that fry everybody trying to flee the mayhem for greener pastures (45 mph on a large expanse of open 4 lane headed out of town?).
1.'horrific,' a relative term. for 6 months deal daily with the DC capital, NYC, Chicago, or L.A. then complain. 2. with rare exceptions the citizenry of Greeneville do not support any restaurants except fast food and breakfast/lunch venues. restaurant owners would like to make some profit. 3. retailers and restaurant owners make money where people come out to shop. very difficult to maintain a downtown business when most of your customer base is in Walmart's parking lot after 5. 4. the police enforce the traffic LAWS that have been enacted. changing the speed limits on any highway involves the legislative process.
yes

Anderson, SC

#8 Jul 27, 2014
blood wrote:
<quoted text>1.'horrific,' a relative term. for 6 months deal daily with the DC capital, NYC, Chicago, or L.A. then complain. 2. with rare exceptions the citizenry of Greeneville do not support any restaurants except fast food and breakfast/lunch venues. restaurant owners would like to make some profit. 3. retailers and restaurant owners make money where people come out to shop. very difficult to maintain a downtown business when most of your customer base is in Walmart's parking lot after 5. 4. the police enforce the traffic LAWS that have been enacted. changing the speed limits on any highway involves the legislative process.
1: We do not live in DC or LA, so there really isn't a comparison here. Something needs to be done to fix the bypass congestion problem - pointing out the congestion in larger cities with a much greater population does nothing.

2: The reason most people do not "support" a higher-end restaurant venue is two-fold; 1: There haven't been any opportunities for them to support such a venue to begin with, and 2: They travel to other towns such as Johnson City to get something good to eat - how's that been working out for Greeneville's economy? No wonder the town is desperate to hand out speeding tickets for the extra revenue.

3: If there were venues open downtown after 5pm then the Walmart parking lot would'nt be so full. Asheville NC is a great example, but I guess the old fogies in power are scared to death of such a "wildly hip and progressive"concept.

4: Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

“The doctor is in!”

Since: Jul 14

G'Vegas

#9 Jul 27, 2014
Nashville has been working on the road around Greeneville since 1994 and is getting close to making a decision as to the final route. I am sure it will cost in the tens of millions to build, money that Tennessee probably does not have right now.
Restaurants are nice but hardly a tax wind fall for a county. Take Johnson City for example, they were smart in developing Med Tech park which brings in millions of dollars for the city. Without good paying jobs restaurants are of no value.
Comparing downtown Asheville to downtown Greeneville is like comparing apples to oranges, not unlike your city comparison. We just don't have the same downtown structure nor the hip young professional people to make it happen.
It kind of sounds like you just have it in for good ole Greene County which is fine, you are free to stay where you are.
Benny Hill

Greeneville, TN

#10 Jul 27, 2014
What is not mentioned here is that business always correlates with demographics. We have EXACTLY what is profitable here in the way of restaurants and retail business .

If we were better educated, and had more money in the hands of more people, we would have businesses and restaurants to meet that demand. If we had a highly skilled and educated workforce, we would have more high paying jobs. It is really that simple.
Benny Hill

Greeneville, TN

#11 Jul 27, 2014
Benny Hill wrote:
What is not mentioned here is that business always correlates with demographics. We have EXACTLY what is profitable here in the way of restaurants and retail business .
If we were better educated, and had more money in the hands of more people, we would have businesses and restaurants to meet that demand. If we had a highly skilled and educated workforce, we would have more high paying jobs. It is really that simple.
What I meant to add to the above is that there are reasons that we have tobacco shops, pawn shops, buy here-pay here car lots, payday loans and check cash places, fast food joints, tattoo parlors, rent to own businesses, and no Mercedes or Ferrari dealer. DEMOGRAPHICS!

“The doctor is in!”

Since: Jul 14

G'Vegas

#12 Jul 27, 2014
Benny Hill wrote:
<quoted text>What I meant to add to the above is that there are reasons that we have tobacco shops, pawn shops, buy here-pay here car lots, payday loans and check cash places, fast food joints, tattoo parlors, rent to own businesses, and no Mercedes or Ferrari dealer. DEMOGRAPHICS!
You know what you stated may not be easy to swallow but it is the truth and well said. However that being said I am still proud to call Greene County home. I say to all the haters if you do not like it here you are free to leave.
Benny Hill

Greeneville, TN

#13 Jul 27, 2014
Dr Wu wrote:
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You know what you stated may not be easy to swallow but it is the truth and well said. However that being said I am still proud to call Greene County home. I say to all the haters if you do not like it here you are free to leave.
I have no desire to leave. I am merely pointing out the facts. Anytime I wish to enjoy something that is not available locally, I go someplace that it is available. This is a great place to live if you have enough money to travel occasionally.
blood

Johnson City, TN

#14 Jul 27, 2014
yes wrote:
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1: We do not live in DC or LA, so there really isn't a comparison here. Something needs to be done to fix the bypass congestion problem - pointing out the congestion in larger cities with a much greater population does nothing.
2: The reason most people do not "support" a higher-end restaurant venue is two-fold; 1: There haven't been any opportunities for them to support such a venue to begin with, and 2: They travel to other towns such as Johnson City to get something good to eat - how's that been working out for Greeneville's economy? No wonder the town is desperate to hand out speeding tickets for the extra revenue.
3: If there were venues open downtown after 5pm then the Walmart parking lot would'nt be so full. Asheville NC is a great example, but I guess the old fogies in power are scared to death of such a "wildly hip and progressive"concept.
4: Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
regarding your counterpoint 1, there is no significant traffic congestion except if one is always impatient and in a hurry; regarding counterpoints 2 & 3, the phrase,'circular argument,' applies; regarding counterpoint 4, you are welcome.

“The doctor is in!”

Since: Jul 14

G'Vegas

#15 Jul 27, 2014
Benny Hill wrote:
<quoted text>I have no desire to leave. I am merely pointing out the facts. Anytime I wish to enjoy something that is not available locally, I go someplace that it is available. This is a great place to live if you have enough money to travel occasionally.
You misunderstood my statement. I was in no way in implying for you personally to leave, it was a blanket statement aimed at others that get on here and just mindlessly blast Greene County for no other reason than their own self loathing. I think you made some very good and cognizant points.:)

“The doctor is in!”

Since: Jul 14

G'Vegas

#16 Jul 27, 2014
Also, I happen to be a huge Benny Hill fan! So I know you can't be all bad....;)
Benny Hill

Greeneville, TN

#17 Jul 27, 2014
Dr Wu wrote:
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You misunderstood my statement. I was in no way in implying for you personally to leave, it was a blanket statement aimed at others that get on here and just mindlessly blast Greene County for no other reason than their own self loathing. I think you made some very good and cognizant points.:)
Thanks. I was listening to Steely Dan on Sirius radio during my road trip this week, and thought of you Dr.Wu.

“The doctor is in!”

Since: Jul 14

G'Vegas

#18 Jul 27, 2014
Benny Hill wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks. I was listening to Steely Dan on Sirius radio during my road trip this week, and thought of you Dr.Wu.
WOW! You made my evening! Thank you.
yes

Matthews, NC

#19 Jul 27, 2014
Dr Wu wrote:
Comparing downtown Asheville to downtown Greeneville is like comparing apples to oranges, not unlike your city comparison. We just don't have the same downtown structure nor the hip young professional people to make it happen.
It kind of sounds like you just have it in for good ole Greene County which is fine, you are free to stay where you are.
You make it sound like the people of greeneville are living in a giant bubble, where only the people who live here would patronize any downtown establishments geared toward the trendy, hip crowd of today. I submit that not only are there already young, hip and intelligent young professionals living here who would be overjoyed to have a local downtown trendy establishment to patronize(remember Tusculum College?), an establishment such as this would actually draw in customers from (gasp!) other nearby towns as well, which could actually serve as a catalyst to spur others to open similar establishments.

If you think my comparison of Greeneville to Asheville was a bit of a stretch, then I'll take it down several notches and use the town of Hot Springs as an example. In the last few years the town has grown exponentially with several hip and trendy establishments springing up geared toward the younger crowd, yet appealing to all ages, many as tourist passing through and stopping in or traveling from other towns to mingle with friends. Needless to say, their sidewalks stay down way after 5pm. Hot Springs may have the mineral spas, but Greeneville has many draws and interesting things to see and do as well.

You might think I "have it in" for Greeneville, but you're mistaken - it's actually quite the opposite. I love the history surrounding the town and many of the people who live here. I'm just very frustrated at the obvious neglect and stranglehold that's been inflicted upon the town for so long. Greeneville, and the good people who live here, deserve better...much better.

I see many people here with their heads in the sand or plugging their ears and saying "Greeneville is awesome, don't you dare say otherwise!", making excuse after excuse as to why it is okay to keep the same old status quo, but you let a Texas Roadhouse or an Outback Steakhouse, or even a Golden Corrall move in, and sit back and watch as their parking lots stay consistantly full of grateful Greenevillians who are glad they didn't have to drive Grandma or the kids all the way to Johnson City to have a great meal.
bozo palace

Greeneville, TN

#20 Jul 27, 2014
yes wrote:
I believe the following are 4 main reasons that people refuse to move to Greeneville, feel free to add others:
The horrific traffic jams on the antiquated bypass; A lack of any real good restaurants(no real good steakhouses but 3 McDonald's and 2 Hardee's?); The downtown ghost town that rolls up the sidewalks promptly at 5 pm; and finally the cops that fry everybody trying to flee the mayhem for greener pastures (45 mph on a large expanse of open 4 lane headed out of town?).
Traffic jams? LOL...Apparently you have no idea what a traffic jam is. There was twice the amount of traffic when Philips was in operation. Traffic is minimal now. Tool around Knoxville at 5:00pm and get some experience driving.

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