Documentary on The Lillelid Murders

Since: Jan 13

Tucker, GA

#21 Apr 17, 2013
Mr Christian wrote:
Kentucky people are weird.
ouch! mr christian. Actually i moved to ky in 2000,so only a little weirdness has rubbed off on me. I should be totally insane in about 25 years. Lol. I read somewhere that ky has the highest percentage of disability checks due to mental disorders.

Since: Jan 13

Tucker, GA

#22 Apr 17, 2013
MystDefy wrote:
And there was the boy who stabbed his sister multiple, multiple times.
yes i remember, michael myers? No wrong person.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#23 Apr 17, 2013
MystDefy wrote:
And there was the boy who stabbed his sister multiple, multiple times.
Another sad, horrifying story....

Since: Dec 12

Boiling Springs, SC

#24 Apr 17, 2013
Pretend 2 B Normal wrote:
I think I remember seeing a write up in the paper about the documentary when it was made but I'm surprised this isn't more widely known. It was fairly well put together. It really didn't try to sway you one way or another as to the guilt or innocence of any of them. Maybe slightly towards Natasha Cornett but it didn't change my opinion at all. I really wish it would have gotten more into the forensics side of the investigation. I would have liked to see how they determined who the shooter was and what evidence they had. Still a very good documentary of one of the darkest days in Greene County history.
I can recall I handful of bad moments in the county since I moved here (the tornadoes, the murder/suicide involving the teenage girl, these murders).
Seems like forensics wasn't really an issue to determine the shooter given the confessions of the shooter & his co-defendants. I'm pretty sure another documentary, MAYBE on HBO or A&E, referrenced gun powder residue tests being done. I was rather shocked that autopsy photos and/or explicit crime scene pics were shown without warning in the film. I may have missed the warning if there was one as I viewed it on my phone which doesn't always load everything.

Since: Dec 12

Boiling Springs, SC

#25 Apr 17, 2013
MystDefy wrote:
And there was the boy who stabbed his sister multiple, multiple times.
I think you mean the boy named Donnie Joe Hensley. There have been threads on here about him. That was yet another mixed up kid from a highly dysfunctional background who committed a heinous crime & is serving life, I think. All of these cases usually have screwed up kids from screwed up background and drugs added into the mix. So many lives wasted & lost.:(
wat a joke

Greeneville, TN

#26 Apr 17, 2013
I wasin prison with Tasha cornet evil bitch bragged about the murders and said she was satins daughter she should have got put to death

Since: Jan 13

Tucker, GA

#27 Apr 17, 2013
wat a joke wrote:
I wasin prison with Tasha cornet evil bitch bragged about the murders and said she was satins daughter she should have got put to death
so which was tasha involved in?
please

Greeneville, TN

#28 Apr 17, 2013
Tasha was one of the Lillelid murderers. I always wondered if she and David Leonard had a connection.
question

Midway, TN

#29 Apr 17, 2013
please wrote:
Tasha was one of the Lillelid murderers. I always wondered if she and David Leonard had a connection.
Didn't Leonard represent Karen Howell?
please

Greeneville, TN

#30 Apr 17, 2013
Ah,you are correct! Karen was the quiet one wasn't she? Natasa was the one more 'gothy'. Sorry, my screw up.
denied 2013

Midway, TN

#31 Apr 17, 2013
Roman

Chatsworth, CA

#32 Apr 17, 2013
Pretend 2 B Normal wrote:
I really wish it would have gotten more into the forensics side of the investigation. I would have liked to see how they determined who the shooter was and what evidence they had..
They determined that by powder residue on clothing. I think the term is "primary" residue, or something to that effect. Jason Bryant was the only one with that kind of powder residue on him. The others who had powder on them only had secondary residue, which you get from just being in the vicinity of gunfire.

Bryant also had a history of violent behavior that the others didn't. He had been making all sorts of random murder threats in the days leading up to the incident, threatening to "kill" and "stab" people at the Colley Motel and up at 40 Acre Field. He was also on probation at the time, so he had a strong motive there.

I have no doubt that Bryant was the sole shooter and that none of these killing would have happened had he not been there. I've spoken to people who knew Crystal, Dean and Karen. All are in agreement that these three were not murderous types. I'm told (but haven't been able to verify yet) that even members of Vidar Lillelid's family exonerated Crystal from blame.

Since: Dec 12

United States

#33 Apr 17, 2013
Roman wrote:
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They determined that by powder residue on clothing. I think the term is "primary" residue, or something to that effect. Jason Bryant was the only one with that kind of powder residue on him. The others who had powder on them only had secondary residue, which you get from just being in the vicinity of gunfire.
Bryant also had a history of violent behavior that the others didn't. He had been making all sorts of random murder threats in the days leading up to the incident, threatening to "kill" and "stab" people at the Colley Motel and up at 40 Acre Field. He was also on probation at the time, so he had a strong motive there.
I have no doubt that Bryant was the sole shooter and that none of these killing would have happened had he not been there. I've spoken to people who knew Crystal, Dean and Karen. All are in agreement that these three were not murderous types. I'm told (but haven't been able to verify yet) that even members of Vidar Lillelid's family exonerated Crystal from blame.
That is the gist of what I remembered about the gun powder residue & it seems like the co-defendant's gave statements to that effect. I actually met someone who knew Natasha quite well & said she was WEIRD in school. I think all of them had very troubled home lives except maybe Dean, no excuse for their actions but it didn't help in them learning to become model citizens nor did genetic defects help them to be better decision makers. I mean REALLY, look at what those kids came from. Crystal supposedly left home because her mom's new boyfriend/husband was sexually abusing her & her mother didn't protect her. All of them seemed to be outcasts of sorts who needed to fit in with other outcasts.

There was another YouTube video about a "Prison Paws Project" which showed Karen doing constructive things in prison. She is/was such a pretty girl, what a shame the better kids got mixed up with Natasha & Jason. Those 2 certainly deserved heinous punishments! Such a horrible waste of life not to mention the horror endured by the victims.....
Roman

Chatsworth, CA

#34 Apr 17, 2013
Nita Mann wrote:
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That is the gist of what I remembered about the gun powder residue & it seems like the co-defendant's gave statements to that effect. I actually met someone who knew Natasha quite well & said she was WEIRD in school. I think all of them had very troubled home lives except maybe Dean, no excuse for their actions but it didn't help in them learning to become model citizens nor did genetic defects help them to be better decision makers. I mean REALLY, look at what those kids came from. Crystal supposedly left home because her mom's new boyfriend/husband was sexually abusing her & her mother didn't protect her. All of them seemed to be outcasts of sorts who needed to fit in with other outcasts.
There was another YouTube video about a "Prison Paws Project" which showed Karen doing constructive things in prison. She is/was such a pretty girl, what a shame the better kids got mixed up with Natasha & Jason. Those 2 certainly deserved heinous punishments! Such a horrible waste of life not to mention the horror endured by the victims.....
The funny thing about Karen Howell is that she was known as a quiet, troubled girl who tended to withdraw whenever confronted with emotional distress. She didn't have the best coping skills (nor did Crystal or Dean). So when the murders happened she pretty much did what she always did- withdraw. Only this time it cost her life without the possibility of parole.

I worked with troubled teens for 12 years. This wasn't the type of young person anyone should expect to know what to do when shooting, screaming, bodies and blood are everywhere. If she doesn't cope well with the basic problems of everyday life, how can anyone expect her to cope with that? She did what most troubled teens do. She shut down.

I can't find it in me to call her a "murderer". It just wasn't in her. The people I've spoken to who knew her- friends and "enemies"- all concur on that point.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#35 Apr 17, 2013
Roman wrote:
<quoted text>The funny thing about Karen Howell is that she was known as a quiet, troubled girl who tended to withdraw whenever confronted with emotional distress. She didn't have the best coping skills (nor did Crystal or Dean). So when the murders happened she pretty much did what she always did- withdraw. Only this time it cost her life without the possibility of parole.

I worked with troubled teens for 12 years. This wasn't the type of young person anyone should expect to know what to do when shooting, screaming, bodies and blood are everywhere. If she doesn't cope well with the basic problems of everyday life, how can anyone expect her to cope with that? She did what most troubled teens do. She shut down.

I can't find it in me to call her a "murderer". It just wasn't in her. The people I've spoken to who knew her- friends and "enemies"- all concur on that point.
I didn't know her... Yet, my heart bleeds for them all... Perhaps not some of those kids but Karen, yes. The Lillelid family, yes. Sad... lives forever gone, lost...

Since: Apr 13

Chatsworth, CA

#36 Apr 18, 2013
Se7en187 wrote:
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I didn't know her... Yet, my heart bleeds for them all... Perhaps not some of those kids but Karen, yes. The Lillelid family, yes. Sad... lives forever gone, lost...
Just pm'd you

Since: Dec 12

United States

#37 Apr 18, 2013
Roman wrote:
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The funny thing about Karen Howell is that she was known as a quiet, troubled girl who tended to withdraw whenever confronted with emotional distress. She didn't have the best coping skills (nor did Crystal or Dean). So when the murders happened she pretty much did what she always did- withdraw. Only this time it cost her life without the possibility of parole.
I worked with troubled teens for 12 years. This wasn't the type of young person anyone should expect to know what to do when shooting, screaming, bodies and blood are everywhere. If she doesn't cope well with the basic problems of everyday life, how can anyone expect her to cope with that? She did what most troubled teens do. She shut down.
I can't find it in me to call her a "murderer". It just wasn't in her. The people I've spoken to who knew her- friends and "enemies"- all concur on that point.
I wanted all of them executed at the time & would have volunteered to do it! I did develop a little sympathy for the less culpable ones who got mixed up with Jason & Natasha. Karen seemed like a sweet girl who was a lost soul & was easy to fall into Natasha's manipulation. But, then again, there was absolutely NO suggestion by anyone involved that any of them even passively suggested to leave the family unharmed. Despite their troubled backgrounds & youth, they were certainly old enough to know better than to carry out such cruel, heinous and illegal acts!!!!!

The other films & documentary on this bunch delved into their backgrounds in different ways. Those films also left little doubt that "The Six" were destined for prison time based on their lack of parental influence & the related fall out of being "wired wrong" in accordance with societal norms. Sad sad sad.....

Since: Apr 13

Chatsworth, CA

#38 Apr 18, 2013
Nita Mann wrote:
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I wanted all of them executed at the time & would have volunteered to do it! I did develop a little sympathy for the less culpable ones who got mixed up with Jason & Natasha. Karen seemed like a sweet girl who was a lost soul & was easy to fall into Natasha's manipulation. But, then again, there was absolutely NO suggestion by anyone involved that any of them even passively suggested to leave the family unharmed.
I'm glad you wrote this because actually, there WAS.:-) You just haven't heard about it because the trash TV show documentaries weren't interested in anything but the tabloid angle. Thankfully, there is a documentary being made as we speak (almost done) that addresses all of this. It is indeed unfortunate that all the documentaries done thus far haven't addressed this. But again, keep in mind that they have been agenda-driven pieces thus far. The trash TV "City Confidential" and "Deadly Women" episodes had their tabloid angle they were pursuing (SATANIC TEENS SLAUGHTER INNOCENT JEHOVAH'S WITNESS FAMILY IN A RITUAL ORGY OF MURDER AND BLOODLETTING! LAUGHING AS THEY DID IT!*insert evil laughter here*). "Six" was done by a forensic psychologist with a "violent teens" angle. Nobody has just dealt with WHAT HAPPENED minus all the media hysteria that marred the coverage and "satanic panic" that resulted in all sorts of crazy rumors and distortions of the facts.

Strange justice

Sarasota, FL

#39 Apr 18, 2013
in Greene Co., huh? They let some people who are monsters do whatever they want. Other folks, they'd crucify you for trying to defend yourself.
Why is that?
honeydo

Greeneville, TN

#40 Apr 18, 2013
The murderers should have been lined up, shot and treated like the Lillilid Family was, then put tires on top of them and set them on fire. You may think I am awful, but the Bible says an eye for an eye.

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