Is this the message we're sending our kids?

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#1 Oct 16, 2013
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/the-five/articl...

seriously? this girl should be rewarded not punished
in the know

Greeneville, TN

#2 Oct 16, 2013
devines wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/ the-five/article/2013/10/15/hs -honor-student-punished-being- designated-driver
seriously? this girl should be rewarded not punished
yes this is the message we are sending. we send it in the form of empowerment to the idiots we call "officials". we stop policing ourselves and give that authority to idiots too lazy to do actual work and too narrow minded to think outside the proverbial box. we allow them to pen rediculouse constrains on our liberty and way of life because we too are to damn lazy to do"the right thing" ourselves. so we delegate that responsibility to anyone but ourselves. so, yes, this is the message we send our kids. keep you head down and only be concerned with yourself. never put yourself out there for any reason other than self preservation. take no action and therefore have no responsibility.
good mother

Charlotte, NC

#4 Oct 16, 2013
devines wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/ the-five/article/2013/10/15/hs -honor-student-punished-being- designated-driver
seriously? this girl should be rewarded not punished
Fox News has a habit of creating one-sided news that is designed to get people riled up, especially those people like yourself who are easily manipulated and lacking in the critical thinking department.

Mission accomplished.

Now this might sound like an odd question, but are you an idiot or something? The reason I ask is because why in the world do you think this girl should be rewarded, period?

Maybe you missed the part of this story where this innocent honor student was pushing her way through a crowd of underage drunk teenagers?

Suppose it was one of your kids who was passed out drunk in that house, and this honor student walks thru looking for her friend and she does nothing about the situation?

Are you really buying this "designated driver" bs?

If you are a teenager and you are too drunk to drive, who do you think you would call for a ride home? Your mom and dad? Or how about one of your classmates, and have her keep all this a secret?

A 17-year-old has no business being a designated driver for anyone who is underage, and if her parents knew about this whole "designated driver" plan then they should be thrown in jail.
Common Sense

Greeneville, TN

#5 Oct 16, 2013
I saw this new piece on the Today Show this morning and none of the above was ever mentioned, in fact, all 4 newscasters agreed that this teen was punished wrongfully. I agree this was uncalled for to punish her through school when this never even took place on school grounds.

Instead of being so critical of this girl like you're stating, you're failing to see the bigger picture. You weren't there, you don't know. However, the report I saw was accurate, and I agree, she shouldn't have ever been punished for it through school. That could have been left for the parents to do as they wish, js
better than you

Greeneville, TN

#6 Oct 16, 2013
this girl was treated like she got behind the wheel drunk, and she wasn't, ridiculous
in the know

Greeneville, TN

#7 Oct 17, 2013
good mother wrote:
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Fox News has a habit of creating one-sided news that is designed to get people riled up, especially those people like yourself who are easily manipulated and lacking in the critical thinking department.
Mission accomplished.
Now this might sound like an odd question, but are you an idiot or something? The reason I ask is because why in the world do you think this girl should be rewarded, period?
Maybe you missed the part of this story where this innocent honor student was pushing her way through a crowd of underage drunk teenagers?
Suppose it was one of your kids who was passed out drunk in that house, and this honor student walks thru looking for her friend and she does nothing about the situation?
Are you really buying this "designated driver" bs?
If you are a teenager and you are too drunk to drive, who do you think you would call for a ride home? Your mom and dad? Or how about one of your classmates, and have her keep all this a secret?
A 17-year-old has no business being a designated driver for anyone who is underage, and if her parents knew about this whole "designated driver" plan then they should be thrown in jail.
you are the idiot here and you should change your name to "opressive mother". there is so much wrong with your comments i am unwilling to devote the time to explaining it to you. chances are you are too stupid and narrow minded to understand anyway. i feel sorry for your children.
good mother

Decatur, GA

#8 Oct 17, 2013
Common Sense wrote:
I saw this new piece on the Today Show this morning and none of the above was ever mentioned, in fact, all 4 newscasters agreed that this teen was punished wrongfully. I agree this was uncalled for to punish her through school when this never even took place on school grounds.
Instead of being so critical of this girl like you're stating, you're failing to see the bigger picture. You weren't there, you don't know. However, the report I saw was accurate, and I agree, she shouldn't have ever been punished for it through school. That could have been left for the parents to do as they wish, js
Underage drinking is illegal everywhere in the United States.

This supposed "honor student" admittedly went to a house where she knew teenagers were getting loaded without adult supervision, and she did nothing about the situation. This girl went there, saw what was going on and did nothing, and that speaks volumes about what kind of character this "honor student" has.

The only reason that the drunk underage friend called this honor student and asked her to be a designated driver was so that the drunk underage friend's parents wouldn't find out about her being drunk.

If you, or anyone else, agree to be a "designated driver" for a minor that you know is drunk, then you are committing a crime.

The reason kids are able to abuse alcohol in the first place is because of people like you idiots who think it is cute and normal and blow it off as young people having a good time.

If my parents had known that I went to a house where children were consuming alcohol, they would have killed me. And it wouldn't have made any difference whatsoever what cute story I told them, that I was there to be a "designated driver" or whatever sensationalized BS that this girl is telling the media in order to get herself out of trouble.
good mother

Groveland, FL

#9 Oct 17, 2013
You guys sound exactly like a bunch of pill popping junkies the way you are rationalizing and excusing away this girl's actions.
Cat Turd

Knoxville, TN

#11 Oct 17, 2013
The government supplies the condoms.

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#12 Oct 17, 2013
good mother wrote:
You guys sound exactly like a bunch of pill popping junkies the way you are rationalizing and excusing away this girl's actions.
You need to read the article dumbass.
David

Murfreesboro, TN

#13 Oct 17, 2013
Cat Turd wrote:
The government supplies the condoms.
Where do I get these free government condoms, I need some.
good mother

Gainesville, FL

#14 Oct 17, 2013
If this honor student was such a goody goody person, why didn't she get an adult involved or call the police? That's exactly what a responsible person should have done.

If you're a minor and you've drinking to the point that you can't walk anymore, you better not call me to be your designated driver.

Because if I show up at a house where there are a bunch of minors getting loaded and passing out everywhere, guess what? I call the police, they all go to jail and whoever gave them the booze goes to jail.

That's what you are supposed to do when you seem minors getting drunk, you stop it.

The last thing I am going to do is be a designated driver for a bunch of drunk children, drive them all home and pretend like nothing happened.

This "designated driver" excuse is a load of crap, and you people refuse to see that a teenager is making up some stupid story to get out of trouble.

But I shouldn't expect much out of Greeneville, where most people are drunks or junkies.
flash

Greeneville, TN

#15 Oct 17, 2013
good mother wrote:
If this honor student was such a goody goody person, why didn't she get an adult involved or call the police? That's exactly what a responsible person should have done.
If you're a minor and you've drinking to the point that you can't walk anymore, you better not call me to be your designated driver.
Because if I show up at a house where there are a bunch of minors getting loaded and passing out everywhere, guess what? I call the police, they all go to jail and whoever gave them the booze goes to jail.
That's what you are supposed to do when you seem minors getting drunk, you stop it.
The last thing I am going to do is be a designated driver for a bunch of drunk children, drive them all home and pretend like nothing happened.
This "designated driver" excuse is a load of crap, and you people refuse to see that a teenager is making up some stupid story to get out of trouble.
But I shouldn't expect much out of Greeneville, where most people are drunks or junkies.
when you were a teenager you probably did run and tell on everyone all the time but most do not. you neednt worry, noone will call you for help of any kind including your own children. its a shame because kids need someone "safe" to call instead of some holier than thou tattle tale whose primary objective is to see to it everyone is punished rather than help them through, and see why, their actions were a mistake. the, not so called but actual, honor student was concerned for her friend, rather that excited at the prospect of the friend being in trouble, and took the, honorable, course of action. she helped her friend survive their mistake. you on the other hand would more likely try to see to it the friend was severely damaged by the error. that way you could feel better about you and convince your, selfish, sorry, deranged, mentally ill, self that you are somehow superior. if fact you are damaged and an example of what is wrong with society and people. as i said before, i feel sorry for your children!!
party haus

Saint Louis, MO

#16 Oct 17, 2013
flash wrote:
<quoted text>when you were a teenager you probably did run and tell on everyone all the time but most do not. you neednt worry, noone will call you for help of any kind including your own children. its a shame because kids need someone "safe" to call instead of some holier than thou tattle tale whose primary objective is to see to it everyone is punished rather than help them through, and see why, their actions were a mistake. the, not so called but actual, honor student was concerned for her friend, rather that excited at the prospect of the friend being in trouble, and took the, honorable, course of action. she helped her friend survive their mistake. you on the other hand would more likely try to see to it the friend was severely damaged by the error. that way you could feel better about you and convince your, selfish, sorry, deranged, mentally ill, self that you are somehow superior. if fact you are damaged and an example of what is wrong with society and people. as i said before, i feel sorry for your children!!
I bet you're the parent who has the house where all the kids can come to get drunk and high. Do you supply the party goods or is it BYOB? I bet you even get drunk and high with them...just one of the crew, huh? I mean, hell, why be a responsible adult when you can be the coolest parent there is! Party hardy!
Totally missing the point

Greeneville, TN

#17 Oct 17, 2013
I think some here are missing the point, no one ever said what was going on was right, it was simply stated the girl got in trouble for helping the ones who were drinking by taking them home. She was sober, which means she didn't participate in the "partying".

I mean c'mon people, condemn her if she handed them the keys to their cars and let them go it alone, but lets not beat on her for doing the right thing and saving what could have been a fatal experience for the kids who were drinking.

The parents that allowed the under age drinking - liable and irresponsible, agreed.

The teen who stayed sober to take care of the ones who were drunk to enable them a ride safely home - Comendable, regardless of how it started

just saying imo

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#18 Oct 17, 2013
if people would read the story it states the girl wasn't even attending the party, she went there to search her friend out to take her home bcuz her FRIEND had been drinking. The cops also showed up to break the party up and handed out citations, and CLEARED the teen showing no alcohol consumption.

I suspect that some of these "good mom" posts are from concerned mothers, however being close minded will be the reason your children don't come to you for serious teen issues when they're in need of an adult. it is what it is these days, right or wrong.
flash

Greeneville, TN

#19 Oct 18, 2013
party haus wrote:
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I bet you're the parent who has the house where all the kids can come to get drunk and high. Do you supply the party goods or is it BYOB? I bet you even get drunk and high with them...just one of the crew, huh? I mean, hell, why be a responsible adult when you can be the coolest parent there is! Party hardy!
you are the same kind of idiot as "good mother". i dont condone underage drinking. in fact drinkingin general isnt a good idea in my opinion. i do however, know that people, especially young ones, do drink and do make mistes. my reaction to that isnt to run and see how much more damage i can cause to the already harmed existance of another person. instead, helping them get through the mistake with minimal damage while helping them see that their action was a mistake is more my style. there is plenty of opertunities around for people's lives to be ruined or damaged. i see no need to add to those opertunities. if i happened upon an underage drinking party my reaction would be to contact parents not police. of course if the parent were like you and "good mother" every effort would be made by you to ruin your child's life. responsible parents, however, would help their child through the ordeal and use the opertunity to teach the child to be better, smarted, and stronger. in conclusion - go screw yourself!!
Totally missing the point

Greeneville, TN

#21 Oct 18, 2013
party haus wrote:
You want to be your children's buddy instead of a parent. That's the easy thing to do. I bet you have some really f*cked up kids.
again, clueless and missing the point..

instead of focusing on what EVERYONE in this story was doing, how about focusing on the 17 yo who was sober..

and i can almost bet and win that you have no kids at all, hope it stays that way, you'd suck

“You gotta stand for something”

Since: Sep 13

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#22 Oct 18, 2013
I think as a society she should be comended for trying to keep her friend safe, and the zero tolerance rule is going a little to far in this case.
However, as a mother of a 17 year old girl, who is a senior,and who is also a TN scholar, I would say "What the he!! are you thinkin'?" We don't throw our future away for friends or boys. I'm thinkin' if my daughter was put into this girls shoes, she better tell me what's goin' on so I can go pick up the friend.

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#23 Oct 18, 2013
From Jenny xoxo wrote:
I think as a society she should be comended for trying to keep her friend safe, and the zero tolerance rule is going a little to far in this case.
However, as a mother of a 17 year old girl, who is a senior,and who is also a TN scholar, I would say "What the he!! are you thinkin'?" We don't throw our future away for friends or boys. I'm thinkin' if my daughter was put into this girls shoes, she better tell me what's goin' on so I can go pick up the friend.
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