Should state mandate immunizations? N...

Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July

There are 9767 comments on the Chattanoogan.com story from May 4, 2011, titled Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July. In it, Chattanoogan.com reports that:

Immunizations are one of the most efficient and cost-effective ways to protect children against childhood diseases and Tennessee law requires documented immunizations.

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Since: Feb 13

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#7366 May 4, 2013
Hey wrote:
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That's 789 thousand.
Lived not libed.I got to stay away from that wine bucket.
YES, you do! It makes mean, cruel, abusive, irrational, and unreasonable!

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7367 May 4, 2013
Done my homework wrote:
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Responsible parents pay so you and yours can hold to an illusion of safety and security.
You believe that immunization from common viral diseases is an illusion.

Explain why the number of polio cases in the US went down after vaccination.
Explain why we don't see any small pox cases.
Why don't we see measels, mumps, whooping cough, etc a the rates we had them pre-vaccination?

The problem with your argument is that it is OBVIOUSLY false.

The problem with your actions is that they are OBVIOUSLY sociopathic.

You clearly don't care about the lives of your children or the children of other people in our society.
You are one of those that Ben Franklin was talking about who would trade liberty for security, but deserve neither.
If you think Ben Franklin was talking about medicine in that quote, you are out of your [email protected] mind.

We do not live in a society that tolerates people like you killing citizens. If you were to pick up a gun and start shooting into a crowd, you would find out very quickly where your liberty ends.

The fact that you would put your life and the lives of EVERYONE ELSE at risk for LITERALLY NO GAIN to yourself OR society just means that you are exactly the sort of person who has no right to avail yourself of the freedoms America provides.

You're a terrorist.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7368 May 4, 2013
Hey wrote:
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Since the grand Medical system kills around 789 folks a year(number 1 cause of death) on bad drugs,bad mistakes bad guesses I'd say I'd have saved 789 plus had they gone organic, holistic, and got educated about what going on in the world of just give us your money and shut up.
Gramma through away her drugs and said they weren't doing her any good.
Grama felt better than ever.Gramma libed to be 104 and 6 months.Gramma knows as much as Mother Nature.
BTW the Queen of England loves her Homopathic medicines.
This is one of the most amazingly stupid posts I've seen in a very long time.

It's almost too stupid to get into.

I'll start here:
The difference between "organic" and "real" medicine is that real medicine actually contains the compound you are expecting to get whereas the "organic" medicine contains additional, untested and unmeasured chemicals which you may or may not be expecting.

If "holistic" medicine were effective, REAL medicine wouldn't exist. Holistic medicine was around first, you dipshit.

If people could run faster than cars, cars wouldn't have taken over the market.

If holistic medicine cured people, real medicine wouldn't have taken over the market.

But let's go back to the start of the post for a second. 789 deaths is the "leading cause of death"? Seriously?

In 2009, nearly 100 people died A DAY in car accidents, totally just under 35,000.

And then let's consider this...

You are claiming that 789 deaths were caused by someone making a mistake and giving someone the wrong medicine. Okay, let's accept that number ON ITS FACE.

How does that compare to the number of people SAVED by the correct medicine?

Oh, right, you don't consider the lives saved.

Brilliant.

Seriously, the rest of the posters on your side of this argument should ask Topix to ban your account.
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7369 May 4, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
You believe that immunization from common viral diseases is an illusion.
Explain why the number of polio cases in the US went down after vaccination.
Explain why we don't see any small pox cases.
Why don't we see measels, mumps, whooping cough, etc a the rates we had them pre-vaccination?
The problem with your argument is that it is OBVIOUSLY false.
The problem with your actions is that they are OBVIOUSLY sociopathic.
You clearly don't care about the lives of your children or the children of other people in our society.
<quoted text>
If you think Ben Franklin was talking about medicine in that quote, you are out of your [email protected] mind.
We do not live in a society that tolerates people like you killing citizens. If you were to pick up a gun and start shooting into a crowd, you would find out very quickly where your liberty ends.
The fact that you would put your life and the lives of EVERYONE ELSE at risk for LITERALLY NO GAIN to yourself OR society just means that you are exactly the sort of person who has no right to avail yourself of the freedoms America provides.
You're a terrorist.
You are a real piece of work.Calling this person a terrorist is insanity at it's finest.
But it really looks as if this is where this country is going.If you do not go along with the agenda(in other words what creates profits and power for the top dogs ) you will be put on a terror list, as our returning vets have been or called crazy or threatened.
You are indeed a piece of work.Are you part of this new crime sydicate?
Actually one of the founding fathers wanted to put medical on the freedom list because he talked about this very thing you are displaying right now. Shame on you.It appears you would prefer the USSA.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#7370 May 4, 2013
Free America wrote:
http://www.politicolnews.com/m onsanto-nestle-patent-human-br east-milk/
It could be said that the government has given Monsanto full ownership rights to human Breast Milk. Something about this article seemed to fit with the discussion here.
This is a Right-Wing Conservative Propaganda Website.
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7371 May 4, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
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This is a Right-Wing Conservative Propaganda Website.
Oh My God.So according to you it is worthless information?

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7372 May 4, 2013
Hey wrote:
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You are a real piece of work.Calling this person a terrorist is insanity at it's finest.
For political (and likely fundamentalist religious) reasons he wants to threaten the lives of Americans.

Sounds like a terrorist to me.
It appears you would prefer the USSA.
The US Skiing and Snowboarding Association? No thanks. I don't enjoy winter sports. Too cold.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7373 May 4, 2013
Hey wrote:
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Oh My God.So according to you it is worthless information?
Not "so", just "and".

Though, given that there really aren't any right wing conservative websites that give any worthwhile information, a pretty good argument for "so" could be made.

Let me ask you something, if the right wingers are so anti-Monsanto, why was it Republican Roy Blunt that snuck through the Monsanto Protection Act?
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7374 May 4, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Not "so", just "and".
Though, given that there really aren't any right wing conservative websites that give any worthwhile information, a pretty good argument for "so" could be made.
Let me ask you something, if the right wingers are so anti-Monsanto, why was it Republican Roy Blunt that snuck through the Monsanto Protection Act?
I belong to no party.
When I talked about organic I was speaking food,although high quality herbal remidies are organic
There is a site Source Watch that lays out the history of medicine and the players and how alternative medicine was ran out on the rail.
In fact this was pretty eye opening.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/American...
When you have all the cash and all these government agencys to do your bidding you can do whatever you damn well want.And they did.
It wasn't about the value of modern meds it was the power behind it and it's getting worse.
When I hear your comments it sounds as though it comes right out of this cartel.
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7375 May 4, 2013
Hey wrote:
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I belong to no party.
When I talked about organic I was speaking food,although high quality herbal remidies are organic
There is a site Source Watch that lays out the history of medicine and the players and how alternative medicine was ran out on the rail.
In fact this was pretty eye opening.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/American...
When you have all the cash and all these government agencys to do your bidding you can do whatever you damn well want.And they did.
It wasn't about the value of modern meds it was the power behind it and it's getting worse.
When I hear your comments it sounds as though it comes right out of this cartel.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/American...

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7376 May 4, 2013
Hey wrote:
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I belong to no party.
When I talked about organic I was speaking food,although high quality herbal remidies are organic
Jackass, herbal "remedies" are _CHEMICALS_.
The only difference is that there is no monitoring for purity or potency.

One tablet of "witch hazel" may contain 10x as much active ingredient as the next one. No accountability. No oversight. No prescription.

Go out into the woods and start eating random berries. See what happens.
There is a site Source Watch that lays out the history of medicine and the players and how alternative medicine was ran out on the rail.
In fact this was pretty eye opening.
Alternative medicine is, by definition, bullsh1t.

If it worked, it would not be "alternative". IT would be NORMAL.

Aspirin was derived from the bark of a tree. Now aspirin is MEDICINE.

Reiki (aka Touch Therapy) involves the manipulation of non-existent energy spheres. It does nothing. Therefore it remains "alternative".
When you have all the cash and all these government agencys to do your bidding you can do whatever you damn well want.And they did.
You have NO IDEA what you are talking about.

Alternative Medicine is the one using cash to get the Government to do their bidding.

If Alt Med had 1/100th the regulation that the FDA puts on real medicine, it would be gone.

Instead, thanks to some clever laws they paid to get passed, they don't need to prove that they are effective or even safe.
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7377 May 4, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
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This is a Right-Wing Conservative Propaganda Website.
You without a doubt are one of the biggest fools I have ever come across.
So you believe Monsanto,etc should own the patent on breast milk and your friggen stem cells.And you claim you're for the average Joe.
You don't know your a-- from a hole in the ground.How much you miss in your hate.
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7378 May 4, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Jackass, herbal "remedies" are _CHEMICALS_.
The only difference is that there is no monitoring for purity or potency.
One tablet of "witch hazel" may contain 10x as much active ingredient as the next one. No accountability. No oversight. No prescription.
Go out into the woods and start eating random berries. See what happens.
<quoted text>
Alternative medicine is, by definition, bullsh1t.
If it worked, it would not be "alternative". IT would be NORMAL.
Aspirin was derived from the bark of a tree. Now aspirin is MEDICINE.
Reiki (aka Touch Therapy) involves the manipulation of non-existent energy spheres. It does nothing. Therefore it remains "alternative".
<quoted text>
You have NO IDEA what you are talking about.
Alternative Medicine is the one using cash to get the Government to do their bidding.
If Alt Med had 1/100th the regulation that the FDA puts on real medicine, it would be gone.
Instead, thanks to some clever laws they paid to get passed, they don't need to prove that they are effective or even safe.
Your full of it.
I do not want to take a friggin drug that ruptures tendons, gives heart attacks,is contaminated with Aids( that Bayer drug they knew was bad),I don't want these drugs and I don't use them.
Herbal medicine has never created people who go on rampages and kill themselves and others like the wonder psych meds have.
One third of drugs are derived from plants.Why was Big Pharma up in the hills talking to the folks about folk medicine.Why does Big Pharma want the FDA to pull a B vitamine off the market so they can patent it? why was Big Pharma using these government agencies on the Source Watch artical?You didn't read it did you.
If someone was getting hung it was alternarive medicine.
The better grades of herbal medicine are at the amouts stated.
The Commission E in Germany has researched these remedies as people here.
Herbal remedies were normal for thousands of years if you read what I just put up you can see how they were screwed by the big money folks who wanted their compitition destroyed,and they went about doing so.
The history of this process is right there on Source Watch.
needs

Abingdon, VA

#7379 May 4, 2013
Should the state regulate the amount of food you eat so you would not be overweight.People die everyday from complication of being overweight If people are so stupid that they have to ask that stupid question about immunizations you have defiantly have had to many shots already
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7380 May 4, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Not "so", just "and".
Though, given that there really aren't any right wing conservative websites that give any worthwhile information, a pretty good argument for "so" could be made.
Let me ask you something, if the right wingers are so anti-Monsanto, why was it Republican Roy Blunt that snuck through the Monsanto Protection Act?
And how come Obumba brought all the Monsanto cronies into the FDA,USDA etc.Oh sure he is going to lable GMOs cause people have the right to know.Yes like they have a right to an attorney, a right to a fair trial etc,etc.America is dead.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7381 May 4, 2013
Hey wrote:
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Your full of it.
I do not want to take a friggin drug that ruptures tendons, gives heart attacks,is contaminated with Aids( that Bayer drug they knew was bad),I don't want these drugs and I don't use them.
Herbal medicine has never created people who go on rampages and kill themselves and others like the wonder psych meds have.
One third of drugs are derived from plants.Why was Big Pharma up in the hills talking to the folks about folk medicine.Why does Big Pharma want the FDA to pull a B vitamine off the market so they can patent it? why was Big Pharma using these government agencies on the Source Watch artical?You didn't read it did you.
If someone was getting hung it was alternarive medicine.
The better grades of herbal medicine are at the amouts stated.
The Commission E in Germany has researched these remedies as people here.
Herbal remedies were normal for thousands of years if you read what I just put up you can see how they were screwed by the big money folks who wanted their compitition destroyed,and they went about doing so.
The history of this process is right there on Source Watch.
I find your ignorance is only outpaced by your paranoia.
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7382 May 4, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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I find your ignorance is only outpaced by your paranoia.
So you think your so bright you should have the right to make choices for everyone else?
How many drugs are you on? Have you read Source Watch to see how the drug based BIg Boys set out to destroy all other forms of healing.
Viagra-hearing loss
Actane-inflamatory bowel disease
Paxil-Birth defects
Avandia-Heart problems(company knew)
Rosenex-Furmer fractures
Zocore-Kidney failure
Embril-Lymphoma
Orencia-Serious side effects-cancers
Ambify-Strokes
Livaquen-Ruptured tendons
Yaz-Strokes,pulmonary embolism,heart attack etc
Fixident-Copper deficency
etc
etc
etc
Who is stupid?

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7383 May 4, 2013
needs wrote:
Should the state regulate the amount of food you eat so you would not be overweight.People die everyday from complication of being overweight If people are so stupid that they have to ask that stupid question about immunizations you have defiantly have had to many shots already
If, when you ate too much, it killed random OTHER people then YES the state should regulate how much you can eat.

You aren't getting immunized to protect you. You are getting immunized to protect _EVERYONE ELSE_.
DMB

United States

#7384 May 4, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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You need to recognize the difference between information from rational vs irrational sources.
Do you know the difference between different types of mercury?
Did you know that despite not being a health threat mercury was removed from vaccines and the alleged negatives effects didn't change even without it?
Did you know that both hydrogen and oxygen are explosive and yet they are the only two components in water -- clearly, the illuminati is trying to make people blow up! The information is out there!
Well, Mr. Bill Nye.... FYI it's not the illuminati, but Aliens!.!.!.!.!
Of course single elements on the periodic table could be detemental... But it's the combinations of elements and dumb asses like you that would follow that person jumping off the bridge if the Goverment told you to...

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7385 May 4, 2013
Hey wrote:
Who is stupid?
You are.

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