Coffee Lover

Greeneville, TN

#42 Jan 9, 2013
funny wrote:
Well Coffee Lover sounds like you've had a few dealings with them yourself. Grandpa King as you call him may not be completely out of touch with reality but "meth" come on if you know them so well you would know this is something not everyone knows the smell unless you been there yourself. Hell I wouldnt. I think it's so funny how people can know someone so well and still know nothing about anything, just something to do I guess when you get bored... The pregnant girl everyone is so worried about knew what she was doing and didnt care, and yes she was charged with Haleys Law as she should of been. The father everyone seems to think they know it all was Jesse Willett the other one charged with manufacturing. The baby was the last thing on anyones mind especially the mother who should be the most concerned. She is the only one charged with Haleys Law as she should be the only one.
Oh yes! You're right! I have had dealings with the Kings, but not the type of dealings you want to believe. Obviously, some of us in Greeneville know the Kings better than you know them and we're not even family, nor do we do drugs with or buy drugs from them! Sorry to disappoint you since you obviously believe the Kings are such bad characters that a person couldn't have "dealings" with them unless it were "drug dealings".
saddened

Jonesborough, TN

#43 Jan 9, 2013
I am very saddened that this has happened to Mr. King (or Grandpa King as Coffee Lover likes to call him). Hello...he's 85. I would love to hear what kind of dealings you have had with him over the years, Coffee Lover. How would he ever defend himself if he tried to stop it? "IF" he knew it was going on, what was he to do? Please don't judge someone when you don't know the facts. You obviously weren't there or your would be in jail too. He has lost his home and is not in good health. Pray for him instead of bad mouthing him.
funny

Greeneville, TN

#44 Jan 9, 2013
Coffee Lover wrote:
<quoted text> Oh yes! You're right! I have had dealings with the Kings, but not the type of dealings you want to believe. Obviously, some of us in Greeneville know the Kings better than you know them and we're not even family, nor do we do drugs with or buy drugs from them! Sorry to disappoint you since you obviously believe the Kings are such bad characters that a person couldn't have "dealings" with them unless it were "drug dealings".
I never said they were innocent; hell, I for one would say yeah they are drug dealers I'm sure, the old man is the one I was defending, he is too old to know what they were doing. Have you seen him lately, they run all over him and Debbie. If he did know what they were doing how could he stop what they were doing. Debbie let the police in looks like if she was a part of it she would of had to have a warrant. HUH!! There not my family either, my family has better sense than that BS..... I just happen to be married to a part of that family that does know better and wouldnt be caught dead around anyone of them. So dont believe everything you hear abt ppl, unless you can prove it, and if he was in any shape at all to do anything, he wouldnt be in the hospital would he? He would be in jail already. Yeah he is probably going over James and Jesse and probably even Jessica, Kristin and Rich oh yeah and BJ Wilburn hell there would have to be a damn Wilburn close when shit hits the fan...BUT the point is the old man is sick and needs to be left alone it's more money for Greene County when they take his land that is of course what this is all about anyway... like someone said earlier thier not major drug dealers hell thier too broke. How many drug dealers you see that is that broke. It was probably a cheap ass high for them since they were broke and as for the money well it was the first of the month and Debbie and the Old man gets a ck, think that could of been where it came from? And yeah the robbery was prob one of james drug deals gone wrong Ive said that since I read the paper and thier story of events... Greeneville is too small not to know who the Kings are and where they live and what they do its just theres alot of morons only knows what they hear from other morons that make up shit, aint like they got it from one of the horses mouth... Oh wait thats where I got my info Jesse is trying to bond out did yall know that? Probably NOT!!!!!!!!
scrounger

Greeneville, TN

#45 Jan 9, 2013
Heres the thing even if the old man didnt know what they were doin the smell from the makin of meth had to be affectin him,burnin his eyes/throat at the very least.Their is such a thing as protective services for the elderly.If it was goin on against his will all he would have had to do was call the law and they would have removed the problem.As for the county just wantin the property,yeah that must be it seein as how it is such a palatial home in a very exclusive part of greene county and Im sure people are waitin in line to buy homes that has had meth made in em,I bet the county cant condemn them fast enuf.Any procedes from he property Im sure will go toward the clean up and if they have dumped any of the left overs out on the ground they will have to dig that up and dispose of it properly,and that $hit aint done for free.They have a foot path wore out from goin down to the store to sell their dope,stop and look sometime.The people in the store dont even like parking their cars beside the store cause they cant see whats goin on.
notaclue

Jonesborough, TN

#46 Jan 10, 2013
first off (to my knowledge) the kings are not related to the unborn child the only one abusing this infant is its mother and she will have to answer for that greene county will hype this to the max to try and uphold their crappy choice fo a sheriff any way type on my clueless friends your comments are very amusing...
Seriously

Nashville, TN

#47 Jan 10, 2013
notaclue wrote:
first off (to my knowledge) the kings are not related to the unborn child the only one abusing this infant is its mother and she will have to answer for that greene county will hype this to the max to try and uphold their crappy choice fo a sheriff any way type on my clueless friends your comments are very amusing...
Someone should of learned a lesson. Wasn't two kids removed two months ago from out of this group?(read that in one of the news articles). If the dad was there with mom, he should be guilty for not protecting his unborn child to.
scrounger

Greeneville, TN

#48 Jan 10, 2013
notaclue wrote:
first off (to my knowledge) the kings are not related to the unborn child the only one abusing this infant is its mother and she will have to answer for that greene county will hype this to the max to try and uphold their crappy choice fo a sheriff any way type on my clueless friends your comments are very amusing...
Dang looks like you need a new friend,one called punctuation.That $hit was hard to follow.Lookin at their pics on mugshots most were charged w lesser offenses like posession,paraphenalia,ect so it would seem to me it would be hard to hype that.
nasty

Greeneville, TN

#49 Jan 11, 2013
I do not personally know any of them, but I live near this house and would always run into a few of them at the store in front of the house. Nastiest people I've ever seen. I don't think they were dealers. I'd say they just cooked meth all day for personal use. The two I always saw drove a blue van held together with duct tape. Always barefoot and digging in the dumpster beside the store. Didn't look as if they had a quarter to their name. I'm glad they got busted so I no longer feel the need to disinfect myself and kids after leaving the store when they have been in there
methel

Fort Campbell, TN

#50 Jan 11, 2013
Seriously wrote:
<quoted text>
Someone should of learned a lesson. Wasn't two kids removed two months ago from out of this group?(read that in one of the news articles). If the dad was there with mom, he should be guilty for not protecting his unborn child to.
Who ever it was that took the kids should be guilty for not reporting the stuff !!
As for the old man he probably didnt even know what was going on ! or what is PERIOD !
methel

Fort Campbell, TN

#51 Jan 11, 2013
or what *meth is
notaclue

Jonesborough, TN

#52 Jan 11, 2013
scrounger wrote:
<quoted text>
Dang looks like you need a new friend,one called punctuation.That $hit was hard to follow.Lookin at their pics on mugshots most were charged w lesser offenses like posession,paraphenalia,ect so it would seem to me it would be hard to hype that.
My apologies to you, I totaly missed the english 101 above the topix headlie (my bad). As for they hype I was refering to- the afore mentioned thank you to steve burns (what a joke). They were all there so yes they should all be charged. As for the elderly gentleman, it is hard to say if he knew what was going on or not. At the age of 85 I am pretty sure he trusted his family to take care of him. I sure hope this comment was eaiser for you to follow.......... here are a few extra .'s in case you get the urge to stick them someplace. Have a nice evening.
notaclue

Jonesborough, TN

#53 Jan 11, 2013
Seriously wrote:
<quoted text>
Someone should of learned a lesson. Wasn't two kids removed two months ago from out of this group?(read that in one of the news articles). If the dad was there with mom, he should be guilty for not protecting his unborn child to.
I am not sure if any children were removed from the group. I know this is Jessica,s first and only child. As for the father not protecting the unborn child, that would be pretty hard to do,unless he had control of the mother. Until the child is born the only one controlling its saftey and well being is its mother.
Coffee Lover

Greeneville, TN

#54 Jan 11, 2013
nasty wrote:
I do not personally know any of them, but I live near this house and would always run into a few of them at the store in front of the house. Nastiest people I've ever seen. I don't think they were dealers. I'd say they just cooked meth all day for personal use. The two I always saw drove a blue van held together with duct tape. Always barefoot and digging in the dumpster beside the store. Didn't look as if they had a quarter to their name. I'm glad they got busted so I no longer feel the need to disinfect myself and kids after leaving the store when they have been in there
Yes, they dig in the dumpster next to the store looking for plastic bottles to make meth in. Please, you really think they weren't dealers? No, I don't think you really believe they weren't dealers. You think because they drove around in that trashy blue van held together by duct tape, that they didn't have any money? Give me a break! They probably made more money in a week than I make in a month! Why are you trying to convince everyone that they weren't dealers? You must have some sort of interest in this family and their property. Maybe you expected to inherit the old man's property one day? I'm sure it's not worth much anymore, so I wouldn't worry too much.
Hate to say i know them

Greeneville, TN

#55 Jan 11, 2013
They in fact was NOT dealers. The ones drivein that blue van Kristen and Rich had here kids takein away about 2 months ago for failing drug test. They new where to hook up with drugs but sell them NO. The papers didnt say WHO IN FACT WAS CIIKING THE METH. I have personally seen them out of gas tons of freakin times parked at stores BECAUSE THEY WAS OUT OF GAS. Really people if they was selling sh!t would they have been soo broke.
DarKPenguiN

Jackson, MI

#56 Jan 11, 2013
Coffee Lover wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, they dig in the dumpster next to the store looking for plastic bottles to make meth in. Please, you really think they weren't dealers? No, I don't think you really believe they weren't dealers. You think because they drove around in that trashy blue van held together by duct tape, that they didn't have any money? Give me a break! They probably made more money in a week than I make in a month! Why are you trying to convince everyone that they weren't dealers? You must have some sort of interest in this family and their property. Maybe you expected to inherit the old man's property one day? I'm sure it's not worth much anymore, so I wouldn't worry too much.
Why do you assume that anyone who thinks there is some "railroading" going on is a family member wanting a dumpy house? You accused me of being a family member (wanting the house) and now another person- maybe you are Law Enforcement wanting to take the hose and buy it for pennies on the dollar to give to your kids so they can finally move out at 30 years of age??? See what I did there?

Anyhow, as I said before- There is no way they were "major" drug dealers as outlined in several news articles- That isn't to say that occasionally some drugs weren't sold; But its a far cry from an addict selling drugs to help support their habit than to be a "major" drug dealer...Again, I have not seen any of them in over 15 years but James is on my Facebook (as is his brother) and recently his son sent him the money for a BUS TICKET because he was broke...In fact, here http://www.facebook.com/profile.php... notice his last post talks about having to "sleep on the streets" (not indicative of a "major" drug dealer) and note how his 17 year old sent him money (also not indicative of a "major" drug dealer)

Now, I am against asset forfeiture laws...Period. If it were James's home and he was there alone cooking tons of meth I am against taking property... I would be against this if it happened top you as well- The reason is that it places incentive on this failure we call the "War on Drugs" and is turning police departments into militant organizations complete with tanks, drones and surveillance equipment more fitting of the Soviet KGB than ANYTHING this nation is supposed to stand for.

That said, an 85 year old man should not be punished for what others did.

Now...Here is what I heard (take it for what its worth) James King (the younger) was cooking the meth- The other dude who was there (BJ, I think is his name but I could be mistaken) was helping- Kristin and her husband were visiting and the other couple- I have no idea about. Debbie let the Police in when they asked due to a warrant for James (she could have refused and had she known anything was amiss- Why let them in?They had no warrant for ENTRY).

If james and co. have turned into raging criminals- They were not like that when I knew them. Drugs (especially meth from my limited understanding) can destroy people and make their lives into a living hell. What is sad to me is that he was coming back to Michigan on the 6th or 7th (per his FB page) and had the ticket. Had he made it here he MAY have changed his life (and may not have as well as there is meth here also- Just not so much as in the South)- BUT he could have had a chance.

If what I heard is the truth (and I believe it is) then he is an idiot for not keeping himself clean a few more days- For wanting one more "high" and having pretty terrible timing.

Again, the whole thing is sad.

But if the "Kings" are major drug dealers where you are from I think you must not have a very big drug problem in your community as here (Michigan) even small timers can afford cars and not live with three to four generations in a home.
scrounger

Greeneville, TN

#57 Jan 11, 2013
notaclue wrote:
<quoted text> My apologies to you, I totaly missed the english 101 above the topix headlie (my bad). As for they hype I was refering to- the afore mentioned thank you to steve burns (what a joke). They were all there so yes they should all be charged. As for the elderly gentleman, it is hard to say if he knew what was going on or not. At the age of 85 I am pretty sure he trusted his family to take care of him. I sure hope this comment was eaiser for you to follow.......... here are a few extra .'s in case you get the urge to stick them someplace. Have a nice evening.
Thanks,that was much better and I'll hold onto the extras for your future posts.
Hate to say i know them

Greeneville, TN

#58 Jan 12, 2013
I totally agree DarkPenguin. This wasnt a major drug bust. Never the less i do hope this changes them for the best.
DarKPenguiN

Jackson, MI

#59 Jan 12, 2013
Hate to say i know them wrote:
I totally agree DarkPenguin. This wasnt a major drug bust. Never the less i do hope this changes them for the best.
Well, to be honest I feel its too late for James (the younger) as it looks to me like he is facing some very , very serious charges. Aggravated Robbery (whatever happened there-) is probably enough to put him away for some time- Throw a meth lab on top of it and I think James is gone for a good, long time. I think James had the last opportunity for change he is ever going to get when he made a choice to "party it up" before coming back to Michigan for "change".

Debbie (the Debbie I knew, anyhow) was never into anything. She actually worked 2 Jobs and rented a home on a lake. Whatever her involvement is in this is (IMHO) little to none. Someone here said she was arrested for selling Pills- IF that is true, what the hell happened to her? As I mentioned before , I have never known debbie to even drink more than a tiny amount and have never saw her do any drugs- Period. I would say, this will probably scare the hell out of her and she would make any changes necessary to avoid this (or anything like this-) from happening again.

Kristin and her Boyfriend- Looks like they were charged only with "drug paraphernalia" which (in my State) would be a very minor misdemeanor. I am totally surprised the County has decided (in its infinite wisdom) to use taxpayer money to lock up someone for paraphernalia- Also, interesting they do not note "WHAT" the alleged paraphernalia was- A Bowl for smoking Cannabis?A Straw? A rolled up dollar bill? Chore Boy?- Had there been Meth residue they would have been charged with possession I would imagine- But IDK... When I knew Kristin she was a little girl so honestly I know nothing about her character from even back in the day.

-James King (Grandpa)probably had a hell of a wake up call. I imagine if and when he is released and if and when he gets his home back he will send the rest packing- Or he is foolish.I would have no forgiveness if I were him if my family, MY BLOOD, would put me at risk of losing everything including my freedom when I was giving them a place to live.

James was the only one I was really close with (kind of debbie also, but not so much) and I think he just threw his entire life away... I think he has been in a bad place for a long time and I think he had the opportunity to better himself and chose not to. In fact, I think James had more opportunity than most of us since his family supported him into adulthood. He could have went to school and lived rent free, he could have worked at an entry level apprenticeship or went to a Trade School while not worrying about bills- His Mom has let James (and James girlfriends) live there and have to do nothing in return- No work, school, etc... I would have killed if my parents would have helped me like that and I am sure most of you would have as well- AND used to opportunity to better myself with school...

James is one of those people that I am afraid will not change at this point. And he was a really good guy with lots of wasted potential.
DEMOCRALYPSE

Locust, NC

#60 Jan 12, 2013
No pity here.woulda,coulda,shoulda..If Charles Manson would have made better choices he wouldn't be on death row.
DarKPenguiN

Jackson, MI

#61 Jan 12, 2013
DEMOCRALYPSE wrote:
No pity here.woulda,coulda,shoulda..If Charles Manson would have made better choices he wouldn't be on death row.
First off Charles Masnson is NOT on Death Row (maybe google or read before posting)

-Second off, comparing someone who is a drug addict/dealer to a cult leader who Murdered may people and brainwashed many others is bit...um...extreme.

I also agree that James should do time if he was manufacturing meth- I do not think anyone is disputing that fact.

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